Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

[JennyD]

Brothers and Sisters,

As I read the posts by new folk, I find with remarkable consistency that the posters who are non-believers are invariably semi-literate maroons. The occasional Christian who joins us in our Holy Mission is nearly always a skilled verbal communicator.

My question: Are people Unsaved because they are stupid, or does God make them stupid because they are Unsaved? Or is there some other reason for this glaringly-obvious correlation?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

It goes without saying God makes them so stupid they chose to be unsaved. I mean unless the Hand of God(r) were blinding a man why else would he chose damnation?

[Deaner]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

It goes without saying God makes them so stupid they chose to be unsaved.

And sometimes he makes them so dumb they can't even choose. I mean look at a retarded baby; right out of the womb it screams stupid. The only thing that will ever matter to that kid is whether an object shines or can he lick it. If you tried to preach the message of salvation all you'd get is gurgling and the occasional fart.

[Don the Baptist]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

And sometimes he makes them so dumb they can't even choose. I mean look at a retarded baby; right out of the womb it screams stupid. The only thing that will ever matter to that kid is whether an object shines or can he lick it. If you tried to preach the message of salvation all you'd get is gurgling and the occasional fart.

That makes me wonde; ever notice how much shiney stuff (I think they call it "bling" or some such foolishness) homers wear, I wonder if perhaps all of this illiteracy, poor spelling/grammatical skills, stupidity, tomfoolery and homersexuralism might be interconnected??

Rarely does one encounter a believer that is lacking in basic literacy, book learnins and the like.

[Don the Baptist]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

add "r" - then I misspell wonder, but of course that was unintentional. My demonically possessed Microshaft Winblows spell checker failed me.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

As always, the Scriptures are of guidance here. The first mention of fools appears in 2Sa:3:33: And the king lamented over Abner, and said, Died Abner as a fool dieth? (He actually croaked with a knife between his ribs but that’s by the by.)

We therefore see that the fool appeared on Earth after the Flood. Thus it is clear that God did not create the fool but free will was taken to the extreme and some people chose complete, full-blown, ocean-going, state-of-the-art stupidity as a lifestyle.

Landover’s outreach to the feeble minded is perhaps best summed up in Proverb:12:15: The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. (lovely verb “hearkeneth”, isn’t it?)

God’s advice is Proverb:26:5: Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. And I do believe we do that.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

Praise God!

God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned.--2 Th.2:11-12

[Atheist_Sinner]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

My question: Are people Unsaved because they are stupid, or does God make them stupid because they are Unsaved? Or is there some other reason for this glaringly-obvious correlation?

Since you asked for some alternatives:

• The illiterate saved may see no reason to post larger, more complex responses and stick to a short message of support for his/her brethren because the literate saved here are numerous enough to respond to everything.
• Or most of the unsaved who actually post here could be angry about something, making them too impatient to re-check their posts.
• Or intelligent unsaved people don't see a reason to post here as often.

There is no doubt that a lot of people coming here are incapable of or unwilling to make understandable posts in reasonably well-formed English. I don't know exactly what it is about this place but it does seem to attract angry, illiterate atheists like moths to a lightbulb. I'll admit that the religious people here who aren't True Christians® do seem in general to be calmer than my fellow atheists. There is nothing that shames us atheists more as a group more than those of us who cannot disagree without anger. I don't know why they do it unless its some desire like religions to "spread the true belief (or lack thereof)."

[Justina Thyme]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

We therefore see that the fool appeared on Earth after the Flood. Thus it is clear that God did not create the fool but free will was taken to the extreme and some people chose complete, full-blown, ocean-going, state-of-the-art stupidity as a lifestyle.

Amen, Brother!

Landover’s outreach to the feeble minded is perhaps best summed up in Proverb:12:15: The way of a fool is right in his own eyes: but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise. (lovely verb “hearkeneth”, isn’t it?)

It certainly is. They simply don't make them like they used to.

God’s advice is Proverb:26:5: Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit. And I do believe we do that.

The Holy Scriptures are the Source of all knowledge. Praise!

[SinisterPizza]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

• Or intelligent unsaved people don't see a reason to post here as often.

I'll go with that one then old , those of us who can actually make posts in English and say something other than "OMG, U people Suck lyke so much & r gonna go 2 hell If the're wuz a hel!!" seem to have other things to do a lot of the time.

(forgive the horrible impersonation of angry semi-literate netspeak users)

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

I'll go with that one then old , those of us who can actually make posts in English and say something other than "OMG, U people Suck lyke so much & r gonna go 2 hell If the're wuz a hel!!" seem to have other things to do a lot of the time.

(forgive the horrible impersonation of angry semi-literate netspeak users)

Indeed, indeed, I agree, they should be reading KJV1611 or following the excellent thread - "The bible in a Year" or dying their hair a reasonable color.

[JennyD]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

I'll go with that one then old , those of us who can actually make posts in English and say something other than "OMG, U people Suck lyke so much & r gonna go 2 hell If the're wuz a hel!!" seem to have other things to do a lot of the time.

(forgive the horrible impersonation of angry semi-literate netspeak users)

Miss Italian Dinner of Questionable Motives, I believe your impression of the average unsaved poster on God's Favorite Forum is dead on.

You seem to know the enemy well, yet still remain unsaved. Why? Surely, you've been here long enough to have learned of Jesus!

[Ahimaaz Smith]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

Since you asked for some alternatives

AS, I think it was a rhetorical question.

I don't know exactly what it is about this place but it does seem to attract angry, illiterate atheists like moths to a lightbulb.

I like this analogy. It likens athiests to moths. The moth thinks it is flying toward the light, but it winds up getting burned in the end.

There is nothing that shames us atheists more as a group more than those of us who cannot disagree without anger.

Except, of course, your rejection of Jesus.

[Atheist_Sinner]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

AS, I think it was a rhetorical question.

I thought about that too but isn't a rhetorical question usually a question which you already know the answer and believe there could only be one answer to? I would have thought that "other" would have been a choice on the poll if the poster actually considered it a possibility. Anyway, I figured that nothing is lost by answering it just in case the poster actually asked a question for the purpose of gaining knowledge (aka: an answer).

Except, of course, your rejection of Jesus.

Thats odd... it doesn't cause me to experience any shame. I'd imagine most atheists are similarly shameless about their beliefs (or lack thereof) or they wouldn't still have them. The same goes for the Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Christians, etc.

I think you might be talking about shaming, which is an entirely different animal. Shaming is associating people with a particular belief or action believed to be "wrong" in some way by the party committing the shaming. The target of shaming, however, may or may not experience shame.

[Dr. Santiago Solo]

Re: Which came first, Unsavedness or Stupidity?

Blah, blah, blah...

Why, you should be ashamed of yourself