[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

***Specifics of the Bible are discussed and re-interpeted all the time.

Of course, but that doesn't mean it's right.

Of course it's open to interpretation. It has to be. That's why we don't go around murdering everyone that isn't a believer even though the old testament essentially commands us to do so.

Why does it have to be open to interpretation? Because there are parts you find inconvenient? If secular law permitted the execution of sodomites, would you still try to re-interpret Lev 20:13 and say it doesn't apply?

God said "Be fruitful and multiply." But did he mean to fornicate with every woman you meet? No. So you have to interpret it properly.

How could one possibly interpret Gen 1:28 to mean "Fornicate with every woman you meet"? Numerous Bible verses condemn sexual immorality.

"The devil is cunning. He will come as your friend and speak as your God. Know him or lose thyself to him."

Where do you come up with these quotes?

[SemperFortis6]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

So I came to read this article thinking it may change me back over (Yes, back as in I was catholic. So I will add my comments inside squigly braces {}
"I found a great article online, and in case you don't feel like reading it all (it's quite long), I'll summarize it here for you :

{Thanks for summarizing}

http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism

-All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.
{Yes I believe in evolution, I am a man of science and it is not logical to reject evolution. A great example of evolution is a HIV infected person who is given drugs. The virus evolves by natural selection into drug-resist HIV.}

-Atheists try to shift the burden of proof unfairly upon theists (ie, atheists make the wild and unprovable claim that God does not exist, and then unfairly expect us Christians to prove that He DOES exist)
{unfairly? You mean fairly because I am ready to call out the unprovable claim that any god does exist}

-The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)
{The Bible is always right? See I Samuel 18:24 so that is right? Sounds good, I'll go get some foreskins as the Bible says}

-Some famous atheists have shown they occasionally have doubts about their disbelief, which proves that all atheists really do believe in God. Of course, no Christian has ever doubted the existence of God.
{No Christian has ever doubted the existence of God? I was a devoted catholic I wanted to become a priest more than anything at one point, so unless I don't count as an atheist I am one Christian that doubted gods existing.}

-Everybody who has ever been in the army will tell you that there are no atheists in foxholes. That is, once they are in danger of death, the atheist will strip himself of his irrational disbelief in God, and come to admit he believed in God all along. Only liberal slimebags like MSNBC report otherwise.
{The fact that you said "liberal slimebags" just pisses me off. I find that unnecessary you are calling people names which is quite immature too.}

-Communism, which is inherently evil, is founded by atheism, and all atheists are probably secret communists.
{Communism isn't evil, not founded by atheism as we are not an organization, and I know plenty of other atheist, never have they even discussed communism with a single positive remark, most atheist also don't like communism.}

-Because we can think of the existence of God, God must obviously exists, and therefore atheists are illogical.
{Because we can think of the existence of Unicorns, Unicorns must obviously exists, and therefore unicorn-disbelievers are illogical [fill in any mythical creature]}

-Everything in the universe shows obvious and undeniable signs that it was created by a mind far superior to our own.
{No it doesn't it shows that there was a "big bang" or as I refer to it "Mass expansion of condensed matter" not that some big mind made it}

-a lot of mass murderers were atheists, and all atheists, having no morality to guide them, are only a bad day away from going on a genocide spree. There have no exactly zero cases on Christian mass murderers throughout all of history.
{Just because I'm an atheist doesn't mean I have no morals, I think abortion is wrong and killing of a child, I think murder, lying, cheating is all wrong so the people that go on murdering sprees are just psycopaths mostly and I know a good amount that were Christian. However I saw a lot posted in the form already.}

-no atheists contribute to charitable causes, and all Christians do. This is because of atheist's beliefs in Darwinism.
{Oh, so I guess all the money I donate doesn't count, and the soup kitchens I help with, and also the "Fish Fry"s I help with during the catholic Lent season so that people may follow their religion as they wish does not count?}

-I quote: "The Barna Group found regarding atheism and morality that those who hold to the worldviews of atheism or agnosticism in America were more likely, than theists in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable: illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; abortion; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language; gambling; pornography and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in homosexuality/bisexuality" Despicable.
{Saying Despicable at the end just irradiated me, judging people again, are we? and no I think illegal drug use is bad for going against authority, excessive drinking is ok if done in a responsible manner (proper place, time, people around), I personaly don't like it but I don't think it's moraly wrong I do however see it as unhealthy, and I think you can curse your ass off but should never be done in an offensive manner, gambling is fine if you do so with excess money that is not loaned or going to end badly if lost, pornography is fine if the women and men are happy with what they do then why be against it, and homosexuality is fine gay people are responsible with things involving children because they always want a baby, they don't accedently adobt a baby, and if two people love eachother why should they not be allowed to be happy, would you rather they enter a heterosexual marriage where they are unhappy and would probally eventually lash out?}

-I quote: "
Atheism The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs."
{First off that was confusing, and that's not true or even close,
Atheism: The Idea that there is no god from any religon and logically denying a god
or
Atheism: When someone is not taught of any god and thus never believes in one.
}

-atheists don't believe in miracles, although many Christian philosophers disagree.
{That's right, we don't, and your second statement makes no sense, Christian philosophers say miracles happened because they won't go against their faith?}

-atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.
{No, the universe has no origin, it always has and always will be. When too much free energy (G; which is measured with entropy (measurement of disorder)) is built up the universe will condense and collapse into itself forming a condensed area of matter then it will expand rapidly re-forming the universe again.}

-Atheists have more mental and physical health problems than Christians. This is attributed to theists having something more to life for. Therefore, God exists.
{*Live; and no, not even close, people that belive in god are at a disadvantage Discovery News explains in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZqaeusdMTk
}


-Friedrich Nietzsche went crazy and was an atheist, therefore atheism drove him insane (although there is an ongoing debate on the matter...)
{You said ongoing debate, atheism did not drive him insane, he was insane because his brain caused him to be insane.}

-Countries with large numbers of atheists have higher suicide rates, therefore atheism makes you want to kill yourself. Of course they would take the easy way out, not realizing like normal people that God sends suicide cases to hell. Also, developed nations also tend to have higher rates of both atheism and suicide, so we must conclude that technology and wealth are evil.
{ok, I was following along until the end, we must conclude that technology and wealth are evil? Then I hope your Amish and I'm not sure why you own a computer if technology is evil in your eyes. And the suicide rates are not able to prove anything in correlation to atheist. The color blue lowers suicide rates but that doesn't mean blue is a life saving color, and that's an actually study that was done with logical evidence. Find a Scientific Journal on atheism and suicide.}

-Sigmund Freud said religious belief was unhealthy, but many doctors think Freud is wrong, therefore atheism is evil.
{Again with these odd points "therefore atheism is evil" you have not been correct on most of these points so are you therefore evil for being wrong? If someone thinks 1+1=3 are they evil?}

-many famous atheists tell lies, therefore atheists are deceptive.
{That's not a problem, most people unknowingly lie ~5-8 times a day, and don't say you don't because you don't even notice that you do.}


-Fewer people believe now as opposed to x number of years ago (usually around twenty) in evolution, therefore evolutionary theory is wrong and by proxy atheism is wrong, since it's the same thing.
{Evolutionary Theory is quite accurate as mentioned before and atheism is not belief in Evolution it's believing there is no god. I'm 99.99% sure that's two different things. Unless Being Christian only means abortion is killing a child, in which case I'm still Christian, I just don't believe in God.}

-Non-Christians are more likely to believe in silly superstitions, like palm reading and astronomy (note: Non-Christian = atheist). Christians believe only in the cold, hard logical of the world around them.
{You mixed the words around, Atheist don't believe in gods why should we think palm reading and astronomy are the truth? We find that just has humourous as anyone else. Christians already believe in something that is not in the "cold, hard logical of the world around them" if anyone that's us athest that ONLY believe in the logical world around us.}

-Some theologians say atheist is on the decline, therefore it is. However, this is no reason to lose caution of the atheist threat!
{Some people say murder is ok, therefore it is. However they are in prison. Just because some people say something does not make it true.}


-There are a number of anti-atheist blogs (isn't that good to know? )
{No, that's messed up, and inconsiderate, can you guide me to these blogs? I'd love for some evidence to make me reconsider.}

-there is a pro-atheist bias in the liberal controlled media, but as we know from stated above that atheism is on the decline, this hardly matters.
{are you cheering over the misfortune of a belief and amount who believe? because I don't know where these facts are from but they hardly sound right.}

-Causes of atheism (I quote): moral depravity, rebellion, superficiality, error, state churches, poor relationship with father, division in religion, learned times, peace, and prosperity, negative experiences with theists, scientism.
{nope, know all my morals; no, I'm being logical; I guess you could put me here but I am saying not only no god but denying religions and their organizations all together.; I've run across error and researched it until it was corrected or confirmed true; no, no influce of a state church; no, good relation with my father; no, I was catholic; learned times? I'm not sure what you mean but if it's when I learned it was as soon as I could comprehend anything; peace makes me happy but we have none in our world; I'm middle class neiter rich nor poor; I've never had a negitive expericne with one beliving in a god I can directly recall that influnced my choice towards atheism.; This is the closest one I am to, my thoughts are backed by science however not based solely upon them.}


-atheists question why evil exists since God is good, but don't ask why good exists if God isn't real.
{I don't know about you but no matter how much someone hates me, and rejects me, and I hate them equally I would NEVER want them in pain and agony by burning in Hell for eternity. So even though God gave us free will why not send us to purgatory to suffer for our sins until we realize the "truth"}

-early scientists were Christian, therefore Christianity owns a monopoly on science and atheists are not allowed to say there is discrepancy between the beliefs in the two.
{first scientist could not be Christain because scientists existed BEFORE CHRIST.}

-Sir Francis Bacon said he'd rather belief in any silly old legend then believe that God doesn't exist
{"Small amounts of philosophy lead to atheism, but larger amounts bring us back to God." -Sir Francis Bacon
That quote itself is incorrect, atheist ponder religions more than you likely will. So just because a senile old man says something doesn't make it a good point, if an old man offers you candy in his van I hope you don't hop in because he seems wise.}

-Some Christian apologists have problems with the beliefs of Bertrand Russell

{Ok, that fine, just a statement really}

-Creation scientists tend to win creation-evolution debates
{Creation makes no sence logically, that something was created form nothing? Energy and matter can be neither created nor destroyed. For man to become from nothing is not logical and the fact that we evolved generation by generation is much more logical then *poof* here is Adam! The most logical part if making Eve from Adam's rib but only because Eve would be created from Adam's DNA... oh, but then Eve would be an exact copy of Adam.}

-Notable atheists have converted to Christianity. The reverse never happens.
{I WAS CATHOLIC NOW I'M ATHEIST! That is the majority of atheist is people who strongly believed in Christianity or any other religion.}



A poll found these results =

Position: This group does not at all agree with
my vision of American society: I would disapprove if my child wanted
to marry a member of this group: Atheist 39.6% 47.6%
Therefore, the majority of normal people clearly know atheism is evil.
{No, that's not true, there could be many other reasons of misinformation for those results.}

-atheists criticism of the Bible can't be trusted because, I quote: "a thorough understanding of the Bible -- and this would actually apply to any complex work from any culture -- requires specialized knowledge, and a broad range of specialized knowledge in a variety of fields.... Not even most scholars in the field can master every aspect"
{It's not like we take stabs in the dark, many atheist have read the Bible, I read the Entire thing over a year. Have you read other religious books? Because I don't stop after Christian faith, I don't believe in any religion, I have studied all major religions intensely.}

Of course, I quote: The Bible is still loved by millions, read by millions, and studied by millions.
{You forgot the quotes but we're all good.}

-atheists make bad arguments on the internet, says Christian apologist.
{Oh, so these arguments are bad? Sorry, we can talk over the phone or in real life if that would change the arguments into better ones.}

-atheists try to convert young people to atheism over the internet. Christians, of course, never stoop to such behavior.
{No we don't we just want to profess our faith. And Christians don't go for young people, they have Christian parents baptize their infants into the faith, Christians get them in the crib when they don't know what they are doing.}

-Nearly a quarter or a third of philosophy professors are theists, therefore, I quote: "God is not 'dead' in academia; he returned to life in the 1960's and is now alive and well in his last academic stronghold, philosophy departments."
{25% or 33%? can you pick one for this statistic that I am sure is back by true facts. And that's great if that is so keep strong}

-atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God.
{I don't exist? Because I'm not pretending I truly do not believe that God exist.}

-atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.
{The French Revolution was not one of the most evil events of all of history, I would put WWII, Cold War, Cuban Missle Crisis, USA end of WWII, Toxic gas use in WWI as way worse than a revolution and last time I checked the revolution was the cause of unfair taxation.}

-atheists make up a small percentage of the world population, therefore it is wrong.
{No, when Abram started listening to "God" he was a very small percentage of the world population, does that mean he was wrong? If yes than your an atheist, welcome, we're not evil people. If no then your argument is invalid.}

-a lot of famous people said bad stuff about atheists
{So what does that mean? That people have a poor and incorrect prejudgment about atheist? Because we are not evil people, we just don't believe in gods not all Christians are good people, Bloody Mary killed people how did not follow her specific Christian view of faith.}
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Please respond if you have any counters I don't wish to bring up a feud, I just want to discuss these points.

[SemperFortis6]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

"David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king’s son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife. 28 And Saul saw and knew that nthe Lord was with David..." This is a bit in to the quote I revered, you have to read on.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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{Yes I believe in evolution, I am a man of science and it is not logical to reject evolution...}

Hello, and welcome to our friendly forums! I'm afraid I can't get past this part as it reveals your closed mindedness towards the facts and the Truth. You may think you understand evolution, but I've studied the controversy very closely for a couple years now, and I can assure you there is no reason to put your faith in Darwin.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

"David brought their foreskins, and they gave them in full tale to the king, that he might be the king’s son in law. And Saul gave him Michal his daughter to wife. 28 And Saul saw and knew that nthe Lord was with David..." This is a bit in to the quote I revered, you have to read on.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Mark L. Snyde, PhD]

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I want only to address this:

...
-Everything in the universe shows obvious and undeniable signs that it was created by a mind far superior to our own.
{No it doesn't it shows that there was a "big bang" or as I refer to it "Mass expansion of condensed matter" not that some big mind made it}...

What caused the big bang? Where did the matter, energy and spacetime originate? Wouldn't you say that events are preceded by causes? Do we find that matter just spontaneously creates itself, without a Creator? Do things happen for no reason and without cause?

Scientists cannot speak intelligently about what even happened at the big bang (moment of Creation) because the laws of science (guesswork of humanity) break down under such conditions, given the incompatibility of general relativity and quantum mechanics. The fact that these theories do not merge shows that at least one of them is wrong. Which is it? Since they both seem to be right within their own domains, I would say this indicates they are both wrong.

We have no need of "theories" when we have The Word of God. Scientists would do well, as I have, to consider The Word of God as axiomatic, and build up from this to get postulates. Any science that does not have The Holy Word of God at its foundation will surely topple, just as a man who does not have Christ in his heart will fall.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

I want only to address this:



What caused the big bang? Where did the matter, energy and spacetime originate? Wouldn't you say that events are preceded by causes? Do we find that matter just spontaneously creates itself, without a Creator? Do things happen for no reason and without cause?

Scientists cannot speak intelligently about what even happened at the big bang (moment of Creation) because the laws of science (guesswork of humanity) break down under such conditions, given the incompatibility of general relativity and quantum mechanics. The fact that these theories do not merge shows that at least one of them is wrong. Which is it? Since they both seem to be right within their own domains, I would say this indicates they are both wrong.

We have no need of "theories" when we have The Word of God. Scientists would do well, as I have, to consider The Word of God as axiomatic, and build up from this to get postulates. Any science that does not have The Holy Word of God at its foundation will surely topple, just as a man who does not have Christ in his heart will fall.

Brother Snyde, you are so patient and kind to spend yet more of your valuable time refuting this old "big bang" nonsense for this unsaved trash, which has been refuted time and time again. Your patience is incredible.

Honestly, the old Sumerian idea of a big hill with giant worms spitting up to form the universe makes much more sense than this "big bang" silliness ever did.

Why can't people just wise up and see that God, who had no idea what to do with Himself for all eternity, one day just decided to bring the universe into existence for His pleasure? It makes so much sense!

Colossians 1:16: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Revelation 4:11: Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

John 1:3: All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[Bobby-Joe]

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-Communism, which is inherently evil, is founded by atheism, and all atheists are probably secret communists.
{Communism isn't evil, not founded by atheism as we are not an organization, and I know plenty of other atheist, never have they even discussed communism with a single positive remark, most atheist also don't like communism.}

How can Communism NOT be utter evil? Communists force SOCIALIZED medicine upon little CHILDREN for the love of God!

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

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****You must realize that most of what you said is simply NOT true and is on the side of hateful.

If you want to be taken seriously, you should cite your references for such claims. This strengthens your arguments!

Ah yes, the infidel's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card--when you're losing the debate, claim that the other side is just being "hateful." Works every time.



Pastor Ed

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Ah yes, the infidel's Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card--when you're losing the debate, claim that the other side is just being "hateful." Works every time.



Pastor Ed

Yes Pastor, next thing you know Mr Junior Hitler here will be accusing us of being racists.

[Leyland]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Atheists are nothing but a bunch of self styled intellectuals with beards who sit around the internet look at porn and mock Christians all day. In other words complete losers so why would anyone want to be one? [QUOTE/]

I don't watch porn and I don't have a beard, I'm not a loser and you are mocking atheists in this comment, so don't be hypocritical, god wouldn't like that. And thanks for calling me an intellectual. I know I am one.

[QUOTE/]Let's be adults here; there is only one source of "cool" here and that is Jesus. Do you want to be Jesus going old testament on the money changers in the Temple or do want to be Richard Dawkins a

Brothers and Sisters in Christ,

As you all realize, we currently live in the last of days. Evil is increasing on the Earth, and while we are looking up to the sky each day to see whether or not the Rapture already occurs, we are condemned to live in this wretched place, and try to fight Satan's Hordes for Christ.

One of the main evils of this age is the way satanic humanists have slowly been subverting the morality of the majority of the American population. Since the 16th Century, they have worked incessantly to replace Godly, Bible-based Dogma with their evil, secularist philosophies. I will now discuss some of the main points.

Human rights

Exodus 21:20-21:
And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

If a man hits his slave, he is only to be punished if the slave dies within two days. If the slave doesn't die, or dies after the period of two days, the owner is not to be punished. Praise Jesus!

Compare this with humanism, which has always opposed slavery. Humanists like to emphasize "human rights" a ridiculous concept unsupported by the Bible, and say that holding slaves and hitting them is wrong. Why do you think that in America it were the Christians who were the last to accept the demonic abolition? And why do you think we want to bring slavery back again? Because we believe in the Bible, Exodus 21 included!

Freedom of religion

Deuteronomy 13:12-16:
If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

We should kill unbelievers. This is what Christians have done through the centuries, and even false Christians like catholics kept this commandment!

Despite that fact that killing unbelievers has been an integral part of Christianity throughout the ages, many people now falsely believe that Christianity is some kind of fluffy-bunny religion that promotes religious tolerance! This is utter nonsense. Freedom of religion, in fact, is another product of atheist enlightenment thinking, and separation of church and state (another ridiculous, unbiblical concept) was one of the main ideas of the French Revolution, which was the first attempt in Europe since the Dawn of Christianity to introduce a non-religious state. This utter blasphemy has subsequently been used by liberals as an inspiration for their godless ideas about "religious tolerance."

Of course, God got angry at that, and made the French lose all their wars as a punishment for this.

Anyway, God isn't tolerant of other religions, as the Bible plainly teaches (Revelation 21:8, unbelievers go to Hell), so neither should we.

Science based on rational inquiry instead of unquestioning Faith

Proverbs 2:6-7:
For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.
He layeth up sound wisdom for the righteous: he is a buckler to them that walk uprightly.

Proverbs 9:10:
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Hebrews 11:1-3:
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
For by it the elders obtained a good report.
Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

1 Timothy 6:3-5:
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

There are few things more evil than the modern practice of science. From the above Passages, we learn that wisdom is to be found by worshiping God, and believing in "things not seen," such as God. Modern science, another brainchild of humanism, doesn't care for God in any way while researching the world, but only cares about "physical evidence," where True Christians™ always have ignored this kind of evidence for the larger part, as we realize that Scriptural Evidence is much more important.

Even more, 1 Timothy 6:3-5 commands us to withdraw from people with different opinions. Secular science, on the other hand, thrives on comparing different points of view, and tests it observations by taking up an opposite viewpoint and trying to attack its original one.

In short, the difference between True Christianity™ and humanist thinking can't be much more pronounced than it is in the issue of science. We shouldn't ask questions and try to research things; instead; read the Bible. Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom.

Environmentalism

Hebrews 2:6-8:
But one in a certain place testified, saying, What is man, that thou art mindful of him? or the son of man that thou visitest him?
Thou madest him a little lower than the angels; thou crownedst him with glory and honour, and didst set him over the works of thy hands:
Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put all in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see not yet all things put under him.

Humanity is allowed to do with the earth whatever it pleases. That's what the Bible teaches.

However, humanists have tried to topple this Pillar of Christian Morality as well. Beginning in the 19th Century, they have started to exert political pressure on governments worldwide to "protect the environment" against the supposed bad influence we would have on it.

Thankfully, in America we have a strong Republican Party, who, as True Christians™, don't let their vision be clouded by this secular nonsense.

Racial equality

Deuteronomy 14:2:
For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.

Deuteronomy 23:3-4:
An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever: Because they met you not with bread and with water in the way, when ye came forth out of Egypt; and because they hired against thee Balaam the son of Beor of Pethor of Mesopotamia, to curse thee.

Matthew 15:22-26:
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil. But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.

Using the godless theory of evilution, humanists and atheists nowadays claim that all races of humanity should be equal, as they belong to the same "species."

However, the Bible doesn't support the notion of racial equality anywhere in its vast canon. It does, however, make distinctions between different races, as the above Verses testify. First of all, God likes jews better than any other people. Secondly, the traditional enemies of Israel, Moabites and Ammonites, are never allowed to enter the congregation of God. In other words, God dislikes these races so much, that He won't even allow them
near Him if they come to worship Him.

And when a Canaanite woman comes to Jesus, He makes very clear that He doesn't think the heathen to be equal to the jews either.

In short, the notion of "racial equality" is secular humanist nonsense, and has always been, and will always be, opposed by True Christians™ who stay True to the Bible.

Cultural tolerance

2 Corinthians 6:14-17:
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you

Romans 1:18-22:
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools

Should we be tolerant of other cultures? Humanism certainly teaches we should, because we should respect other people being raised under different circumstances, which results in different worldviews.

This, of course, is bollocks. God doesn't want us to have interaction with unbelievers. Also, the Bible teaches in Romans 1:18-22 that God has clearly revealed Himself to all men on the Earth, so no one on this Earth has an excuse not to believe in God, whatever your culture is. This is why True Christians™ through the ages never cared much about that nonsense about "respect for indigenous cultures" when winning the world for Christ during the colonial age. Secularists would undoubtedly have "respected" those cultures, and let the demon worship of the injuns and the African tribes continue.

Freedom of speech

Leviticus 24:15-16:
And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, Whosoever curseth his God shall bear his sin. And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.

Humanists have always propagated the reprehensible idea of "freedom of speech," which would mean that anyone would be allowed to give his opinion on everything.

This couldn't be further removed from Biblical Morality. In the Bible, people are regularly killed for speaking their minds, and we see in the above Passage, for example, that all critics of God and His Holy Bible (which is the meaning of "blasphemers") should be put to death.

Gender equality

Ephesians 5:22-24:
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Modern feminism is another brainchild of the humanist ideas of equality and freedom of speech. True Christians™ have always tried to hinder the rise of feminism, because the Bible teaches that women shouldn't be allowed the same rights as men, but should subject themselves, because man is the head of the woman.

Equality of people in general

Romans 9:21-24:
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

The above Verse testifies of the fact that God created all humans differently, he created some people good, and other people evil. So yes, according to the Bible, some people are better than other people. Humanists rebel against this Godly Truth™ by claiming that all humans should be considered as equals to one another. We True Christians™ laugh about such nonsense.

I hope I have given all of you some insight as to why modern humanist morality has nothing to do with Biblical Morality, and modern values of freedom, tolerance and equality are unbiblical heresies.

Yours in Christ,

True Disciple

nd write books no one reads? The choice is clear; Jesus, He kicks ass.

Actually, I prefer Dawkins

[Leyland]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Atheists are nothing but a bunch of self styled intellectuals with beards who sit around the internet look at porn and mock Christians all day. In other words complete losers so why would anyone want to be one?

I don't watch porn and I don't have a beard, I'm not a loser and you are mocking atheists in the quote so you are being hypocritical.? I'm also not a loser. And thanks for calling me a self-styled intellectual. I know I are one.

[Christianmanoflight]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

I don't care about atheism as God has spoken to me only to reveal himself to me. I now feel the power of his great advise.
We in USA Gods country must keep it safe.
We must kill those of the foreign lands as soon as possible, we must all speak English and those who don't must be stoned publicly.

God Bless The US

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

I don't watch porn and I don't have a beard, I'm not a loser and you are mocking atheists in the quote so you are being hypocritical.? I'm also not a loser. And thanks for calling me a self-styled intellectual. I know I are one.

Of course you are a loser. You stated it twice. I bet you masturbate all the time too.


By the way:
"I know I are one'."
is incorrect. An intelligent person would of written:
"I know, I am one'."


That is your own personal, no one but Jesus can take it way from you, proof. Enjoy!

[Leyland]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Of course you are a loser. You stated it twice. I bet you masturbate all the time too.


By the way:
"I know I are one'."
is incorrect. An intelligent person would of written:
"I know, I am one'."


That is your own personal, no one but Jesus can take it way from you, proof. Enjoy!

I was only responding to a comment that offended me. And I don't masturbate all the time either. How would you know anyway? Get a life.