[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

- - stuff - - ..of reinforcing what YOU see as a choice but I KNOW to be innate.. etc.

God did not create anyone a sex pervert, which seems to be what you're talking about. Additionally He defines what a sex pervert is. That is where we get our information from. We're not expressing opinions.

Your other comments have gotten me to stop and think - not walk on by. Curious to learn more, keen to read the scripture supporting what you said. Love you to post some.

Hope you see this and respond,

Mitza Lizalor (Miss).

[Missionary in Sweden]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Is it really adultery when either party isn't willing? If it isn't then it wouldn't go against the commandments.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Is it really adultery when either party isn't willing? If it isn't then it wouldn't go against the commandments.

How do you work that out?

Does it just feel right in your head or are there some scriptural justifications for your morals?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

How do you work that out?

Does it just feel right in your head or are there some scriptural justifications for your morals?

Zoidberg is reasoning 1 + 1 = 3

3 being the minimum number of parties to adultery

[Missionary in Sweden]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Zoidberg is reasoning 1 + 1 = 3

3 being the minimum number of parties to adultery

Yes, of course. Thanks, for helping me clear that up. So then a single man can correctively rape a lesbian? No risk for adultery.

What I meant was; sexual intercourse before marriage is of course forbidden. But is corrective rape really sex? Isn't it simply trying to spread God's word and help heal the world? Isn't the "rapist" simply carrying out a form of spiritual healing?

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Explain to me how this volatile "solution" would actually serve to "change" me...or help me?!? Intelligent replies ONLY...please leave your ego in check...that kind of machismo is what keeps people from giving ANY credence to what you say.

ToughChic, have you actually tried this "volatile "solution""? It seems a little ironic to me that the True Christians of this forum are being constantly accused by all sides of ignoring evidence and science (not, that I've noticed, by you admittedly) but here where there is a solid and testable theory being put forwards by them it is dismissed out of hand.

I'm certainly not saved. I'm trying, but I am not there yet. So it may be that I've misunderstood the situation here, but thats how it seems to me.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Yes, of course. Thanks, for helping me clear that up. So then a single man can correctively rape a lesbian? No risk for adultery.

What I meant was; sexual intercourse before marriage is of course forbidden. But is corrective rape really sex? Isn't it simply trying to spread God's word and help heal the world? Isn't the "rapist" simply carrying out a form of spiritual healing?

Scripture or all you are posting is meaningless babblings from your own thoughts and who wants to hear those!

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Scripture or all you are posting is meaningless babblings from your own thoughts and who wants to hear those!

If I could try to help the Doctor here.

Obviously if the rapist is doing so in lust then it is adultery (Matthew 5:27-28 makes no mention of only applying to married men.) And there a are a string of relatives and relatives through marriage that would be prohibited by Leviticus.

I think on balance though the Doctor may be mistaken and that comitting such an act even for good reasons is still a sin Romans 3:8.

Therefore, I believe he would still owe the fifty sheckels and have to take the (hopefully cured) woman as his wife as he cannot avoid the punishment (Proverbs 11:21).

But what do I know? Are there any True Christian scholars able to give advice?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

If I could try to help the Doctor here.

Obviously if the rapist is doing so in lust then it is adultery (Matthew 5:27-28 makes no mention of only applying to married men.) And there a are a string of relatives and relatives through marriage that would be prohibited by Leviticus.

I think on balance though the Doctor may be mistaken and that comitting such an act even for good reasons is still a sin Romans 3:8.

Therefore, I believe he would still owe the fifty sheckels and have to take the (hopefully cured) woman as his wife as he cannot avoid the punishment (Proverbs 11:21).

But what do I know? Are there any True Christian scholars able to give advice?

JUDGES 21:1,16-17,20-23
1 Nowe the men of Israel had sworne in Mizpeh, saying, There shall not any of vs giue his daughter vnto Beniamin to wife..

16 ¶ Then the Elders of the Congregation said, How shall we doe for wiues for them that remaine? seeing the women are destroyed out of Beniamin.
17 And they said, There must be an inheritance for them that bee escaped of Beniamin, that a tribe be not destroyed out of Israel..

20 Therefore they commanded the children of Beniamin, saying, Goe and lie in wait in the vineyards.
21 And see, and behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to daunce in daunces, then come yee out of the vineyards, and catch you euery man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh, and goe to the land of Beniamin.
22 And it shall bee when their fathers or their brethren come vnto vs to complaine, that we will say vnto them, Bee fauourable vnto them for our sakes: because we reserued not to each man his wife in the warre: for yee did not giue vnto them at this time, that you should be guiltie.
23 And the children of Beniamin did so, and tooke them wiues according to their number, of them that daunced, whome they caught: and they went and returned vnto their inheritance, and repaired the cities, and dwelt in them.
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In this beautiful example of God's love for those whom He loves and of His provision for the Israelites it is clear that having lain in wait and pounced upon any women of interest that the Benjaminites married them. This pouncing activity cannot in any way be construed as "rape" however much the lesbian community tries to depict God in a negative light. Well, they would wouldn't they. Do note the highlighted sections: there was no complaint from the women themselves mentioned - just the possibility of a token objection from their previous owners.

To the heathen there are so many shades of grey, in all matters it would seem including "forced" marriages. The Bible disagrees. There are no shades of grey tere is only Black. And White. Everything God does is White. Everything else iS Black.

I do not have any comment or opinion to contribute here Miss Moore but hope this simple scripture is helpful to you.

WHOLE CHAPTER HERE

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

MitzaLizalor: that simple little passage, to my simple little mind, makes the point perfectly.

Had GOD commanded true believers to attempt to convert lesbians through forced intercourse, it would of course not be rape. As He hasn't, it would and the punishment for doing so must apply.

Thank you so much for sharing that with me. It seems I've overcomplicated the matter (this is what happens when women try logic). I just thank Jesus that he guided me towards the correct solution anyway.

[Roberta]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

MitzaLizalor: that simple little passage, to my simple little mind, makes the point perfectly.

Had GOD commanded true believers to attempt to convert lesbians through forced intercourse, it would of course not be rape. As He hasn't, it would and the punishment for doing so must apply.

Thank you so much for sharing that with me. It seems I've overcomplicated the matter (this is what happens when women try logic). I just thank Jesus that he guided me towards the correct solution anyway.

Dear Sister Catherine,

I am going to begin practicing reparative therapy at a renown clinic in Lake Elmo, MN next week. Do you cam? You could be my first patient!

God did not choose lesbianism for you. (Perhaps you would be willing to share what is was that led you astray.) With help and prayer, I promise to reorient you and introduce you to the world where Godly values prevail. When you are ultimately filled with the love of Jesus Christ, the devil will no longer hold sway.

Catherine a husband, little Catherines, PTA and a minivan can all be in your future. Please do not continue living as a pariah.

Yours in Christ,

Roberta

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Roberta, I am....overwhelmed. To have such a generous offer, with only having been here such a short time. I am truly grateful.

Of course I'll come. I'd love to be your first patient - you can practise on me as much as you need to. And I'll share anything you ask of me.

I'm so excited I'll probably start packing right away. Is there anything we'll need?

I can't wait to see more of you!

Yours in Christ

Catherine

[Roberta]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Dear Sister Catherine,

Rowan Williams has been a vocal advocate of Sharia law; I fear for your physical safety as well as your immortal soul. Saajid Badat's release is a bellwether of the pendulum's swing.

The last time I shopped on Oxford Street I saw shops selling niqads and Selfridges had its own tattoo parlor. On Portabello Road I heard arabic singsong but very little American being spoken. London was once a cultural pinnacle but now fish and chips are playing second fiddle to felafel. They sell hummus at Pret a Manger while the muezzin wails from atop the BT Tower.

Soon they will be conducting public lashings and stonings in Covent Garden. You and I both know that LGBT, adulterers and blasphemers will be among the first punished. Time is of the essence, sweet Catherine. I do not have my license yet so I cannot treat you legally in Minnesota. We can initiate your conversion by Skype, though, and I will ask one of our UK brethren to help you find an evangelical Baptist congregation. A support group of loving Christians will help you to purge the self destructive demons infecting your feminine psyche.

I pray that the blood of the Lamb of God will wash your sins away dear friend. Until then, please try not to succumb to your lustful yearnings.

Me in Lake Elmo,

Roberta

[Catherine Moore]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Rowan Williams seems, to my eyes, to be on a personal quest to offend the Lord in as many different ways as possible. While I have never personally witnessed him making a tickmark against a long list of perversions and sins when he comes out with a new insane pronouncement I have no reason to believe it is not the case.

I shall have to ask the advice of one of the men on this forum about installing Skype. One of the often overlooked drawbacks of my former sinful lifestyle is that there are numerous jars in our house that cannot be opened, shelves that are lopsided, programs uninstalled on the laptop and other such tasks left undone. Why I didn't realise that living without a man was hard for a reason is beyond me.

But once that is done, I can't wait to begin the process. Do we have many brethern in the UK? I have spoken briefly with one member of this forum who shares this land with me but haven't noticed many others.

YIC

Catherine

[Ineedcorrectiverape]

Re: Corrective 'rape' for Lesbians.

Hello. I am a lesbian, and I think I need this. Please help.