[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

Apparently her most recent victory that she proposed and then voted against (so technically she won) - makes a new law forbidding England from leaving the EU without a deal, which she said was the only alternative to her plan.

It was cunning, wasn't it, to propose a motion and subsequently insist that her own party must vote against it, thus confusing the opposition (and many of her own supporters) into voting in favor of it. What a win for Mrs May! But, Dr Toole, you are 24 hours out of date. Perhaps news is no longer crossing the Channel, blockaded by your yellow jackets (which I always thought were a type of wasp)? There has been yet more voting today. I would explain it to you, but it is all perfectly clear, so it might appear patronizing to do so. Suffice it to say that it looks as though Mrs May will be bringing her original, twice-rejected plan back for a third vote, but probably not until next week as the ubiquitous joos prevent them from working on Fridays.

As you point out, President Trump has been most helpful and supportive throughout - as have the Irish, who have promised to change their minds, maybe.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

He also assured everyone that the USA will stay out of negotiations. You can't get fairer that that - what a gentleman! Now all the English should do is follow the simple instructions from The President

I was surprised to read in your link

…another government member resigned over her Brexit plans. Robert Courts said he quit as a parliamentary private secretary - an unpaid ministerial aide - at the Foreign Office to "express discontent"

I've highlighted the relevant detail. Discontent would seem to be putting it mildly.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

I was surprised to read in your link

…another government member resigned over her Brexit plans. Robert Courts said he quit as a parliamentary private secretary - an unpaid ministerial aide - at the Foreign Office to "express discontent"

I've highlighted the relevant detail.

Not really surprising, Sister. My husband heard he got a minimum wage job at McDonald's, and good for him! The business about "expressing discontent" is simply attention-seeking.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

I know about proposals for democracy without politicians where people are called up to serve, similar to jury service.
Wasn't there was a time when you simply bought a seat?
It was probably called something else, though.

. .http://www.online-literature.com/dickens/mutual/20/

Britannia, sitting meditating one fine day (perhaps in the attitude
in which she is presented on the copper coinage), discovers all of
a sudden that she wants Veneering in Parliament. It occurs to her
that Veneering is 'a representative man'--which cannot in these
times be doubted--and that Her Majesty's faithful Commons are
incomplete without him. So, Britannia mentions to a legal
gentleman of her acquaintance that if Veneering will 'put down'
five thousand pounds, he may write a couple of initial letters after
his name at the extremely cheap rate of two thousand five
hundred per letter. It is clearly understood between Britannia and
the legal gentleman that nobody is to take up the five thousand
pounds, but that being put down they will disappear by magical
conjuration and enchantment.

The legal gentleman in Britannia's confidence going straight from
that lady to Veneering, thus commissioned, Veneering declares
himself highly flattered, but requires breathing time to ascertain
'whether his friends will rally round him.' Above all things, he
says, it behoves him to be clear, at a crisis of this importance,
'whether his friends will rally round him.' The legal gentleman, in
the interests of his client cannot allow much time for this purpose,
as the lady rather thinks she knows somebody prepared to put
down six thousand pounds; but he says he will give Veneering
four hours.

http://www.online-literature.com/dickens/mutual/1/

[Basilissa]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

There is a little bit of a flap in Britain about "shortages" of various items post-Brexit. Diabetics are busy stockpiling chocolate and sugar to counter the planned absence of insulin, while the rest of the population appears to be buying baked beans. Anyone crazy enough to be planning a visit should be warned to avoid enclosed spaces after 29th March.

I admit that I have filled one of the barns with packs of toilet tissue. But as far as vegetables are concerned, we are entirely self-sufficient thanks to the polytunnels which my husband so wisely installed before the Brexit vote.

Well, Sister Joanna, if your family does suffer a shortage of any particular item after Brexit, please do not hesitate to ask. The church will send you care packages with anything you might need. As a bonus, we will also include some Trump-signed Bibles, which is the kind of support that our President personally delivers to victims of natural disasters here in the U.S.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

Well, Sister Joanna, if your family does suffer a shortage of any particular item after Brexit, please do not hesitate to ask.

Thank you, Sister. I worry that there may be a blockade of US goods, though. We are particularly concerned about sourcing canned cheese. My husband has just gotten off the phone after a very angry call from some guy at Washington State, where they manufacture Cougar Gold. It seems that they've been told that Mrs May is trying to play hardball over Cheddar cheese - having long ago lost the argument with the Europeans to give it "protected" status, in the sense that it could only be labeled Cheddar if it was actually made in Cheddar (which is a place in England - who even knew?).

Now this is the sort of issue that could escalate and block the entire US-England trade deal, which could be the end of the Brexit dream! Please pray for us.

[Basilissa]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

Thank you, Sister. I worry that there may be a blockade of US goods, though. We are particularly concerned about sourcing canned cheese. My husband has just gotten off the phone after a very angry call from some guy at Washington State, where they manufacture Cougar Gold. It seems that they've been told that Mrs May is trying to play hardball over Cheddar cheese - having long ago lost the argument with the Europeans to give it "protected" status, in the sense that it could only be labeled Cheddar if it was actually made in Cheddar (which is a place in England - who even knew?).

Now this is the sort of issue that could escalate and block the entire US-England trade deal, which could be the end of the Brexit dream! Please pray for us.

Well, Sister, if canned cheese is your definition of happiness, I'm sure something can be arranged via diplomatic couriers. I will also include some classic Kraft processed cheese-like products as well.

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

The beclogged prime minister of the Dutch lands has likened Mrs May to the black knight in the Monty Python movie who, having had his arms and legs cut off in a fight, refused to concede defeat and said "Let's call it a draw". Fair comment. But the most surprising thing is that he (the Cloggie) appears to have intended this as a compliment, as he praises her resilience and persistence in the face of never-ending failure.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

But the most surprising thing is that he (the Cloggie) appears to have intended this as a compliment, as he praises her resilience and persistence in the face of never-ending failure.

The only thing Mrs. May needs to know about whoever this drug smoker, AIDS riddled, Dutchess is that he - along with all Euroweenies - were singlehandedly rescued by Britain and Mrs. May personally in WWII (shhh we know it was America that won but let her think that for now). So there's typical weenie gratitude for you.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

Inspired presumably by Trump's assurances that the US will not get involved with the breakup of Britain and the EU, senior members of the Whitehouse have spontaneously inserted themselves into British and EU politics with forthright comments.

Donald Trump Jr and John Bolton berate UK leaders over Brexit

In an article for the Daily Telegraph, Trump Jr said May should have listened to his father’s advice over Brexit, saying that a “process that should have taken only a few short months has become a years-long stalemate, leaving the British people in limbo”.

And, speaking to Sky News, [John] Bolton accused UK politicians of failing to “give effect” to the Brexit referendum result.

Bolton added: “The president has been clear that he wants a resolution of this issue that allows the United States and Britain to come to trade deals again. He sees huge opportunity if Britain’s status can be resolved.”

The Brits should stop looking in their navel and start looking at the huge opportunity that trade partners are currently enjoying with America: tariffs unless you get in line now. And take your vermin back to your shit-hole. More than anything, the British should feel grateful that anyone in the USA actually cares if anything happens to them. If they're lucky they might get elevated from Jr to Kushner - as you recall, he is in charge of Middle East Peace, Reforming the Federal Government, Justice Reform, ordering donuts and some minor private matters with Qatar and Saudi Arabia buying his underwater investment properties bought at the peak of the market. Move along nothing to see here.

#AllAboutBritain #NotAboutTrump #DefinitelyNotADistractiionFromTheHouseInvestigati ons #NoiseNoiseNoise

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

Hell doesn't get invoked much in transnational politics. Europe is conjuring up a special magic version for Englishes but more pertinent to the issue in hand would be exactly, why? Is this an opening gambit? Or the last spouting of idiocy from a ruined foe.

Nobody wants to see coffins. But claims about what happens later directed at any nation whether Welsh or Hebridean or Atlantic or, let's face it, even the Cornish confronted with jibes will respond. How? again is not quantified but threats of subterranean consequences are not likely to upset the Cornish.

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

Slow day again in Brexit-land. The President Theresa May reached out directly to the people telling them "I'm on your side" while castigating the other 649 Congressmen in Parliament for failing to provide free ponies, rainbows and $350M/week for everyone. One partiularly weak-kneed individual cried out loud:

Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) I’ve thought long and hard before saying this, but @theresa_may knows that MPs across the House are subjected to death threats - some very credible. Her speech was incendiary and irresponsible. If any harm comes to any of us, she will have to accept her share of responsibility.

What a sissy! Come visit the United States - or any other civilized country, for that matter, like the Philippines, Russia or Turkey - and enjoy the spectacle of freedom loving people actively encouraged by the President to openly carry automatic weapons "to protect themselves" from hateful, socialist speech. If you love your freedom, you should stop talking right about now.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

I didn't know their Speaker was so musical. They do have a Speaker don't they?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

In the light of the current situation, the British parliament is currently (as I write) discussing the state of hospitals in Gaza. I think this goes some way toward explaining why Britain is where it is at this time.

Meanwhile in Europe, French leader Monsieur Macaron is being frightfully rude, even by French standards, about Mrs May. This is surprising as we all know he likes mutton dressed as lamb elderly ladies in youthful clothing. Perhaps she spurned his advances? Or is he just trying to distract his own people from the fact that their country is mostly on fire?

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Re: Which will last longer: Brexit dream or Trump presidency?

The DUP has just weighed in with support for President May. As you all know, the DUP is a political party in Northern Ireland known for it's competent handling of political matters. Interested readers can look at the follow link (the clue's in the title):

https://theconversation.com/theres-a-reason-why-northern-ireland-has-been-without-a-government-for-more-than-500-days-brexit-102297

According to a DUP spokesman, "the government has consistently settled for inferior compromises when they didn’t need to and when there was, and is, more negotiating with the EU to be done."

Unfortunately the DUP is the party that negotiated themselves out of having any government at all in Northern Ireland. President May must be just thrilled to receive their advice. She should feel particularly proud to have allied her own political party with one known for bringing down the government. Go DUP! Whoops oh no, I did it again. Another government brought down.