[Dr Laurence Niles]

I prefer simple reading.

Well being a girl (probably) I guess that can't be helped.
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[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

I would like to thank everyone who has been patient with me so far. I am still new to this site and getting my head around how this site works.

You are all great people. Although there are some things I disagree with I'll stay with you and try to learn a few things through you guys. I apologise for any inconvenience or annoyance I may have caused whilst settling in.

Love LadyRaven

[Redeemed Papist]

I'm greatly misunderstood on this site. If you were talking to me when I first turned goth then maybe I'd identify. I go to a Church that accepts my gothiness.

This explains why you are whining so much. You are used to being among people who just want you to have the same opinions as them regardless of if you are going to Hell. They like the sound of their own voices and make things up that sound a bit like the Bible that fit their agenda.

We, however, don't care if you like us and tell you the Truth(R). Only we are unafraid to show you God without papering over the bits that jibe with secular Satan worship.

This makes you uncomfortable because instead of beating the goth out of you your parents failed you and left you to fall into the clutches of wishy washy false Christians while looking like a pierced panda.
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[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hey there

I would like to thank everyone who has been patient with me so far. I am still new to this site and getting my head around how this site works.

You are all great people. Although there are some things I disagree with I'll stay with you and try to learn a few things through you guys. I apologise for any inconvenience or annoyance I may have caused whilst settling in.

Love LadyRaven

Well you can start by dropping the false pretense of calling yourself "lady raven." What kind of nonsense is that? I'll bet your name is SueEllen Wagner or something like that.

Come clean. Give up the snobbish pretense. Tell us who you really are.

[Vavoline Johnson]

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Hi, my name's Raven and I'm a Christian goth attempting to make it known that goth's are not evil they are just ordinary people with darker interested to the world and need to be accepted instead of rejected. I go to a big church in Australia now called Influencers Church.
I'm doing bible college at the mo and am enjoying it.

If you don't beleive me then thats fine. I got a warning earlier for speaking my mind. Probably because I'm not 100% fully aware of your standing compared to mine.

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I'm already beginning to think I've overstayed my welcome. How can I get my point across without being misunderstood as a flamer? So please any advice would be appreciated.

Looking forward to hearing your responses.

Hmmm, did you eber think that maybe u aint no Black Goth and you is jist a Negro?

[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

Fine.

You asked for it. I go by the name of Raven (even though it's really Sarah). I AM a goth, I love the darker side of life whilst straying from the evil things such as witchcraft, Wicca and other such things.
I love black roses! That was random.
Negro? What is in the galaxy is that?

Why can't people see the beauty in saying thankyou? Well at least I know what to expect now.
I am an example of goth you will never be able to comprehend. The one that wears white (and blue because I can) to church to resemble been forgiven.
I expect you to come at me with something negative again probably only because I'm goth.
Goth is like any other community, you get your good kids and those bad guys that want to stir up trouble.
Looking forward to responding to your comments

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Hey there

I am an example of goth you will never be able to comprehend. The one that wears white (and blue because I can) to church to resemble been forgiven.

So you are a rubbish Goth?

I expect you to come at me with something negative again probably only because I'm goth.

Not because you are a Goth but because you will not let Jesus come inside you.

Goth is like any other community, you get your good kids and those bad guys that want to stir up trouble.
Looking forward to responding to your comments

Not true: Goths are not a community.

Where is your Town Hall, who is your Mayor, who passes your laws?

All I see is a bunch of kids hanging around the centre of town waiting till they are old enough to stop being Goths.

You seem like a nice sensitive kid who does not need to go to Hell

But that's where you are going if you don't feel the gentle touch of Christ, put on a decent dress, read the bible (KJV1611), marry and True Christian™, keep that yap of yours closed and give birth to as many soldiers of Christ as you can till your womb is dry and useless.

Is that too much for Jesus to ask? He died for you (for a while), don't you think you owe him something?

All the best.

[The Lord's Sword]

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Fine.

You asked for it. I go by the name of Raven (even though it's really Sarah). I AM a goth, I love the darker side of life whilst straying from the evil things such as witchcraft, Wicca and other such things.
I love black roses! That was random.
Negro? What is in the galaxy is that?

Why can't people see the beauty in saying thankyou? Well at least I know what to expect now.
I am an example of goth you will never be able to comprehend. The one that wears white (and blue because I can) to church to resemble been forgiven.
I expect you to come at me with something negative again probably only because I'm goth.
Goth is like any other community, you get your good kids and those bad guys that want to stir up trouble.
Looking forward to responding to your comments

1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Deuteronomy 22:5 says, "The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD your God."

You don't dress in modest apparel, against the wishes of God. You wear cloths of men, an abomination onto God. Please explain to me, why you think you don't have to listen to God? You aren't only disobeying Him, you're outwardly defying Him.

[LadyRaven]

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So you are a rubbish Goth?

Not true: Goths are not a community.

Where is your Town Hall, who is your Mayor, who passes your laws?

All I see is a bunch of kids hanging around the centre of town waiting till they are old enough to stop being Goths.

You seem like a nice sensitive kid who does not need to go to Hell

But that's where you are going if you don't feel the gentle touch of Christ, put on a decent dress, read the bible (KJV1611), marry and True Christian™, keep that yap of yours closed and give birth to as many soldiers of Christ as you can till your womb is dry and useless.

Is that too much for Jesus to ask? He died for you (for a while), don't you think you owe him something?

I thank you for your concern, but I learnt about goth from goth lady in her mid forties.
Most 'visible' goths are in their teens when they don't have jobs and can dress how they like. However as we get older and get jobs we have to tone down. Some feel like they have to move on, others stay true to the subculture. It's a community of people with like minded interests but different perspectives and ideas.
I have one question though, is the KJV different from the KJV1611. I've never seen or heard of the bible you use before now. Do you know where I can get it? I'm curious now.
Thank you.

[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Deuteronomy 22:5 says, "The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD your God."

You don't dress in modest apparel, against the wishes of God. You wear cloths of men, an abomination onto God. Please explain to me, why you think you don't have to listen to God? You aren't only disobeying Him, you're outwardly defying Him.

Define 'clothes of men'. I quite like to wear corsets and velvet dresses. I love the victorian fashion. You know, what they wore during the Victorian era.
You're first passage I've been looking over, I think it's okay to wear clothing like I do as long as I'm not proud of it. I wear corsets because I like them, not to look cool.
Nice name by the way.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

I thank you for your concern, but I learnt about goth from goth lady in her mid forties.
Most 'visible' goths are in their teens when they don't have jobs and can dress how they like. However as we get older and get jobs we have to tone down. Some feel like they have to move on, others stay true to the subculture. It's a community of people with like minded interests but different perspectives and ideas.
I have one question though, is the KJV different from the KJV1611. I've never seen or heard of the bible you use before now. Do you know where I can get it? I'm curious now.
Thank you.

The King James Bible of 1611 is the definitive book. It is the best book in the world because it is the Truth(tm) in book form.

If God took the form of a book (He could if He wanted) it would be the KJV (1611). I can't tell you how much it has changed my life to live exactly as God wants by following the bible (KJV1611) exactly.

I spent years wondering what God meant but it is all here in one glorious volume.

I can't tell how excited I am that you are showing and interest

If you could just read it (all) it would mean that you have a slim hope of Salvation(r)!

I'm so happy you have seen the light

Glory!
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[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

Please explain to me, why you think you don't have to listen to God? You aren't only disobeying Him, you're outwardly defying Him.

I do listen to him. He's just never brought that up. There's been so much other stuff that's had to go. Goth has changed so much for me. I'm not the kind of goth you think I am.
He's my everything. I know that, I wouldn't be alive today if he didn't want me here.
Trust me on that one.

[Andy Branch]

Re: Hey there

Hey Hey,

Never really saw the appeal of the Goth Culture myself, I suppose I am just old fashioned, I wrote poetry about the earth, I listen to Classical music, I like to read various books, of varying nature, I suppose that makes me a bit geeky, but what the heck

[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

The King James Bible of 1611 is the definitive book. It is the best book in the world because it is the Truth™ in book form.

If God took the form of a book (He could if He wanted) it would be the KJV (1611). I can't tell you how much it has changed my life to live exactly as God wants by following the bible (KJV1611) exactly.

I spent years wondering what God meant but it is all here in one glorious volume.

I can't tell how excited I am that you are showing and interest

If you could just read it (all) it would mean that you have a slim hope of Salvation®!

I'm so happy you have seen the light

Glory!
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Yes. I can only find a downloadable version. I live in Australia and I doubt I'll be able to find it in book form.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Hey there

God gave us the interwebs so we can read the bible (KJV1611) anywhere!

Get cracking!
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