[Pastor Rune Enoe]

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Genesis 3:6 6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.

Genesis 3:12 12And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

Does it say she forced him?

No, it says she tricked him. Let me point out what seems to be so incomprehensible to you:

Initially Eve did not know the meaning of sin - that's why SATAN (cleverly disguised as a talking snake) was able to cheat her and make her break God's command.

Once she had eaten from "the tree of knowledge of good and evil", she could no longer claim to be ignorant. And yet she WILLFULLY proceeded to cheat her own husband (who was still innocent) and to cause his downfall.

That makes Eve just as guilty as Satan himself.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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So you admit God is male then? Praise!

I don't believe in your god. I said the bible was written by a huMAN.

No, it says she tricked him. Let me point out what seems to be so incomprehensible to you:

Initially Eve did not know the meaning of sin - that's why SATAN (cleverly disguised as a talking snake) was able to cheat her and make her break God's command.

Once she had eaten from "the tree of knowledge of good and evil", she could no longer claim to be ignorant. And yet she WILLFULLY proceeded to cheat her own husband (who was still innocent) and to cause his downfall.

That makes Eve just as guilty as Satan himself.

Really, PD?
This passage which you've so conveniently left out suggests otherwise:

Genesis 3:7 7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

So you see, it suggests they ate around the same time, that the knowledge came to them both about the same time. It does not mention Eve's eyes being opened first.

[lilith]

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Listen, you trollop! Poor Adam had no concept of good or evil until that whore Eve wrapped her hairy legs around his head and forced him to eat the apple under pain of asphyxiation. She and SATAN had a deal going, you understand? And when GOD found out about it He rightfully punished Eve and ALL women for eternity to be the property and chattel of men to teach them who is boss! Now get to groveling before I have to knock some sense into you, and your little dog, too!

"Poor Adam?"
As you're all so fond of telling us men are stronger (physically) than women,I do rather wonder why suddenly you now claim Eve overpowered him?

And my "little" dog's more likely to eat you for breakfast.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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"Poor Adam?"
As you're all so fond of telling us men are stronger (physically) than women,I do rather wonder why suddenly you now claim Eve overpowered him?

She caught him by surprise. He was no doubt asleep when she sneaked up on him.

And my "little" dog's more likely to eat you for breakfast.

Bah. I'm not afraid of cross-eyed New Zealand Shelties, OR their dogs.

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

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Really, PD?
This passage which you've so conveniently left out suggests otherwise:

Genesis 3:7 7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

So you see, it suggests they ate around the same time, that the knowledge came to them both about the same time. It does not mention Eve's eyes being opened first.

It wasn't I who conveniently left out the verse. I just quoted your post.

Nowhere does it say that their eyes were opened at the same time: In verse 3:6 it says "she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat". Even if they ate in the same verse, it doesn't follow that they ate at the same time.

In verse 1:27 it says, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Following your logic, man and woman would have been created simultaneously since the process is contained within one verse. In fact we know that Adam was created first, since God needed his rib to make Eve.

1st Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1st Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

[Bobby-Joe]

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"Poor Adam?"
As you're all so fond of telling us men are stronger (physically) than women,I do rather wonder why suddenly you now claim Eve overpowered him?

Ramming your mommy cave into some poor guy's face so he is too distracted by physical urges to think hardly counts as a physical contest harlot. It says more the ghastly depravity of Eve that it would occur to her to introduce an apple to such an intimate situation right after demanding such an unnatural union from Adam.

And my "little" dog's more likely to eat you for breakfast.

That is a disgusting suggestion woman. It's supposed to be Adam and Eve, not Adam and Rover.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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It wasn't I who conveniently left out the verse. I just quoted your post.

Nowhere does it say that their eyes were opened at the same time: In verse 3:6 it says "she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat". Even if they ate in the same verse, it doesn't follow that they ate at the same time.

But it suggests that their eyes were opened around the same time. It does not say that Eve's eyes were opened first and I'm sure it would have if they'd meant that.

In verse 1:27 it says, "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them." Following your logic, man and woman would have been created simultaneously since the process is contained within one verse. In fact we know that Adam was created first, since God needed his rib to make Eve.

1st Timothy 2:13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
1st Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Irrelevant.
It suggests that their eyes were opened around the same time. It doesn't say 'then Eve's eyes they were opened and she saw she was naked and she gave unto Adam and said eat' it says 'the eyes of THEM BOTH were opened and THEY knew that THEY were naked'.

[lilith]

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Ramming your mommy cave into some poor guy's face so he is too distracted by physical urges to think hardly counts as a physical contest harlot. It says more the ghastly depravity of Eve that it would occur to her to introduce an apple to such an intimate situation right after demanding such an unnatural union from Adam.



That is a disgusting suggestion woman. It's supposed to be Adam and Eve, not Adam and Rover.

Your mind is truly an...interesting place,BJ.


And Pastor Al..."Adam was asleep?"

So basically what you're saying is that he was slacking off once again.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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Your mind is truly an...interesting place,BJ.


And Pastor Al..."Adam was asleep?"

So basically what you're saying is that he was slacking off once again.

He didn't have anything to do in the garden of Eden except take naps and drink beer. The fishing pole hadn't been invented yet and there weren't enough men to make up a baseball team or enough women for mud wrestling. When Eve handed him that apple, the poor man thought it was just another cute container for beer.

[Fish (On Moderation)]

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He didn't have anything to do in the garden of Eden except take naps and drink beer. The fishing pole hadn't been invented yet

The fishing pole hadn't been invented but there was beer?

[lilith]

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He didn't have anything to do in the garden of Eden except take naps and drink beer. The fishing pole hadn't been invented yet and there weren't enough men to make up a baseball team or enough women for mud wrestling. When Eve handed him that apple, the poor man thought it was just another cute container for beer.

Of course he did.
I've always suspected Adam was a bit on the dim side - you just confirmed it.

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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Of course he did.
I've always suspected Adam was a bit on the dim side - you just confirmed it.

There is nothing 'dim' about it! If a woman hands a man something it had better be either a beer or dinner.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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There is nothing 'dim' about it! If a woman hands a man something it had better be either a beer or dinner.

You forgot to mention a remote control

[Pastor Al E Pistle]

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You forgot to mention a remote control

I don't watch HELLevision, so I don't need a remote control. I spend all of my time reading the Bible.

[Rachael Van Helsing]

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I don't watch HELLevision, so I don't need a remote control. I spend all of my time reading the Bible.

I would have thought you would have watched Benny Hymn or whoever that guy is...? Or some all Jesus channel?