[James Hutchins]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Friend, you proved nothing. You mention that 23887 is a larger number than 500. Very good! But that means nothing regarding the distance the Sun and the Moon orbit the Earth.
'Satellites' are little more than ballons on a string. Piercing the upper firmament would be breaking into Heaven. God does not allow that.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Basically, if its written in the bible, then its true according to you lot. I want to pimp smack my computer.

You believe that your religion is right and all others are wrong. Doesn't leviticus 19:18 tell you to "love your neighbor" and doesn't the bible also say hypocrisy is a sin?

Hi! You are correct, the Bible is, and logically must be, correct. Here's why:

God is all-powerful and all-knowing, by definition. Right? Right!

Therefore, God knows exactly what the Bible says, and can change it in an instant if He so desired.

This means that the Bible must say exactly what God wants it to. Right? Right!


For the Bible to be inaccurate, one of the following conditions must exist:

• God is either not all-knowing or not all-powerful, and thus not much of a god.
• God knows the Bible is misleading us into Hell, and is malevolent.
• God doesn't care what we believe, in which case as a practical matter may as well not exist.
• God does not exist.

Which of these is your selection?

Bear in mind that if you choose to follow a different religion, like Islam or Wicca or Hinduism, the exact same conditions apply. If the BIBLE is incorrect, then the false gods of those false religions must meet one or more of those above conditions, for they are allowing us to be misled to Hell as well.

As for loving our neighbor; who is my neighbor? Back it up with Scripture.

[LostSucker]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Friend, you proved nothing. You mention that 23887 is a larger number than 500. Very good! But that means nothing regarding the distance the Sun and the Moon orbit the Earth.
'Satellites' are little more than ballons on a string. Piercing the upper firmament would be breaking into Heaven. God does not allow that.

You have contradicted yourself.
Ok, lets say the earth is flat and you're right and everything that you have just written is correct.
This also means that you agree that the moon orbits the earth, correct?

So please, enlighten me. How does this moon supposedly orbit something flat?
The moon would simply crash into the ground like a meteorite.
This proves the first law of physics. The moon orbits because of the gravitational pull of the earth. Also, if the moon orbits the earth every 27 days, then how does it become day or night between that 27 day hiatus?
This proves another point; The earth is spinning around and away from the sun.

You have finished junior high, right? Well then you should be very familiar with the story of Icarus and how he flew too close to the sun.
Lets assume that the sun is indeed 500 miles away.
Lets think back to the 60s. I wasn't born, but I can tell you that people have done it since. People have flown to the moon.
How can you not fry flying through the sun and going, supposedly, into heaven? Or do you claim that the moon is under 500 miles away?
Please over my argument before making baseless conjectures.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

You have finished junior high, right? Well then you should be very familiar with the story of Icarus and how he flew too close to the sun.

The story of Icarus is what is called a "myth". I expect they taught it in your "science" class alongside the myth of Evolution and other silliness?

[LostSucker]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Hi! You are correct, the Bible is, and logically must be, correct. Here's why:

God is all-powerful and all-knowing, by definition. Right? Right!

Therefore, God knows exactly what the Bible says, and can change it in an instant if He so desired.

This means that the Bible must say exactly what God wants it to. Right? Right!


For the Bible to be inaccurate, one of the following conditions must exist:

• God is either not all-knowing or not all-powerful, and thus not much of a god.
• God knows the Bible is misleading us into Hell, and is malevolent.
• God doesn't care what we believe, in which case as a practical matter may as well not exist.
• God does not exist.

Which of these is your selection?

Bear in mind that if you choose to follow a different religion, like Islam or Wicca or Hinduism, the exact same conditions apply. If the BIBLE is incorrect, then the false gods of those false religions must meet one or more of those above conditions, for they are allowing us to be misled to Hell as well.

As for loving our neighbor; who is my neighbor? Back it up with Scripture.

So pretty much you are saying that because the bible is god's word it must be true. OK then I choose number 3.
Is there any solid evidence that the bible was written by God? Not references back to the bible or faith in belief, I mean solid evidence.
And I thought that it wasn't meant to be literally your neighbor.
Although I do praise your efforts and how you are not crude and are very pleasant. Please take note that I'm not a homosexual, do not panic

However I do have another question.
Back in my elementary school days, I told my Religion Education teacher that I was indeed atheist and he says that it was perfectly fine. I had absolutely no problem in listening and reading what they taught me. Those Christians seem like they are actually better people than the people here at LOB and I think that if God were real, he'd let them in first.
When asked about homosexuals, I think his response would be,
"I don't really mind, its your choice and its ultimately your decision"

However if you ask about homosexuals on this forum, they give you one answer: "Jesus hates gays, you will burn".
To me, they are sounding a bit too faithful.
Based on what my RE teacher told me, is he a "real christian" or a fake one?
Now based on that answer, is he a better or worse person, regardless of religion?

[FreeFromBrains]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Hello all,
I have recently converted to Christianity because I had asked myself several questions.
One was that if the big bang was an expansion of the universe what caused the universe? I now believe that God created that first universe.
Another question was that if humans came from apes, how come there are still apes? There have been believable theories, however without hard evidence, you cannot say that humans transformed from monkeys.

Well, moving on from that, I was actually quite intrigued by this website I'm not sure you people have heard of before, but it is quite a good one and teaches people (well... it taught ME), and most importantly children about Jesus' love. I would like to know your opinions on this website. The website is Objective Ministries and I would like to direct your attention to the "4Kidz" part of it. Don't mind the incredibly cheesy title, however I think that if you folks have children, then maybe, just maybe it will come in handy: http://objectiveministries.org/kidz/

Nothing created the universe. Just like nothing created Yaweh.

There are still 'apes' for the same reason that I have cousins who are still alive.

You are a fucking imbecile and a disgrace to people with an education.

[Forest Spirit]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Being gay is wrong. How many people do you need to hear say it until you start to believe?

[LostSucker]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Nothing created the universe. Just like nothing created Yaweh.

There are still 'apes' for the same reason that I have cousins who are still alive.

You are a piffleing imbecile and a disgrace to people with an education.

Lol dude, I was simply trolling... But I wouldn't expect a fellow Atheist like you to be here, and make such a claim even with the title "wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense".

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Is there any solid evidence that the bible was written by God? Not references back to the bible or faith in belief, I mean solid evidence.

Nobody said it was. Not even the Bible says it is written by God.

Maybe you should try reading it before trying to discuss it.

And I thought that it wasn't meant to be literally your neighbor.

Maybe you should read the Bible and find out what it means. It's explained via context. Hint: "Everybody on Earth, living or dead" is not the definition.

When asked about homosexuals, I think his response would be,
"I don't really mind, its your choice and its ultimately your decision"

However if you ask about homosexuals on this forum, they give you one answer: "Jesus hates gays, you will burn".
To me, they are sounding a bit too faithful.
Based on what my RE teacher told me, is he a "real christian" or a fake one?
Now based on that answer, is he a better or worse person, regardless of religion?

Your RE teacher put his personal opinion ("Gee, all the homosexuals I meet seem to be nice people, so THE BIBLE MUST BE WRONG") above God's Command to execute them, and declaration that homosexuals are abominations worthy of death who will not enter Heaven.

This makes him a false Christian, and a horrible person. He is lying about what the Bible says, encouraging you to be a homosexual, even though he knows it means you will be tormented by God in His Lake of Fire for all time.

Why does your teacher hate homosexuals?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Lol dude, I was simply trolling...

No, really? We had no idea!

But I wouldn't expect a fellow Atheist like you to be here, and make such a claim even with the title "wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense".

Don't capitalize "atheist", troll. It is not a proper noun, and capitalizing it only makes you look like an ignorant, yet pretentious, twat.

[LostSucker]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Being gay is wrong. How many people do you need to hear say it until you start to believe?

You are obviously not very sharp are you?
I was wondering if people who accept others are better humans than those that tell others to burn in hell.
Isn't that what "God" wants you to do? Be loving? Or is he so selfish that he wants all the love for himself?

[FreeFromBrains]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Lol dude, I was simply trolling... But I wouldn't expect a fellow Atheist like you to be here, and make such a claim even with the title "wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense".

Dude, these guys believe in the bible word for word exactly as it says bible.

They think that to be a Christian means following the bible rather than, you know, just being nice.

Sorry I came on strong but most people don't realise that these guys think that just cause it says so in the bible it has anything to do with being Christian.

Go figure.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Are you all this incredibly racist? Not all arabs are muslims. Oh and I bet the Earth is flat too huh?

Well at last you are getting something right.

[LostSucker]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

Nobody said it was. Not even the Bible says it is written by God.

Maybe you should try reading it before trying to discuss it.

Maybe you should read the Bible and find out what it means. It's explained via context. Hint: "Everybody on Earth, living or dead" is not the definition.


Your RE teacher put his personal opinion ("Gee, all the homosexuals I meet seem to be nice people, so THE BIBLE MUST BE WRONG") above God's Command to execute them, and declaration that homosexuals are abominations worthy of death who will not enter Heaven.

This makes him a false Christian, and a horrible person. He is lying about what the Bible says, encouraging you to be a homosexual, even though he knows it means you will be tormented by God in His Lake of Fire for all time.

Why does your teacher hate homosexuals?

I take back absolutely everything I said. Obviously, this website is filled with people who are black in their hearts. You are extremists, and it is as simple as that. I hope you have a good time in *cough* heaven *cough*.
Ooh you called me a twat, please tell me further how capitalising atheism is a sin. Have you even considered that, maybe just maybe, it was a typo?
You're one to jump to conclusions without hearing any argument and you are a terrible person. Even if god lets you inside his so called paradise, you are still a bad person for not accepting people. You will have no true friends for that matter, because EVERYTHING has to be the way you want it to be huh?
I accept people, why can't you, because God says so? I have a mountain of evidence stockpiled to further show how God never existed. Again with the lake of fire. And I remember it was...hmmm ABSOLUTELY EVERYBODY in this forum that said that it was God who wrote it. Even you said that God knows what is written in the bible and can change it. Therefore everything in the bible is maintained by God. However God is omnipotent, right? Otherwise he wouldn't be God. So in a way he wanted those people to write those words, otherwise, like you said, he would have changed them. So he has, in a way, written it.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: New user and wanna be christian who is utterly cluess and dense

filled with people who are black

Racism is not tolerated here, pal

YIC