Arkas

[Turk Sucker]

I got an infraction for derailing a thread,so I'll just start a new one here.If this is not the right place,I am sure one of your lovely moderators can fix it...

So here we go:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire
Jesus is omnipresent:
Lu:12:6: Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?
Lu:12:7: But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.

If he knows where all the sparrows and hairs are, you can be sure that He knows everything you do. How else would He know how to judge you and send you to Hell?

Well,I do have a question here.It can't be true that God is All-seeing,omnipresent and all-powerfull.In fact,the two first suggest that the third one is impossible.

I am certain that this will raise some eyebrows,so here I go with some examples:

-If god is omnipresent,He can't hide.how could he?He's everywhere!

-He also can't go for a walk.Where would he go?He's already everywhere.

Of course,that excludes many other activities that everyday men(and women) can do,but He can't. He can't play hide and seek(unless he chases the other guys,but that's a little unfair;He can always see them),he can't take his cat for a walk etc...

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Arkas

I got an infraction for derailing a thread,so I'll just start a new one here.If this is not the right place,I am sure one of your lovely moderators can fix it...

So here we go:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezekiel Bathfire
Jesus is omnipresent:
Lu:12:6: Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?
Lu:12:7: But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.

If he knows where all the sparrows and hairs are, you can be sure that He knows everything you do. How else would He know how to judge you and send you to Hell?

Well,I do have a question here.It can't be true that God is All-seeing,omnipresent and all-powerfull.In fact,the two first suggest that the third one is impossible.

I am certain that this will raise some eyebrows,so here I go with some examples:

-If god is omnipresent,He can't hide.how could he?He's everywhere!

-He also can't go for a walk.Where would he go?He's already everywhere.

Of course,that excludes many other activities that everyday men(and women) can do,but He can't. He can't play hide and seek(unless he chases the other guys,but that's a little unfair;He can always see them),he can't take his cat for a walk etc...

OK, admit it, it did make me raise my eyebrows - I couldn't believe anyone was that much of an idiot. You are a retard... you can't concentrate on anything for longer than 20 seconds.

God chooses to be invisible, He does not reveal Himself just like that!

Look, just go an switch your television on (you do have televisions in Greece don't you? ...and electricity to make them work?) Now look at the television screen. Do you see? You can see the people on the screen, but they can't see you. (I suppose there's no reason they should want to look at you anyway - you're probably more homely than anything else.)

OK, is that simple enough for you?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Arkas

Your'e a queer, aren't you.

And you misspelled Arkansas.

[Turk Sucker]

Re: Arkas

I will not comment on your insults regarding my personal taste and my IQ(I must say,I do love "Queer" by Garbage,Shirley Manson is a hottie!)

Ok,so he may become invinsible,but that's cheating in most hide and seek games. You have yet to explain the second part.The God isn't all powerful if he can't take a walk,but he can't take a walk if he's everywhere,where would he go?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Arkas

God most certainly can go for a walk:

Genesis 3:8: And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

How can God walk in the garden when He is omnipresent? That is for Him to know. I don't have any personal experience being omnipresent, and neither do you.

[Turk Sucker]

Re: Arkas

How can God walk in the garden when He is omnipresent? That is for Him to know. I don't have any personal experience being omnipresent, and neither do you.

Now,if a guy is in two spots,he can't move from one spot to another,that's simple physics.Besides,God already knew what Adam and Eve were up to(currently listening-"Adam's Song"-Blink 182),so he wouldn't need to take a walk,it's symbolic;he was teasng them.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Arkas

Now,if a guy is in two spots,he can't move from one spot to another,that's simple physics.

Look at it this way:
God is miles up in the sky in Heaven - He is everywhere and knows and sees all.
God comes halfway down to earth, He is everywhere and still knows and sees all.
He takes a walk in the Garden - He is everywhere and still knows and sees all.

You cannot believe that His position in the Universe would prevent Him from being everywhere!

Besides,God already knew what Adam and Eve were up to(currently listening-"Adam's Song"-Blink 182),so he wouldn't need to take a walk,

Are you denying that God can walk in a garden if He wants? Now that is ridiculous - He can do anything He wants.

it's symbolic;he was teasng them.

No, God said that happened, and why would He lie?

[Turk Sucker]

Re: Arkas

Look at it this way:
God is miles up in the sky in Heaven - He is everywhere and knows and sees all.
God comes halfway down to earth, He is everywhere and still knows and sees all.
He takes a walk in the Garden - He is everywhere and still knows and sees all.

But you see,he can't.If God is everywhere,how can he move from one place to another?He was on both places before and he's in both places afterwards.Either you are a bit slow or you wish to evade my question.

Just say it:"I don't want to answer.I don't know.Screw you dammit!"

[Jake the Greek]

Re: Arkas

I have a question!!!!
Man has a lot to learn about Jesus.
But what Jesus has to learn from man? And don't you dare tell me that he has no questions!!!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Arkas

I have a question!!!!
Man has a lot to learn about Jesus.
But what Jesus has to learn from man? And don't you dare tell me that he has no questions!!!

God is God The Father, Jesus is God The Son, then there is The Holy Spirit and they are one and the same.

God made man. It's like you making a paper airplane, what have you to learn from it? You know it's made of paper, you know all about paper, you know it will fly. What can God (who is also Jesus) want or need to know that He does not know already?

After all, God is omniscient - He knows everything.

There, you are an idiot and I told you He has no questions and I told you why.

(Do children go to school in Greece? I mean, you do not seem very clever when it comes to the Bible.)

[Jake the Greek]

Re: Arkas

Oh, I know everything about the Bible(I presume you are speaking of Pain of Salvation's "BE" edition.If you have a different edition it may contain minor or/and major changes in the text. So be carefull!)

Chapter Title: Deus Nova
Verses: Most of the basically except the part that counts population...
Text:

Trying to understand the system of Life
Trying to understand myself
I created the world to be an image of myself, of my mind

All of these thoughts, all of these doubts and hopes
Inside
I took out to form a new breed
A new way to be
And now I am many, so many

So much larger than ever I were
Yet, at the same time
So much smaller and more vulnarable

They all carry shards of the whole
Together they become me
I see them interact, develop
I see them take different sides
As were they different minds
Believers of different ways, and different gods

I think they will teach me something

See??? It's right there in front of your very own eyes and yet you didn't notice it! Next time pay more attention please! I will NOT tollerate it.

[Lord SamIam]

Re: Arkas

See, this is what's called FALSE LOGIC. You and I, all of us, live in a world bound by rules. We're bound by the laws of physics, thermodynamics, in short - we're bound by reality. However, God is the Creator. He made the rules and the rules don't rule the Ruler! The question you're asking is identical to one of the most popular questions by atheists ever - "If God is omnipotent can He make a rock so large that He can't lift it?" No matter how its answered it is always used to disprove God's omnipotence. But God doesn't live like us. He can and can't create a rock so big that He both can and can't lift it. Try coming up with a valid arguement, please. SamIam

[Jake the Greek]

Re: Arkas

See, this is what's called FALSE LOGIC. You and I, all of us, live in a world bound by rules. We're bound by the laws of physics, thermodynamics, in short - we're bound by reality. However, God is the Creator. He made the rules and the rules don't rule the Ruler! The question you're asking is identical to one of the most popular questions by atheists ever - "If God is omnipotent can He make a rock so large that He can't lift it?" No matter how its answered it is always used to disprove God's omnipotence. But God doesn't live like us. He can and can't create a rock so big that He both can and can't lift it. Try coming up with a valid arguement, please. SamIam

That would create a paradox.If you knew about simple mathematics and/or physics you'd knew about THAT.

[Jake the Greek]

Re: Arkas

An other very serious question. If mankind were to be destroyed would god be destroyed to? Because that's what it say in my bible

Chapter:9.Diffidentia
Verses:That little part somewhere around the middle
Text:

Man is shattered
I am shattered
My shards have become shards of their own
Pieces of pieces, impossible to put back together

[Dr. Ernest C. Ville, D.C.S.]

Re: Arkas

Have you two been smoking the heroin again? You people seriously scare me. When the haze wears off, I suggest your drag your trashy selves to a church and get the help you so desperately need.