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  • JennyD
    Honorary True Christian™
    Sweet Placid Sister
    Forum Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 9567

    #1

    In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

    American Christians are up in arms because nasty, God-mocking atheists don’t want the US government to carve “In God We Trust” on the new Capitol Visitor Center. The American Family Association has sent an action alert; so has the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Which side are you on?

    Yesterday’s AFA Action Alert screams the latest terror: Anti-Christian bigots are trying to oppress the 78% Christian majority!
    Anti-Christian bigotry, like that which took prayer out of schools, is behind an effort to remove National Motto and Pledge of Allegiance.

    According to the Associated Press, the nation’s largest group of atheists and agnostics filed a lawsuit seeking to block an architect from engraving our national motto “In God We Trust,” and the Pledge of Allegiance at the Capitol Visitor Center (CVC) in Washington.

    Freedom From Religion Foundation’s (FFRF) lawsuit claims the taxpayer-funded engravings would be an unconstitutional endorsement of religion.
    AFA doesn’t try to deny this. They simply point out that “IGWT” has been the national motto since 1956, and the words “under God” in the Pledge since 1957, then asks you to sign a petition to promote their religion at the expense of other religions or nonreligion. And donate. (You can use Landover's PrayPal button at the bottom of the page instead of the AFA site, if you prefer to put your money to God's Work instead of Don Wildmon's!)

    Southern Florida’s Sun-Sentinel has an op-ed piece with a poll you can vote in:
    If it’s good enough for the currency, then the national motto “In God We Trust” is good enough for the U.S. Capitol Visitors Center.

    Of course, we now have the need-to-be-offended types — in this case the Freedom From Religion Foundation, suing to block that phrase from being engraved in the new U.S. Capitol Visitor’s Center. The atheist and agnostic group also wants the to block the engraving of the Pledge of Allegiance as well.

    The engravings will cost less than $100,000 of the center’s total $621 million price tag. Fighting this silly lawsuit will probably cost more than the engravings themselves.
    Yes, the fact that it’s cheap is a perfectly valid reason not comment. Why can't these taxpaying Americans who don’t trust in gods in general, or the majority’s specific god in particular, or liberal False-Christian Americans who aren’t interested in establishing a theocracy just shut up about it?

    Loudmouthed atheist PZ Meyers suggests that, since the Sun-Sentinel editors think the idea “innocuous”, there should be some additions to the carving:
    All right, I say this fellow needs to put his money where his mouth is. Let’s add “Praise be unto Allah”, “No gods, no masters”, and “Hail, Xenu!” to the center and to our money — think he’ll argue that it is all innocuous then?
    What, no "Cthulhu fhtagn", squid-lover?

    The Freedom from Religion Foundation (www.ffrf.org) begs God-mockers to get involved:
    Please object to the U.S. House of Representatives on its July 9 vote (410-8) to engrave “In God We Trust” and the (religious) Pledge of Allegiance on the main tourist entrances to the Capitol building. Religious leadership fervently criticized Congress for spending $621 million on a new Capitol Visitor Center without referencing “the nation’s religious heritage.” Rep. Dan Lungren (R-CA) sponsored the measure. The engravings will cost almost $100,000. The Senate approved an identical resolution as part of a spending bill earlier this week.

    Not only is it inappropriate for our secular government to have adopted a religious motto, it isn’t even accurate! To be accurate, it would have to say, “In God Some of us Trust,” and wouldn’t that be silly? “In God We Trust” was a latter-day motto adopted in 1956, at the height of the “Red Scare.” Fully 15% of the U.S. adult population now identify themselves as nonreligious (American Religious Identification Survey 2009). More than a quarter of young Americans (18-29 years) identify as nonreligious (Pew study 2008). For more background on the history of “In God We Trust,” click here.

    Likewise, the Pledge of Allegiance was devoid of religion for three generations. “Under God” was only inserted in 1954, at the behest of various religious campaigns. The addition of “God” to the pledge excludes many Americans, and is under litigation. For more information, click here.

    Educate the U.S. House of Representatives on the changing demographics of Americans, and why religion needs to stay out of government! FFRF urges you to write a short, polite, firm and signed message to your House Representative and Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. If you have time, you can make this the subject of a letter to the editor of your local paper.

    Please note: If your Representative voted against this resolution, please thank them for their steadfast support of the Constitution. We applaud the following eight representatives that voted ‘no’: John Conyers (D-MI), Donna Edwards (D-MD), Mazie Hirono (D-HI), Michael Honda (D-CA), James McDermott (D-WA), Ronald Paul (R-TX), Robert Scott (D-VA) and Fortney ‘Pete’ Stark (D-CA).
    Well, Christians, now we know what eight people to write to with our protest!

    Contact your Representative in the House
    http://www.house.gov/house/MemberWWW_by_State.shtml
    Speaker Nancy Pelosi
    Office of the Speaker
    H-232, US Capitol
    Washington, DC 20515
    (202) 225-0100
    Email Form

    You might also want to check out AFA’s IGWT project.

    You see, not only is the AFA hoping you'll sign their Godly petition (um, and donate, though Landover is definitely a better place to donate), but they also have a “special project” to amend state laws to permit and/or require the posting of the National Motto (IGWT) in schools.
    Many states have already adopted laws approving the posting of our national motto, “In God We Trust” in public buildings and school classrooms. Click on the links below to read your state statute:

    Arizona | Arkansas | Florida | Georgia | Indiana | Iowa | Kentucky | Louisiana | Michigan | Mississippi | North Carolina | Oklahoma | Tennessee | Texas | Utah | Virginia | West Virginia | U.S. Congressional resolution
    That’s right, no prayers in schools, but at least we can have a declaration of faith in the One True Deity. It's a start, folks!
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    Of course! This is a Christian nation, no matter what Jefferson said.
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    No! I'm a God-mocking atheist/agnostic/whatever.
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    No! I believe in a false god or gods, like Vishnu or Xenu or Zeus.
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    Yes, but only if mottoes representing all other religions are, too.
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  • Nobar King
    Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
    Christ's Guardian
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2007
    • 23748

    #2
    Re: In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

    I received that e-mail, too, Sister Jenny. Thanks for sharing that because it's important information for Christians to know about.

    I'll just go carve 'In God We Trust' on it myself. Everyone should. (Except the atheists.)

    Why do they hate God so much?
    May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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    • Rev. M. Rodimer
      Honorary True Christian™
      Forum Member
      • May 2008
      • 13996

      #3
      Re: In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

      I think it should be carved on the atheists, not the building. That way, they'll be reminded that this is a Christian nation every time they look in the mirror!

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      Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
      You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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      • Oakland "Reb" Griner
        True Christian™
        True Christian™
        • Jun 2009
        • 2241

        #4
        Re: In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

        How about a compromise:

        In Landover we trust !!



        Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are unGodly among them of all their unGodly deeds which they have unGodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which unGodly sinners have spoken against him.

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        • Brother Cletus
          Probably Saved
          Forum Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 157

          #5
          Re: In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

          What burns me up is all these Godless LIEberals wanting to spend billions on health care for Godmockers, but fight with all their might against sane and reasonable projects like this.

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          • Wash O'Hanley
            Debate Moderator (and participant)
            Master Debater-- Has Never Been Defeated in a Debate
            Louder Than Reason
            True Christian™
            • Sep 2006
            • 2126

            #6
            Re: In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

            What's the point of having a religion if you aren't allowed to post slogans about it all over the place? That would be like wearing a pair of Calvin Klein jeans without the label.
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            • Bobby-Joe
              Landover Security Superviser
              Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
              NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2006
              • 18405

              #7
              Re: In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

              If the atheists think God has nothing do with the country then perhaps they can explain how come it was God who wrote the Constitution? Come on monkey worshipers I am dying to her your story on this.

              Time to reclaim our FREEDOM from the “Mullah in Chief” and his growing activist voter hoards of socialists, communists, anti-Semites, anti-Christians, atheists, radical gays and lesbians, feminists, illegal immigrants, Muslims, anti-Anglo whites and others.

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              • Rev. Jim Osborne
                True Christian™ Televangelist
                Director of Fundraising and Tithing
                On the Look Out for Wife #6!
                True Christian™
                • Jun 2009
                • 8622

                #8
                Re: In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

                Why is this even a controversy? 410 yes, 9 no? Even the most liberal people like Nancy Pelosi voted in favor of this. Wouldn't even the most hardened atheist admit that there's no problem with this bill passing? All it says is "In God We Trust". Where's the harm? It's already on our money, and it's only going on one building.

                Sometimes I think these godless organizations like to raise a stink just to get publicity!

                Watch the #1 Televangelist Gospel Hour in the World! "Turn or Burn: Accept Christ or Go to Hell with Rev. Jim Osborne." Check your local cable listings.

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                • Ezekiel Bathfire
                  Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                  Christ's Rottweiler
                   
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 22898

                  #9
                  Re: In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

                  May I remark that the phrase, “In God We Trust” cannot be offensive or unconstitutional – if I write, “Bathfire Was Here”, it is a statement of fact.

                  If there is more than one mason carving the words and both “trust in God”, then this message is a statement of fact. To suppress it, is therefore a negation of free speech as enshrined in the Constitution.
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                  “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                  Author of such illuminating essays as,
                  Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                  • Pastor Isaac Peters
                    Senior Pastor
                    Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
                    Always Biblically correct
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 10639

                    #10
                    Re: In God We Trust at Capitol Visitor Center? AFA Says YES!

                    Of course we put our trust in God, and of course it should say so at the Capitol Visitor Center. It's just common sense: Everything that happens in the Capitol inspires Americans to put their trust in the Almighty to protect us.
                    This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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