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  • Random Man
    Unsaved trashwhiney emo
    • May 2009
    • 22

    #1

    KJV (1611)?

    Why is it that this is the only "true" word of God. Why can't people use other translations of the Bible? I've just seen a lot of you post this Bible when verses need to be quoted.
  • patriot4christ
    Unsaved trash
    Under Investigation
    • May 2009
    • 3

    #2
    Re: KJV (1611)?

    Originally posted by Random Man View Post
    Why is it that this is the only "true" word of God. Why can't people use other translations of the Bible? I've just seen a lot of you post this Bible when verses need to be quoted.
    You dont get to decide which version is right only Landover can because they are the only real Christians.

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    • Bryan Tamariki
      Forum Member
      Forum Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 285

      #3
      Re: KJV (1611)?

      "We hold that the Bible, the Holy Word of a Holy God, was not only free from error in the originals (which have been lost for centuries) but also we believe God in His Singular providential care has KEPT HIS WORD all through the ages, right down to the present day as found in the King James Version. We consider this version our final and absolute authority, above and beyond all other authorities on earth."

      Joshua 24:15
      And if it seem evil unto you to serve the LORD, choose you this day whom ye will serve; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the gods of the Amorites, in whose land ye dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the LORD.

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      • Rev. M. Rodimer
        Honorary True Christian™
        Forum Member
        • May 2008
        • 13996

        #4
        Re: KJV (1611)?

        Originally posted by Random Man View Post
        Why is it that this is the only "true" word of God. Why can't people use other translations of the Bible? I've just seen a lot of you post this Bible when verses need to be quoted.
        Follow this link for all the information you could possibly desire on the subject of false Bible translations.



        If you're interested in the New International Version (NIV) in particular, try this one:



        A quote to start you off:

        I get no scarcity of questions on the Bible. These questions come by phone—many by long distance, by visitors, and by mail. Many of the questions are regarding the confusing flood of new versions of the Bible. This is especially true in respect to the New International Version, commonly referred to as the NIV. Seeing the NIV is now being urged by many, I am repeatedly asked why I do not also advocate the use of the NIV version and use it in my work of soulwinning.

        As I believe it is my duty to give an answer, I will endeavour to pass on some clear and straight-forward reasons why I do not use the NIV, and never intend to use the NIV, in place of the time-honoured and sure King James Version.

        Here is Luke 4:4 in the King James Version. In the NIV the underlined words are cut out:
        Luke 4:4 "And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God."
        Luke 4:4 is not the only place where parts of the Word of God have been cut out. There are literally hundreds of omissions in the NIV.

        This omission in Luke 4:4 makes the statement of Jesus of little sense. "But by every word of God." Now we have it. The Scriptures are to stay. The Word of God is to feed us. We are to live by the Scriptures. Here Jesus is in conflict with the devil and in this statement our Lord is revealing the efficient weapon against sin and Satan.

        Is it not significant that this very mutilated version of Scripture cuts out the very passage that condemns it. This omitted passage condemns the NIV!

        Note again that our Divine Guide is showing that man is to live by "every word of God." If "every word" is vital and we need "every word" what can be said in favour of a professed version that omits a whole verse? Not only that but omits scores of passages. I will never use in my work a mutilated version, no matter how popular it may be. The "Scripture of Truth" closes with these important words:
        Rev 22:19 "And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
        I would fear to stand before the judgment bar of God, if I knowingly had used and upheld a version that had taken away from the Word of God.

        We should remember also that this solemn warning against taking "away from the words" of God’s Holy Book is given by none other than our Lord Himself.
        Bible boring? Nonsense!
        Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
        You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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        • Father Thomas Martin
          Pedantic Pubescent Pedophile Papist Proselytizer
          • Jul 2007
          • 1015

          #5
          Re: KJV (1611)?

          Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
          Follow this link for all the information you could possibly desire on the subject of false Bible translations.



          If you're interested in the New International Version (NIV) in particular, try this one:



          A quote to start you off:
          1. The NIV (and other translations) keep these words in Matthew's account of the Lord's temptation, just not Luke's. The KJV added these words to Luke's account!

          2. So, you can say Revelation 22:19 condemns the KJV then, because it takes out WHOLE BOOKS of God's Word!
          ACTS 5:29

          But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
          There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?

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          • Brother Guy Bayard
            Anvil of the Antipodes
            True Christian™
            • Jul 2007
            • 1271

            #6
            Re: KJV (1611)? Is the NKJV ok?

            This morning on my way to work, I took a wrong turn in an unfamiliar area. I pulled over, stopped, consulted my street directory, and found I was not too far from my destination. But, before I turned back onto the freeway, I noticed a 'book' on the side of the road, just up ahead of me...it wasn't just any book, however... it was a Bible! Yes thats right folks, it was in fact a copy of the New King James Version, the NKJV - the kind with the words of Jesus printed in red, open and flapping away like a madwoman beating a carpet at ...wait for it...the book of Ezekiel, specifically, Ezekiel 28:15 - The prophecy against Egypt. Is this significant? Does God hate Egypt? (I expect he does - it smells like sewage wrapped in mutton mostly anyway.)
            Naturally I looked inside the front cover and found that the owner is somebody by the name of Alain Ngarambe, and was awarded to him by a Peter H - as a reward for completing his baptism certificate, of the foundation of Faith.
            My questions are for Pastor Ezekiel.
            1. Should I notify the Church elders that this dark skinned heathen has discarded his Bible, or
            2. Should the Police or the Department of Faith be notified of an obvious crime ie. theft of a Bible?
            3. Does the 'New' in NKJV mean that this person is damned to Hell anyway, or is the NKJV acceptable ?
            4. Should 'Alain Ngarambe' be tracked down/notified and brought back into Gods fold?
            5. Is there any significance that the NKJV was open at 'Ezekiel'?
            6. Did God make me take a 'wrong' turn so I may find the copy of His Word?
            The devil, whose business is to pervert the truth, mimics the exact circumstance of the Divine Sacraments. He baptises his believers and promises forgiveness of sins...he celebrates the oblation of bread, and brings in the symbol of the resurrection. Let us therefore acknowledge the craftiness of the devil, who copied certain things of those that be divine."
            Tertullian (155-222 AD) from The Prescription Against Heretics' Ch XL

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            • Ezekiel Bathfire
              Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
              Christ's Rottweiler
               
              • Jan 2008
              • 22895

              #7
              Re: KJV (1611)?

              Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
              [...]

              2. So, you can say Revelation 22:19 condemns the KJV then, because it takes out WHOLE BOOKS of God's Word!
              You are going to speak about the Apocrypha aren't you? The very name sould give it away! It is apocryphal!

              (And who wants to read about some woman fingering mary's cooter anyway?)
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              “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

              Author of such illuminating essays as,
              Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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              • Father Thomas Martin
                Pedantic Pubescent Pedophile Papist Proselytizer
                • Jul 2007
                • 1015

                #8
                Re: KJV (1611)?

                Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
                You are going to speak about the Apocrypha aren't you? The very name sould give it away! It is apocryphal!

                (And who wants to read about some woman fingering mary's cooter anyway?)
                That's DEUTEROCANON to you.

                They're part of the Greek scriptures, just not the Hebrew ones (I thought you hated Jews). Both are still the Word of God either way!

                And you never bothered to answer my first question.
                ACTS 5:29

                But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
                There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?

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                • Ezekiel Bathfire
                  Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                  Christ's Rottweiler
                   
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 22895

                  #9
                  Re: KJV (1611)?

                  Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
                  [...]And you never bothered to answer my first question.
                  Simply because I thought you'd been at the altar wine again.

                  KJV was famously published in 1611 - I have no idea and no interest in when NIV was thrown, in a slap-dash way, into the printers hands by drunken monks, but it was later. Thus NIV is clearly wrong. It is wrong because it is not KJV.

                  If Jesus had had a Bible, it would have been KJV - end of story.
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                  “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                  Author of such illuminating essays as,
                  Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                  • Bobby-Joe
                    Landover Security Superviser
                    Asset Loss Prevention and Personal Security Expert
                    NOT angry and positively NOT Gay
                    True Christian™
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 18405

                    #10
                    Re: KJV (1611)?

                    Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
                    Simply because I thought you'd been at the altar wine again.

                    KJV was famously published in 1611 - I have no idea and no interest in when NIV was thrown, in a slap-dash way, into the printers hands by drunken monks, but it was later. Thus NIV is clearly wrong. It is wrong because it is not KJV.

                    If Jesus had had a Bible, it would have been KJV - end of story.
                    The heretical, Satan inspired NIV has first published in 1973. Needlessto say the it was written '60s, a decade were the entire world spent ten years spitting in the face of Jesus. It is basically a slap dash conglomeration of several so called "bibles" that the NIV (cough) scholars glued together in their cut and past fake bible.

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                    • Father Thomas Martin
                      Pedantic Pubescent Pedophile Papist Proselytizer
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 1015

                      #11
                      Re: KJV (1611)?

                      I DON'T USE THE NIV!

                      I use the NRSV.
                      ACTS 5:29

                      But Peter and the apostles said in reply, "We must obey God rather than men."
                      There you have it-so WHAT'S STOPPING YOU COWARDS?

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                      • Ezekiel Bathfire
                        Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                        Christ's Rottweiler
                         
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 22895

                        #12
                        Re: KJV (1611)?

                        The difference between an old rope and a new one...
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                        “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                        Author of such illuminating essays as,
                        Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                        • Pastor Ezekiel
                          Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                           
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 78556

                          #13
                          Re: KJV (1611)?

                          Originally posted by Father Thomas Martin View Post
                          I DON'T USE THE NIV!

                          I use the NRSV.
                          Why? What difference does it make to you? One false Bible is as good as the next.

                          Have you ever read THIS old sermon of mine? It might help sort out your Biblical confusion.
                          Who Will Jesus Damn?

                          Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                          Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                          Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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