[MitzaLizalor]

Re: I feel the eternal damnation closing in on me

Who was that, that posted in my thread?

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HANDY HINT

Originally Posted by Timothy Parker
I am merely answering questions that forum members are asking.

(except that you're not answering, you're asking)

I am actually quite selfless and speak of God quite frequently, mostly in the workplace where it's usually unwelcome due to multiple cultures/races/religions being there.
I am a soldier of God, and even if the members of this forum don't accept me or the fact I am a soldier, I will keep on living, speaking of God wherever I go, and fighting un-winnable battles. Why? because it makes me feel good knowing I'm doing God's work wherever I am.

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Originally Posted by Timothy Parker
Asking me about the churches values?

No.

I didn't make them nor to I stake claim to them.
I simply attend that church because I enjoy volunteering time in a house of God.

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Originally posted by Timothy Parker
By seeking answers, I misrepresent myself?

You misrepresent yourself by not answering them

etc..

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The next quote links to an obviously mohammedan clip of some description which I have removed. I didn't watch it.

Originally Posted by Timothy Parker
This was JUST brought to my attention, and it does raise a few questions.
Well... one in particular.
Can Jesus lie?

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Hope that helps.

[Timothy Parker]

Re: I feel the eternal damnation closing in on me

Perhaps you ought to enquire which God that church is a house of?

Are you implying theres more than one God?

I believe there is only one true God.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: I feel the eternal damnation closing in on me

There are lots of made up Gods. Many of the people who made them up say that they are the one real God. However, one thing you can be sure of is that all those made up Gods are different and none of them match God of the Bible.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: I feel the eternal damnation closing in on me

Are you implying theres more than one God?

I believe there is only one true God.

I won't bother to point out that when you say "..there is only one true God" you convey that you consider other gods to be NOT true gods, because I was suggesting that you enquire what that Church believes so that you can compare it with The Bible.

PSALM 27
4 One thing haue I desired of the Lord, that will I seeke after: that I may dwel in the house of the Lord, all the dayes of my life, to behold the beautie of the Lord, and to inquire in his temple.
5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pauilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me, hee shall set me vp vpon a rocke.
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What would happen if in the time of trouble you sought sanctuary in His pavillion only to discover too late that you'd fled to a srtonghold of syncretistic secularism leading to everlasting torture?

I Thessalonians 5:21

[Timothy Parker]

Re: I feel the eternal damnation closing in on me

I won't bother to point out that when you say "..there is only one true God" you convey that you consider other gods to be NOT true gods, because I was suggesting that you enquire what that Church believes so that you can compare it with The Bible.

PSALM 27
4 One thing haue I desired of the Lord, that will I seeke after: that I may dwel in the house of the Lord, all the dayes of my life, to behold the beautie of the Lord, and to inquire in his temple.
5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pauilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me, hee shall set me vp vpon a rocke.
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What would happen if in the time of trouble you sought sanctuary in His pavillion only to discover too late that you'd fled to a srtonghold of syncretistic secularism leading to everlasting torture?

I Thessalonians 5:21

not really here to discuss semantics.

you implied there was more than one God, as did I (after I reread my statement, I caught it too).

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: I feel the eternal damnation closing in on me

not really here to discuss semantics.

you implied there was more than one God, as did I (after I reread my statement, I caught it too).

Nobody is. We are here to praise God.

Psalm 145:9 The Lord is good to all: and his tender mercies are ouer all his workes. All thy workes shall praise thee, O Lord: and thy Saints shal blesse thee. They shall speake of the glory of thy kingdome: and talke of thy power. To make knowen to the sonnes of men his mightie actes: and the glorious Maiestie of his kingdome.
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How is that possible in an environment where He is held to be a liar and where adoration of demons...

demon 1

Ezekiel 8:10

“..we are very committed to understanding the various ways that Jesus
reveals himself in different cultures. This means not only being sensitive
to the needs of different cultures but also actively seeking to learn from
different ways of worshipping God and relating to each other.” your "church"

demon 2

II Kings 21:6

“To contrast with another approach, we are not as interested in
convincing people that a certain set of beliefs is true.” your "church"

demon 3

Jeremiah 44:17

“The easiest way to understand what "centered-set" means is to contrast it with
"bounded set." "Bounded set" is a religious system in which all people are classified
as "in" or "out" and the primary goal is to get people from the outside in.
..many people don't find religious categories to be very helpful.” your "church"

...is actively sought out despite God's clear commandment that anyone who does so is an abomination deserving to be slaughtered, whose wives should be slaughtered, whose children should be smashed to pieces (except virgin daughters who may be slaves to Godly men) and whose unborn children should be ripped alive out of their mothers' bellies?

ABOMINATION: God explains in Ezekiel 8 that when people start "learning from different ways of worshipping" they become repugnant filth. Everyone who reads The Bible knows that. God shows Ezekiel people who are worshipping some "revelation" from a "different culture" and describes their behaviour like this:

Ezekiel 8:6 He said furthermore vnto me, Sonne of man, seest thou what they doe? euen the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth heere, that I should goe farre off from my sanctuarie? but turne thee yet againe, and thou shalt see greater abominations.
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God had told The Israelites EXACTLY how to worship Him. They thought they knew better.

Ezekiel 8:9-13 And he said vnto me, Goe in, and behold the wicked abominations that they doe heere. So I went in and saw, and behold euery forme of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel purtrayed vpon the wall round about. And there stood before them seuentie men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the middest of them stood Iaazaniah the sonne of Shaphan, with euery man his censer in his hand, and a thicke cloud of incense went vp. Then said he vnto me, Sonne of man, hast thou seene what the ancients of the house of Israel doe in the darke, euery man in the chambers of his imagery? for they say, The Lord seeth vs not, the Lord hath forsaken the earth. Hee said also vnto me, Turne thee yet againe, and thou shalt see greater abominations that they doe.
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Throughout Ezekiel God displays His lovingkindness. He knows what happens when people start "learning from other cultures" and does not want that outcome for His people: Luke 13:34. Nevertheless certain base types will agitate for satan, promoting demon worship and all the abominable filth associated with orgiastic idolatry.

All these things provoke God to anger. In Jeremiah 44 God demonstrates the consequences of exploring ways to "worship God" from "other cultures" despite His commandments, with their depraved temple prostitutes and queens of heaven:

Jeremiah 44:16-17, 22-28 As for the word that thou hast spoken vnto vs in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken vnto thee. But we will certainly doe whatsoeuer thing goeth forth out of our owne mouth, to burne incense vnto the queene of heauen, and to powre out drinke offrings vnto her, as we haue done, we and our fathers, our kings and our princes in the cities of Iudah, and in the streetes of Ierusalem: for then had we plentie of vitailes, and were well, and saw no euill . .
So that the Lord could no longer beare, because of the euill of your doings, and because of the abominations, which yee haue committed: therefore is your land a desolation, and an astonishment, and a curse without an inhabitant, as at this day. Because you haue burnt incense, and because yee haue sinned against the Lord, and haue not obeyed the voyce of the Lord, nor walked in his law, nor in his statutes, nor in his testimonies: therefore this euill is happened vnto you, as at this day. Moreouer Ieremiah sayd vnto all the people, and to all the women; Heare the word of the Lord, all Iudah, that are in the land of Egypt. Thus saith the Lord of hostes the God of Israel, saying: Yee and your wiues haue both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hand, saying; We will surely performe our vowes that we haue vowed, to burne incense to the queene of heauen, and to powre out drinke offrings vnto her: yee will surely accomplish your vowes, and surely performe your vowes. Therefore heare yee the word of the Lord, all Iudah that dwell in the land of Egypt, Behold, I haue sworne by my great Name, saith the Lord, that my Name shal no more be named in the mouth of any man of Iudah, in all the land of Egypt, saying, The Lord God liueth. Behold, I will watch ouer them for euill, and not for good, and all the men of Iudah that are in the land of Egypt shalbe consumed by the sword, & by the famin, vntil there be an end of them. Yet a small number that escape the sword, shall returne out of the land of Egypt into the land of Iudah: and all the remnant of Iudah that are gone into the land of Egypt to soiourne there, shall know whose wordes shall stand, mine or theirs.
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If you want to know what your Church means by their words you need to ask them.

God's Word in The Bible (on the other hand) is quite clear.

[TrumpetBlastOfGod]

Re: I feel the eternal damnation closing in on me

The avatar was changed (not by me) after my very first post, which I have mentioned in this introduction thread. (did not link to it though as I feel it was a bit hasty and without thought/reason).

The profile image was to signify and symbolize how I feel about my faith and the lack thereof with eternal damnation closing in on me. This too was a bit hasty and I have changed it to a picture of the REAL me.

Come...Love Awaits You

3/5/05 From Our Lord and Savior, Jesus The Christ -
A Letter Given to Timothy, For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear


Timothy, write these words to the nations, so they may hear and know.

The Lord God, Creator of Heaven and earth, has come. Even now am I, The Savior, The Holy One of Israel, in your midst. I am also coming quickly in full power and great glory. I bring with Me absolute authority, to judge and destroy the wicked and he who is called wicked in his ways. Also will I bind him who has deceived many and caused My lambs to go astray. All these things have been ordained from the beginning by The Father. For His glory will all that is written come to pass, and those things written of the end become manifest in the earth, the sky, the sun, the moon and the stars... For the time is upon you, My children.

Return to your First Love...
The Love that formed you... The Love that held you...
The Love, that desired for you to be made in His image...
The Love that loves you...
The Love, that wants to be with you, forever...


Come now, accept My love.

It was out of love that I gave Myself for you, nothing held back. It is My love for you that brings Me back to save you from, and take you out of, that which has hurt you. My love for you is great, so great that I will recreate the entire world for you, so in love you may reside with Me forever. There is no greater love than that of The Father for His children, and so it is manifest through His only Begotten for you, oh peoples of the earth. His love knows no bounds, for it is as the universe, even more so. Therefore, how much more will be His anger and wrath against those who have hurt, persecuted, stoned, scourged, imprisoned, murdered and torn the flesh of His beloved? Do you not know you are His treasure, His most precious gemstones? I have come to do all that He asks, concerning those He loves and who love Him... I come to hide away those special ones, who have the light of His love in them, who have accepted He who The Father of Love had sent in love, for love’s sake, to die for all. Oh you peoples of the earth, turn from your wicked ways, and accept the love of The Father through His Son.. For His love is so great for you, that He will remember your sin no more, and cast away your iniquities.

I, The Son, carry full power and authority as The Father...

Still I plead with you, come!...


Come to Me and be healed, for The Father’s love is without end.

So much is His love for you, that He will risk losing you, so you may choose for yourself... Either to love your God... Or to His eternal anguish, love yourself and the ways of the world, which leads to destruction and death. Love is a gift, freely given and freely accepted. You can not have love when it is forced upon you. This leads to hate, and is contemptible in His sight.
The Father’s will is that none are lost. He has also given you the will to choose. His love, and that of The Son, is near to everyone... You only need take My hand... I will lead you from the valley of the shadow of death, into the light of salvation.

Take My hand, take My hand, all peoples... Grasp it, and come with Me as you are.


Come, all those who know not My ways... I will show you.


Come, all those who have been abandoned...

I will comfort you and give you shelter.


Come, all those who are crippled...

Let us run and leap for joy together.


Come, all those faithless...

I shall fill your cup, and watch how it overflows.


Come, all murderers...

Watch Me raise you, and all who sleep, from the grave.


Come, all you who blaspheme... I will give you a new voice.

Bring with you all those who are blind and deaf, for they too shall see and hear.


Indeed, come all those who have sinned against Me... Take My hand...

I will lead you to the waters, where I shall wash you,
And where your new clothes hang upon the tree, which grows next to the stream.


Come one, come all... Ask, and it shall be given you.


All things are possible with God, and made manifest through The Son.

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Those, Who Are Mine, Shall Never Be Cast Off


9/16/10 From YahuShua HaMashiach - The Lord’s Words Spoken to Timothy, During an On-Line Fellowship - For Jason, and For All Those Who Have Ears to Hear

Regarding Matthew 19:28, which says, “So Jesus said to them, ‘Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when The Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel’ ”, Jason had asked if Judas would be one of those twelve?


[YahuShua answered] My son, you consider things very deeply, considering that which others pass over. And because of your zealousness are you chosen, should you embrace this calling fully... Receiving also temperance unto peace, according to the Spirit of Truth.Yet what of another, who has been called also, who refuses to walk according to My purpose? Shall he continue in that office, though his heart testifies against himself, with his actions bearing fruit of the same?... My son, he shall not... Yea, his calling shall be given to another, and as long as he lives he will indeed serve Me, yet no longer in the office for which he was called at the first.

Therefore, hear and understand the loving mercies of God, fulfilled in Me,
Even of those bitter tears shed over those whom I have loved...
Yes, even all these who continue to deny Me, by all they say and do:


In My hurt I have cast them to the side, appointing others to run in their stead...

Yet I tell you the truth, though they indeed abide,
As one sitting along the wayside, they are in no wise cast off...

For our bond is love, and any bond forged in My love can never be broken,
For it is indeed made of the finest of threads and is held together by My strength...

YES! By the power of My love, which has overcome all things!

Behold, even among this flock, I have received many kisses, according to the kisses of My son, Judas... Tears and great hurt, our hearts torn... Yet I tell you the truth, I have never lost one who is Mine!... Judas is Mine! Abir is Mine! James is Mine! I am in love with My own, and from them I NEVER depart, though their hearts have betrayed them and they did run... Far from Me... With many deceptive words, lying to themselves, giving heed to seducing spirits.Therefore, I tell you plainly, My son: Judas will indeed be in the Kingdom of My Joy, and you shall call him friend, and he shall be to you a close brother indeed... For he repented in sincere remorse, with many tears, even unto death... Behold, he shall surely live! For I have loved him, even as My own son.

And though the weight of sin can be very heavy,
And remorse over betrayal can slay your hearts,
Even to the point of death...

My love is greater still!...

And I will never turn away anyone who comes to Me.

So then, upon these thrones, which you have considered yet do not fully comprehend, will the twelve apostles sit judging the twelve tribes of Israel... Yet Judas shall not be among them... Yet I tell you the truth, he shall indeed be standing there, even close at hand, and he shall be at peace... Having spent many days wailing upon My bosom.



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