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  • DemonOfTheFool
    Unsaved trash
    • Jun 2009
    • 1

    #1

    Man=Woman

    Does the bible not teach that men and women have equal roles and are thusly equal to each other? As it teaches that:

    "male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus"

    Also, if Eve was made from Adam- are they not made of the same- so as such are equal?

    I would appreciate some other views on this topic so that I can form an opinion given a balance of opinions and evidence for each side.

    Thanks
    Proverbs 1:26 I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear cometh; 1:27 When your fear cometh as desolation, and your destruction cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:
  • James Hutchins
    True Christian™
    Just a Regular Nice Guy
     
    • Jun 2009
    • 29443

    #2
    Re: Man=Woman

    !)Wrong
    2)This is not the place for this
    3)You really should follow forum rules
    4)You failed

    Have a super day!
    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
    Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
    Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
    Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
    Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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    • Ezekiel Bathfire
      Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
      Christ's Rottweiler
       
      • Jan 2008
      • 22839

      #3
      Re: Man=Woman

      Originally posted by DemonOfTheFailLolol View Post
      Does the bible not teach that men and women
      No, see 1st Corinthians 11:3 - 10
      have equal roles
      No
      and are thusly equal to each other?
      No
      As it teaches that:

      "male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus"
      You are quoting some travesty of God’s Word and will receive an infraction. Use KJV1611, which is inerrant.

      Ga:3:26: For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
      Ga:3:27: For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
      Ga:3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

      We see here that Paul speaks to the Galatians – he refers only to those who are Saved™ If you are Saved™ then you will obey the Word of God – The word of God rests also in 1st Corinthians 11:3 - 10

      Also, if Eve was made from Adam- are they not made of the same- so as such are equal?
      No. Eve was made as a helper for Adam, not an equal – a sort of minion for him.

      I would appreciate some other views on this topic so that I can form an opinion given a balance of opinions and evidence for each side.
      You will only get one opinion – God’s.
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      Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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      • MidwestCatLady
        Forum Member
        Forum Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 164

        #4
        Re: Man=Woman

        "You are quoting some travesty of God’s Word and will receive an infraction. Use KJV1611, which is inerrant.
        Ga:3:26: For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
        Ga:3:27: For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
        Ga:3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."


        This pretty much says we are EQUAL as long as we a) have faith in Christ, b) been baptized into Christ and c) are a human being - we are one in Christ. The word "neither" does not mean these above mentioned people are singled out from being part of Christ but means we are all products and one with Christ.

        You are going to have to pull out better KJ quotes than these. These CLEARLY state the obvious that men and women are equal depending upon their relationship with Christ.

        Notice the words themselves. "Wo-men". Did you know in the womb all eggs are female? Zygote, embryo, and fetal sex is determined from conception, when the spern enters the egg. Sperm contain either an XY set of sexual chromosomes, or an XX set. The XY's swim faster and are less influenced by mucosal ph and uterine changes, while the XX's live longer, thus the timing advantages for selecting sex of the fetus. Any zygote/fetus will be influenced by the amount of maternal estrogen, progesterone, or testosterone circulating within the maternal environment, but sexual genitalia per se is not changed from XX to XY or vice versa. It is indeed the male sperm that determines the sex of the fetus.

        We are different but equal in Christ's love. Perhaps not in our duties and abilities. It is your own leaders that want the word taken verbatim. This is verbatim. (I can see another red mark on the horizon for old MA and I actually like you Bathfire - you have kind words, like cats and provide thoughtful comments.)

        So, the equation is above need to written differently.
        sigpicGenesis 1:20-22
        21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

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        • Nobar King
          Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
          Christ's Guardian
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2007
          • 23748

          #5
          Re: Man=Woman

          Originally posted by MidwestAgnostic View Post


          So, the equation is above need to written differently.
          OK, Yoda.
          May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78552

            #6
            Re: Man=Woman

            Originally posted by MidwestAgnostic View Post
            "You are quoting some travesty of God’s Word and will receive an infraction. Use KJV1611, which is inerrant.
            Ga:3:26: For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
            Ga:3:27: For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
            Ga:3:28: There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."


            This pretty much says we are EQUAL as long as we a) have faith in Christ, b) been baptized into Christ and c) are a human being - we are one in Christ. The word "neither" does not mean these above mentioned people are singled out from being part of Christ but means we are all products and one with Christ.

            You are going to have to pull out better KJ quotes than these. These CLEARLY state the obvious that men and women are equal depending upon their relationship with Christ.

            Notice the words themselves. "Wo-men". Did you know in the womb all eggs are female? Zygote, embryo, and fetal sex is determined from conception, when the spern enters the egg. Sperm contain either an XY set of sexual chromosomes, or an XX set. The XY's swim faster and are less influenced by mucosal ph and uterine changes, while the XX's live longer, thus the timing advantages for selecting sex of the fetus. Any zygote/fetus will be influenced by the amount of maternal estrogen, progesterone, or testosterone circulating within the maternal environment, but sexual genitalia per se is not changed from XX to XY or vice versa. It is indeed the male sperm that determines the sex of the fetus.

            We are different but equal in Christ's love. Perhaps not in our duties and abilities. It is your own leaders that want the word taken verbatim. This is verbatim. (I can see another red mark on the horizon for old MA and I actually like you Bathfire - you have kind words, like cats and provide thoughtful comments.)

            So, the equation is above need to written differently.
            For a God-mocking atheist who rejects God's love, you sure seem overly-concerned about God's Holy Word.
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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            • Max Bayes
              True Christian™
              True Christian™
              • Mar 2009
              • 302

              #7
              Re: Man=Woman

              I think you'll find that God made men bigger than women. Without even consulting the bible, you can see that. It's science. I don't know if you've noticed this, but maybe you come from Chernobyl.

              Either way, your formula should read MEN>women. Even your precious Darwin would agree with that.
              BEHOLD!!!
              THE BUS TO DAMNATION!
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              • MidwestCatLady
                Forum Member
                Forum Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 164

                #8
                Re: Man=Woman

                Originally posted by Max Bayes View Post
                I think you'll find that God made men bigger than women. Without even consulting the bible, you can see that. It's science. I don't know if you've noticed this, but maybe you come from Chernobyl.

                Either way, your formula should read MEN>women. Even your precious Darwin would agree with that.
                Well, that proves why things do not work out for me. My man is at least six inches shorter than me. I tower over him like a giant, course I am nearly six feet tall. Is there anything in the KJ Bible about the fate I will suffer for earning more money than my man and being taller as well as making most of the decisions? Do I need to be on my knees more and quit my job to help him be a True Christian man?
                sigpicGenesis 1:20-22
                21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

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                • James Hutchins
                  True Christian™
                  Just a Regular Nice Guy
                   
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 29443

                  #9
                  Re: Man=Woman

                  Wear flats. Consider osteoporosis.





                  J/K about the osteoporosis. If you remind him that he is stronger and smarter than you, he may be able to forgive your 'shortcoming' of stature. Insist he never look up, only straight ahead. Hopefully that will please him.
                  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                  Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                  Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                  Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                  Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                  Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                  • lord warrior
                    Confirmed Enemy of God
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 406

                    #10
                    Re: Man=Woman

                    Originally posted by MidwestAgnostic View Post
                    Well, that proves why things do not work out for me. My man is at least six inches shorter than me. I tower over him like a giant, course I am nearly six feet tall. Is there anything in the KJ Bible about the fate I will suffer for earning more money than my man and being taller as well as making most of the decisions? Do I need to be on my knees more and quit my job to help him be a True Christian man?
                    We here believe that the world would be a better place if women spent more time on there knee's, and tending to there husbands needs.

                    PS: a you the wife who beats up her husband, talked about in the other thread?

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                    • confedchick
                      Forum Member
                      Forum Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 105

                      #11
                      Re: Man=Woman

                      Originally posted by DemonOfTheFool View Post

                      Also, if Eve was made from Adam- are they not made of the same- so as such are equal?
                      You just answered your own question, there "Eve was made from Adam". They were not bit made at the same time from the same stuff but Eve came later FROM Adam, therefore Adams comes first and will always be superior.
                      To love, honor and OBEY!

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                      • Ebenezer Wright
                        True Christian™
                        True Christian™
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1021

                        #12
                        Re: Man=Woman

                        Women aren't even allowed to speak up in the Chuch, and if they have a problem, they better go to their husband(Her leader).

                        1 Corinthians 14:34-35
                        34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
                        Gather around so that I can read to you from my book of TRUTH. Genesis thru Revelations....Pick one!

                        Luke 12:5- But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.

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                        • MidwestCatLady
                          Forum Member
                          Forum Member
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 164

                          #13
                          Re: Man=Woman

                          Originally posted by lord warrior View Post
                          We here believe that the world would be a better place if women spent more time on there knee's, and tending to there husbands needs.

                          PS: a you the wife who beats up her husband, talked about in the other thread?
                          Dear me, no. I submit to him. He's my guy! Well, and I am trying to submit to the Will of God. We were just discussing my behavior last night regarding how bitchy and outspoken I get. At first he was not very happy about me being here at LBC. I explained the KJ version and a woman's place and it made him quite happy!

                          (He like me in heels although I would prefer flats.)
                          sigpicGenesis 1:20-22
                          21And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

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                          • DeadonDemonDrool
                            Unsaved trash, Pervert Witch Scum
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 42

                            #14
                            Re: Man=Woman

                            Originally posted by DemonOfTheFool View Post


                            Also, if Eve was made from Adam- are they not made of the same- so as such are equal?


                            Thanks
                            Actually, I have to step in here.

                            Lilith was the first wife of Adam, they were created from the same dust. Because of this, Lilith wanted to be considered equal with Adam, while Adam wanted to over power Lilith as, evidently, God had intended. So, Lilith was thrown out of Eden and Eve was created from Adam. Lilith became demon, any hopes of feminism for the next several thousands of years were destroyed and the rest of the content of the bible played as you know it did.

                            Just wanted to throw my two cents out there.

                            BTW, this is one of the many reasons I am a Non-Christian.

                            Now, argue with me (You know you're going to anyway just because I'm Unsaved Trash)

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                            • Pastor Ezekiel
                              Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
                               
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 78552

                              #15
                              Re: Man=Woman

                              Originally posted by DeadonDemonswings View Post
                              Actually, I have to step in here.

                              Lilith was the first wife of Adam, they were created from the same dust. Because of this, Lilith wanted to be considered equal with Adam, while Adam wanted to over power Lilith as, evidently, God had intended. So, Lilith was thrown out of Eden and Eve was created from Adam. Lilith became demon, any hopes of feminism for the next several thousands of years were destroyed and the rest of the content of the bible played as you know it did.
                              Please post the Scripture that backs up your ridiculous claims.

                              Originally posted by DeadonDemonswings View Post
                              Just wanted to throw my two cents out there.
                              In your case, less than that.

                              Originally posted by DeadonDemonswings View Post
                              BTW, this is one of the many reasons I am a Non-Christian.
                              And you're proud of that?

                              Originally posted by DeadonDemonswings View Post
                              Now, argue with me (You know you're going to anyway just because I'm Unsaved Trash)
                              First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

                              Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

                              Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome.

                              I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.
                              Who Will Jesus Damn?

                              Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

                              Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

                              Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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