[Jedediah]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Does it not say in the bible Jesus hates No One and loves Everyone?

Why don't you tell us? If you're going to make such bold assertions, you could at least back them up with relevant Scripture.

Off the top of my head:

Leviticus 20:23
And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Leviticus 26:30
And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.

Deuteronomy 32:19
And when the LORD saw it, he abhorred them, because of the provoking of his sons, and of his daughters.

Psalm 5:5
The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Psalm 10:3
For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and blesseth the covetous, whom the LORD abhorreth.

Psalm 11:5
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Proverbs 6:16-19
These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 22:14
The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.

Hosea 9:15
All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Zechariah 11:8
Three shepherds also I cut off in one month; and my soul lothed them, and their soul also abhorred me.


Also see this post.

[Cornelius Blaze]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

wot if your child is a Godless Mod or rocker?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

wot if your child is a Godless Mod or rocker?

Just beat the child until it is a True Christian™. This might be helpful: Cranky Old Man's Easy Guide to RAISING CHILDREN!

Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

Proverbs 23:13-14 "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

[Cornelius Blaze]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Just beat the child until it is a True Christian™. This might be helpful: Cranky Old Man's Easy Guide to RAISING CHILDREN!

Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

Proverbs 23:13-14 "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

All sounds a bit mental really. I mean, one kid likes to wear nice Italian suits and the other one black leather. Its a nightmare at dinner time.

[DAVIE!]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Just beat the child until it is a True Christian™. This might be helpful: Cranky Old Man's Easy Guide to RAISING CHILDREN!

Proverbs 13:24 "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes."

Proverbs 23:13-14 "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

So you believe physically abusing a child will make them see sense? You my friend, are a dick...No offense, but when that child (you physically abused) grows up...he will just beat the living shit out of you, it happens in many families.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

So you believe physically abusing a child will make them see sense? You my friend, are a dick...No offense, but when that child (you physically abused) grows up...he will just beat the living shit out of you, it happens in many families.

None of my 9 sons (or grandsons) ever beat me. So I know from experience that you are talking nonsense.

[Malice]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

[QUOTE=Jedediah;670733]Why don't you tell us? If you're going to make such bold assertions, you could at least back them up with relevant Scripture.

Yes it does say He loves everyone and hates no one.
Mathew 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate you enemy'
Mathew 5:44 But I say to you,love your enemies,bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you.
See? Jesus loves us all not JUST Christians and tells us to do the same.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

[QUOTE=Malice;672146]

Why don't you tell us? If you're going to make such bold assertions, you could at least back them up with relevant Scripture.

Yes it does say He loves everyone and hates no one.
Mathew 5:43 "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate you enemy'
Mathew 5:44 But I say to you,love your enemies,bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you.
See? Jesus loves us all not JUST Christians and tells us to do the same.

Jesus has no use for non Christians.
Luke 4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

[Malice]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

[QUOTE=James Dewitt;672159][QUOTE=Malice;672146]
Jesus has no use for non Christians.
But you should not hate them either.

[Cursed]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Jesus has no use for non Christians.
But you should not hate them either.

Why not?

It's not judgmental to follow the Word of the LORD GOD.

God hates non-Christians, and even most self-proclaimed liar "Christians" for that matter.

Only True Christians™ are loved by GOD. The rest are a babbling fecund cancer worthy of eternal Hell fire.

But rejoice! Would you have it any other way?

Imagine a Heaven that let in thieves, fornicators, liars, murderers, sexual deviants, cripples, and other twisted perversions of God's perfect creation.

Can you imagine a clubfooted gay Mexican midget in Heaven? No, sir, you cannot. Only the most deluded of schizophrenics could conceive of such a thing.

You know your own true thoughts, my friend. Your secret self, that you hide from all around you. The real you.

You know the real you is a disgusting abomination unworthy of Heaven. Admit it. You're as worthless as I am.

I will see you in Hell, Malice, and we shall suffer together forever. Heaven will be wide with great open spaces, but Hell will be packed and standing room only. There will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth, such terrible pain that we cannot conceive of it.

Still, it is better than we deserve.

Please note that I am not a True Christian™ Bible Scholar, and my opinions and thoughts are bereft of value without their beneficent approval.

[Coconn111]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Surelly tip 37 is a big enough tip.....:/

[Lily (toiletmouth) Walsh]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Why not?

It's not judgmental to follow the Word of the LORD GOD.

Because god loves his creations. He loved us enough to make us in his image, and maybe he's trying to bring them back to Monotheism and then Christianity. I don't think God gives up on us. Imagine you're a parent (whether you are or not is irrelevant, it's all hypothetical), your child is rebelious and refuses to listen to you. Do you give up on them and abandon them in a dark alley-way (or sense I was recently informed that Baptists believe 100% of the Bible, do you stone them?) and give up? If so, I pity your hypothetical child.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Because god loves his creations. He loved us enough to make us in his image, and maybe he's trying to bring them back to Monotheism and then Christianity. I don't think God gives up on us. Imagine you're a parent (whether you are or not is irrelevant, it's all hypothetical), your child is rebelious and refuses to listen to you. Do you give up on them and abandon them in a dark alley-way (or sense I was recently informed that Baptists believe 100% of the Bible, do you stone them?) and give up? If so, I pity your hypothetical child.

Of course we don't stone them even though that is precisely what the Bible calls for. We have to obey the laws as they currently are for now.

What did Jesus say to do with people who won't listen?

Matthew 10:14-15 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Is Your Child A Goth?

Because god loves his creations.

"Jesus does not hate anyone."

That's not true. God hates the sin AND the sinner, and Jesus is God (John 10:30 I and my Father are one.).

Lev 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Please read the WHOLE Bible before it's too late.

Before you complain about the the fact that the verses I cited were from the Old Testament, as if that somehow makes them worthless, consider this:

In the Old Testament, it says that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5).

In the New Testament, what does Jesus say that he is going to do to these workers of iniquity? Is he going to love them? Is he going to be their pal, and tell them that it's ok to be themselves? Let's see...

Matt 13:41-42 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth

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I pray that you have found this enlightening.

[-Caron-(stage name "Sierra")]

Re: Is Your Child a Godless Goth?

Listed below are some warning signs to indicate if your child may
have gone astray from the Lord. Gothic (or goth) is a very obscure
and often dangerous culture that young teenagers are prone to
participating in. The gothic culture leads young, susceptible minds
into an imagined world of evil, darkness, and violence. Please seek
immediate attention through counselling, prayer, and parental
guidance to rid your child of Satan's temptations if five or more of the
following are applicable to your child:

1-Frequently wears black clothing.
2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
Satanic worshipping symbols.
5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music.
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.
8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the
Bible, prayer, church or sports.
9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
10-Takes drugs.
11-Drinks alcohol.
12-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.
(This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God
and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.)
14-Complains of boredom.
15-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
16-Is excessively awake during the night.
17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
19-Spends large amounts of time alone.
20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child
may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)
21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult.
22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders
are but a few examples of this.
23-Misbehaves at school.
24-Misbehaves at home.
25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this.
26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires
believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and
should be stopped immediately.)
27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature.
29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer.
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
32-Expresses an interest in sex.
33-Masturbates.
34-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
35-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism,
Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
36-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various
phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
37-Claims to be a goth.

If five or more of these apply to your child, please intervene
immediately. The gothic culture is dangerous and Satan thrives within it.
If any of these problems persist, enlist your child into your local mental
health center.

1-Frequently wears black clothing.
2-Wears band and/or rock t-shirts.
3-Wears excessive black eye makeup, lipstick or nailpolish.
4-Wears any odd, silver jewelry or symbols. Some of these include:
reversed crosses, pentagrams, pentacles, ankhs or various other
Satanic worshipping symbols.
5-Shows an interest in piercings or tattoos.
6-Listens to gothic or any other anti-social genres of music.
(Marilyn Manson claims to be the anti-Christ, and publicly speaks against
the Lord. Please discard any such albums IMMEDIATELY.)
7-Associates with other people that dress, act or speak
eccentrically.
8-Shows a declining interest in wholesome activities, such as: the
Bible, prayer, church or sports.
9-Shows an increasing interest in death, vampires, magic, the occult,
witchcraft or anything else that involves Satan.
10-Takes drugs.
11-Drinks alcohol.
12-Is suicidal and/or depressed.
13-Cuts, burns or partakes in any other method of self-mutilation.
(This is a Satanic ritual that uses pain to detract from the light of God
and His love. Please seek immediate attention for this at your local
mental health center.)
14-Complains of boredom.
15-Sleeps too excessively or too little.
16-Is excessively awake during the night.
17-Dislikes sunlight or any other form of light. (This pertains to
vampires promoting the idea that His light is of no use.)
18-Demands an unusual amount of privacy.
19-Spends large amounts of time alone.
20-Requests time alone and quietness. (This is so that your child
may speak to evil sprits through meditation.)
21-Insists on spending time with friends while unaccompanied by an
adult.
22-Disregards authority figures; teachers, priests, nuns and elders
are but a few examples of this.
23-Misbehaves at school.
24-Misbehaves at home.
25-Eats goth-related foods. Count Dracula cereal is an example of
this.
26-Drinks blood or expresses an interest in drinking blood. (Vampires
believe this is how to attain Satan. This act is very dangerous and
should be stopped immediately.)
27-Watches cable television or any other corrupted media sources.
(Ask your local church for proper programs that your child may watch.)
28-Plays videos games that contains violence or are of a role-playing
nature.
29-Uses the internet excessively and frequently makes time for the
computer.
30-Makes Satanic symbols and/or violently shakes head to music.
31-Dances to music in a provocative or sexual manner.
32-Expresses an interest in sex.
33-Masturbates.
34-Is homosexual and/or bisexual.
35-Pursues dangerous cult religions. Such include: Satanism,
Scientology, Philosophy, Paganism, Wicca, Hinduism and Buddhism.
36-Wears pins, stickers or anything else that contains these various
phrases: "I'm so gothic, I'm dead", "woe is me", "I'm a goth".
37-Claims to be a goth.


1-4: My typical outfit is black skinny jeans, a Voltaire or Creature Feature shirt, combat boots and my silver sword necklace.
8: I love the occult.
14: I get bored easily.
15-16: I sleep during the day because I work at night.
18-20: I like being alone with my boyfriend, because I'm not a people person.
31: LOL I get paid for it, too
32: Only with my boyfriend
34: So I'm kinda into chicks; what does that have to do with being goth?

Huh, I must be goth.