[James Hutchins]

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just friends having a barbecue and good conversation. No sex acts of any kinds.



how else can one judge but by their own experiences and reasoning. I put faith in the word of God and he didn't make good on the promises. If then God does not or is not able to fulfill his promises, he is not a being worthy of worship. I don't pretend to know any universal truths, just what has been true in my life.

I'm also still interested in hearing an explanation on 1 Cor 10:13 and how it pertains to the situation. One of the forum introductory posts mentioned asking for official commentary on scriptural verses was acceptable.

Gnostic atheist is inherently a contradiction since confined my mortal reasoning and logic, one cannot KNOW there is no god, and I don't claim to KNOW anything of the nature of deity. I definitely do not consider myself a deist or a pantheist as both acknowledge a force even if it is not meaningful. I just don't believe that God is knowable or more importantly, knowing God is not important.

You're not on here to hear my opinions though, I'm just answering direct questions.

the idea of faith is having trust in what god has supposedly said and acting on it. Please, I'd appreciate your view of 1 Cor 10:13 or why it is not relevant to my situation.

You are in quite a pickle!
You do not know whether to believe in God or not yet you want His advice. Apparently He has given it to you before and you slapped it away. Just like you do following many secular laws. Why should He do it again? Doesn't it make more sense for Him to spend time on and with those that believe in Him?

Regarding:
1 Corinthians 10:13
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

What part of it do you not understand, seems pretty clear to me. Though I am utterly baffled why you'd care.

[PasstionateAgnostic]

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How is one supposed to continue in faith when sent a trial 'more than you can bear' despite earnest prayer and 100% effort to persevere.

[James Hutchins]

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How is one supposed to continue in faith when sent a trial 'more than you can bear' despite earnest prayer and 100% effort to persevere.

That is what faith is, friend. Faith does not have an end point. Faith is not a dog, that you think is your best friend until he steals your lunch and you have to shoot him.
You could be under a car, legs severed, bleeding out, praying to God. Laying there, you wonder why He does not save you. You loose faith, you blasphemy Him. You die and go to Hell. The reality is God PUT YOU under the car for a reason. That reason was not so He could save you. Bottom line is your life is not yours, it is His and you have no right to make demands or have any expectations other than if you have unerring faith, you will probably go to heaven. Stop being so selfish. Think about Gods needs.

[PasstionateAgnostic]

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That is what faith is, friend. Faith does not have an end point. Faith is not a dog, that you think is your best friend until he steals your lunch and you have to shoot him.
You could be under a car, legs severed, bleeding out, praying to God. Laying there, you wonder why He does not save you. You loose faith, you blasphemy Him. You die and go to Hell. The reality is God PUT YOU under the car for a reason. That reason was not so He could save you. Bottom line is your life is not yours, it is His and you have no right to make demands or have any expectations other than if you have unerring faith, you will probably go to heaven. Stop being so selfish. Think about Gods needs.

Alright James, this is I think a good place to end the discussion on a positive thought. I won't agree on this point since at some point you realize that blind obedience to something that is not true is not worth it. You believe I'll have a wake-up call that will be rudely shocking when I'm wrong, I hope one day you escape from the manipulative and mind-bending nature of religion. It is not an easy path to free yourself from false paradigms, but it is worth it. If God by definition is perfect and cannot sin, says something, and then does not fulfill his word, he is not god.

I was hoping for a unique perspective on the above verses, but it says what it says. In my mind and in my experiences, that scripture says 1+1 = 3, which just does not add up.

I've appreciated your feedback and comments, I know you don't hold us to be equals, but it'll all sort itself out in the end anyways, so that really doesn't matter in the present.

Best wishes and peace.

John

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Gnostic atheist is inherently a contradiction since confined my mortal reasoning and logic, one cannot KNOW there is no god, and I don't claim to KNOW anything of the nature of deity. I definitely do not consider myself a deist or a pantheist as both acknowledge a force even if it is not meaningful. I just don't believe that God is knowable or more importantly, knowing God is not important.

You're correct that gnostic atheism is illogical. It is, in fact, a faith position.

It sure sounds like you're an agnostic atheist, since agnostic theism is nothing but mental masturbation. "Is there a god? I don't know, and I can't know, but I believe there is anyway, because I think it's a good idea to believe in something"?

[James Hutchins]

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Alright James, this is I think a good place to end the discussion on a positive thought. I won't agree on this point since at some point you realize that blind obedience to something that is not true is not worth it. You believe I'll have a wake-up call that will be rudely shocking when I'm wrong, I hope one day you escape from the manipulative and mind-bending nature of religion. It is not an easy path to free yourself from false paradigms, but it is worth it. If God by definition is perfect and cannot sin, says something, and then does not fulfill his word, he is not god.

I was hoping for a unique perspective on the above verses, but it says what it says. In my mind and in my experiences, that scripture says 1+1 = 3, which just does not add up.

I've appreciated your feedback and comments, I know you don't hold us to be equals, but it'll all sort itself out in the end anyways, so that really doesn't matter in the present.

Best wishes and peace.

John

See friend, you are looking for a magical answer. It does not exist. The Bible is a plain and simple book. Much of life is the same way. Too many people try to read into everything and interpert what they imagine they see. In your closed mnd, 1+1 cannot = 3. In an open mind, it certainly can. As a child, I often wondered if other people saw things the same as I did. Did a blue sky to me also look blue to them or had they merely been trained to agree that a sky was blue.

[Art Speir]

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As for my daughter, I am bringing her up in a manner that 1. She has self-esteem not to be pressured into going beyond what she is comfortable. 2. She'll have mace and training to possibly prevent a boy from going further than she feels comfortable with. 3. She'll have a dad who is very attuned to what is going on in her life and able to offer advise in order to avoid severe consequences. 4. She'll know the consequences of her actions (such as drugs or unprotected sex) and 5. She'll know she's allowed to make mistakes yet retain family support.

That's what parents should do! I have three girls (and one child on the way). I love them all dearly and my eldest is taking karate classes.

[Cranky Old Man]

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That's what parents should do! I have three girls (and one child on the way). I love them all dearly and my eldest is taking karate classes.

Why on earth would a girl ever need Karate? How is karate going to help her to obey and serve her husband until the day Jesus kills her?

Ephesians 5:22 "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord."

Genesis 3:16 "Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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I was hoping for a unique perspective on the above verses, but it says what it says. In my mind and in my experiences, that scripture says 1+1 = 3, which just does not add up.

There is not mathg quoted in that verse of scripture; do you see pink hippogarrafs when you look around the room?

Sigh, the delusions of agnostics, atheists, free-thinkers(all are satanists) never cease to cause me to shake my head, as if I almost pity their ignorance.

2 Corinthians
4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

No, you do not think for yourself; you are under the control of the demons which inhabit you.

[Capt. Aaron Portway]

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That's what parents should do! I have three girls (and one child on the way). I love them all dearly and my eldest is taking karate classes.

You have a Chink daughter? How's that even possible? Are you married to a fishhead of some sort?