[loco73]

Re: ABSOLUTE PROOF THAT GOD DOES NOT EXIST!!!

God in his Bible says 'Thou shalt not kill' which was clearly aimed at the human population (lions can't read, write or understand God's word).


YIC

It also works for humans with the same mechanism, as with the lions.

[Noah Sole]

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Why would you write such a vile, nasty and malicious lie? I hope you will take the time and educated yourself because you just come across as a foulmouthed oddball who is lacking intelligence. More and more people know YOU Southerners
ARE SHAME FOR AMERICA

Hey don't go shouting at me in purple

What lie?

And I am a Southerner but not from the US of A.

YIC

[Didymus Much]

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...greivous eye assault deleted...

Comic Sans; didn't read.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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No, wrong. If a lion kills you, is it good or bad? Bad for you. But good for the lion.

So, still good and bad depend on the viewpoint and are not absolute values.

Lions do not read. There is also no evidence that they have souls.

God commands that we not commit adultery. Therefore, committing adultery is evil.

God commands that we not fornicate. Therefore, fornication is evil.

God commands that we not plant multiple crops in the same field, intermingled. Therefore, planting intermingled crops is evil.

Get it?

Good and evil have only to do with obeying or disobeying God.

[loco73]

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Lions do not read. There is also no evidence that they have souls.

God commands that we not commit adultery. Therefore, committing adultery is evil.

But if one man has children with many women (married or not), this will provide survival of the species. Remember, that we as humans did not always live in cities with subways and pizza service 24 hours and credit cards.....
It also provides more genetic diversity and that's the reson, why humans are inclined to do that. If you only rely on one man and one woman for ever, you are limited to a certain genetic pool. So, there are not only advantages of such a lifestyle.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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But if one man has children with many women (married or not), this will provide survival of the species. Remember, that we as humans did not always live in cities with subways and pizza service 24 hours and credit cards.....
It also provides more genetic diversity and that's the reson, why humans are inclined to do that. If you only rely on one man and one woman for ever, you are limited to a certain genetic pool. So, there are not only advantages of such a lifestyle.

Wait: you're a Mormon????



Also: please ask your secular biology teacher to explain to you that even in as little as, say, 10 generations of a reasonably-sized spawn-pool , a monogamous pairing system ensures (practically) limitless diversity.

(As always, I'm always astonished when I have to explain the "science" that Jesus-haters use against us, but hey.)

YiC,

Zech

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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But if one man has children with many women (married or not), this will provide survival of the species.

So?

First of all, polygamy (one man, multiple wives) is perfectly acceptable from a Biblical standpoint. Check out how many wives Solomon had.

Second, what makes you think God cares one whit about what "provides genetic diversity" in deciding what is good and what is evil?

Once again, you are trying to apply your flawed humanist "logic" to God.

God knows ALL. He bases His Plan upon whatever HE determines to be most important. Or what pleases Him.

It is for us to obey, not to question. That's the entire point of Christianity.

[Atheus]

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Tom, Logo, I am with you. I am still amazed by the extraordanary ideas you people are having about the world. At first I would like to respond to the last post.

It is for us to obey, not to question. That's the entire point of Christianity.

One should never just obey something, there is always something to be questioned. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't your god allow us to have a free will? Since I haven't seen any form of evidence that there may be a higher power, please try to convince me with something that makes sense.

[piratespazz]

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Why would you write such a vile, nasty and malicious lie? I hope you will take the time and educated yourself because you just come across as a foulmouthed oddball who is lacking intelligence. More and more people know YOU Southerners ARE SHAME FOR AMERICA

Why Thomas, what an ugly thing to say.

I hope you will take the time and “educated” yourself?

Matthew 5:38-40
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

I am a Southerner but it will be up to God to judge your blasphemous dark soul as he sees fit.

[loco73]

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Wait: you're a Mormon????



Also: please ask your secular biology teacher to explain to you that even in as little as, say, 10 generations of a reasonably-sized spawn-pool , a monogamous pairing system ensures (practically) limitless diversity.

(As always, I'm always astonished when I have to explain the "science" that Jesus-haters use against us, but hey.)

YiC,

Zech

I was arguing about adultery and about 'good' and 'evil' in principle. I tried to show, that adultery - seen as evil - is not really evil depending on the viewpoint. I can find reasons why it can be good. It provides more genetic diversity. Again: I don't say there is no good or evil. I say, good and evil are not absolute values. They depend on the person and on the system, they're into.
It's just the group, which decides and defines the values, no matter how small or large that group may be. If there are no absolute values, there is also no God and no devil, as they are personifications of the absolute 'good' and the absolute 'evil'.
What was the war in Iraq? Good or evil? It was really evil for some iraqi childeren, when bombed by some of America's 'liberation bombs' and 'peace troups' (what a word!). But is was also good for the average US-oil worker. If US-companies get access to all the oil, the children of these workers and of many other industries will have a better life and will maybe not have to move into slums, because 'daddy' gets a job. But all on the expense of iraqi. So, there is no way out. It's neither good nor evil. It just IS. And both are not less valuable. No matter how you turn that around, you would always hurt someone. If one gets the oil, the other one doesn't.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Tom, Logo, I am with you. I am still amazed by the extraordanary ideas you people are having about the world. At first I would like to respond to the last post.



One should never just obey something, there is always something to be questioned. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't your god allow us to have a free will? Since I haven't seen any form of evidence that there may be a higher power, please try to convince me with something that makes sense.

Of course you should obey God.

The evidence for God is the Bible and it's totally consistent with the message that when people disobey God bad things happen.

[tom kinight]

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What miracles DOES poor dead Jesus currently perform?
I have no proof he performed any miracles even those
mentioned in the bible. Oh, the walking on water is an easy
one to perform, didn't you know? Even I could do that one
if I was so inclined. It's called being slight of foot.
Can I make myself invisible? Yup, go behind a curtain or
into the next room.
You say Jesus has made himself invisible for thousands of
years. TC when your corpse is rotting (in JCs case rotted)
in a grave, you are invisible to sight because you are
elsewhere, with the worms.
I disagree that a mortal human has not accomplished the same
feat. Every human who has died since Jesus' died has done
exactly that - they are invisible to the naked eye of a currently
living human being - same thing. . Can you prove that Zeus or Thor do not exist? Please do. We'll
use the same method to prove your god does not exist. It should be
easy once you show us how. Especially if he was intending to impregnate
a virgin, chuckle.
In fact, weren't there "many" children born of
and from, the Gods?

[Noah Sole]

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What miracles DOES poor dead Jesus currently perform?
I have no proof he performed any miracles even those
mentioned in the bible. Oh, the walking on water is an easy
one to perform, didn't you know? Even I could do that one
if I was so inclined. It's called being slight of foot.
Can I make myself invisible? Yup, go behind a curtain or
into the next room.
You say Jesus has made himself invisible for thousands of
years. TC when your corpse is rotting (in JCs case rotted)
in a grave, you are invisible to sight because you are
elsewhere, with the worms.
I disagree that a mortal human has not accomplished the same
feat. Every human who has died since Jesus' died has done
exactly that - they are invisible to the naked eye of a currently
living human being - same thing. . Can you prove that Zeus or Thor do not exist? Please do. We'll
use the same method to prove your god does not exist. It should be
easy once you show us how. Especially if he was intending to impregnate
a virgin, chuckle.
In fact, weren't there "many" children born of
and from, the Gods?

Tom
Writing in BIG PURPLE LETTERS was pretty rubbish, writing in red with lines under it is even worse.

We're still waiting for your proof, not evidence of your ability to work with fonts (not the baptismal type).

All the best

[Didymus Much]

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...whatever...

Can the admins PLEASE disable Tom's fonts and colours somehow?

It's painful enough already trying to decipher what point he's trying to make.

Tom: more proof of God's non-existence, less pointless gum flapping, kk? That's what this thread is here for, after all.

[Atheus]

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Of course you should obey God.

The evidence for God is the Bible and it's totally consistent with the message that when people disobey God bad things happen.

I can personally say that I do not obey God and I don't feel like lots of bad things happen to me. I am happy with my life as it is and I'm sure it will not get better by changing my mind.

"The evidence for God is the Bible" I strongly disagree with this, because there is too much about that book to be questioned. at first, since it has been translated in many languages, many times, one can never actually say what is meant by the original texts. You can't simply translate something if you don't know every single meaning of a sentence and this is impossible with a book as the bible since it can be interpetated in many ways. Second thing I'd like to say about it, is, how do you know that the bible is not just written by some kind of moron who just wanted to say some crazy things. Adolf Hitler wrote a book, and it became popular to many people. What if I personally go out on the streets tomorrow, running around, yelling I am the son of God? Would you believe me now? You wouldn't would you, why would you believe someone who did it 2012 years ago? It's not that hard to convince someone who is ignorant if you add some nice words to it.

For these reasons I would also like to question why you believe something if there is no prove to it. Let me compare the whole religion idea with a magic trick. I am holding a deck of cards and allow you to pick one. After you did this, I tell you which one it is, while I haven't seen the card. You might be wondering how I knew that. I tell you it's "magic". It's not very convincing, since you know I'm just a normal person. You know I can't do magic, so you will not believe me. But exactly the opposite is what you do by believing in a God. Someone tells you there is a God, and you believe them just because you don't know the answer. I do not know many things but I am not making things up to get the answer. I am not believing it is "magic" just because I don't know what the answer exactly is.