[JohnSwede]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

Maybe that's why you need to be a literary scholar to be able to do it? Are you saying that it is impossible to translate a book from one language to another?

Definitely not impossible. But it's such a complex book, translated from languages that are extremely different from ours? You never fear that there might be mistakes? Maybe not a huge amount, but just a "minor" mistake and we all will burn in hell.

That is why I think God might read between the lines a little bit for us who follow KJV.

[Alphonse Alban]

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Definitely not impossible

There you go, definitely not impossible is in other words very possible. I'm not a scholar and I can speak and translate accurately languages that are extremely different. It still does not matter, as it was God Himself who supervised the translation of the only true bible. KJV.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:.

[JohnSwede]

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There you go, definitely not impossible is in other words very possible. I'm not a scholar and I can speak and translate accurately languages that are extremely different. It still does not matter, as it was God Himself who supervised the translation of the only true bible. KJV.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:.

We will just have to take King James for his words then, but I am skeptic, as God is Divine but man is just a man with "free will". King James could have made up a whole lot of things when he translated it, not that I think so, but at least formalize certain things differently.


I just dont think that God will send around 6 billion people currently living on earth to hell. Last time I read the new testament, He was pretty forgiving.

[Redeemed Papist]

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We will just have to take King James for his words then, but I am skeptic, as God is Divine but man is just a man with "free will". King James could have made up a whole lot of things when he translated it, not that I think so, but at least formalize certain things differently.


I just dont think that God will send around 6 billion people currently living on earth to hell. Last time I read the new testament, He was pretty forgiving.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[Jedediah]

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man is just a man with "free will".

Free will is a non-Biblical myth.

John 15:16
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Romans 9:15-16
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

I just dont think that God will send around 6 billion people currently living on earth to hell. Last time I read the new testament, He was pretty forgiving.

Next time you read it, you might try pulling your head out of your ass first.

Matthew 7:13-14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

[JohnSwede]

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Next time you read it, you might try pulling your head out of your ass first.

Matthew 7:13-14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew 19:21
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Jesus was kind of a communist, at very least a socialist. You say that you interpret the Bible literary, so why don't you guys go and do what Jesus told?


Matthew 12:31
"And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven."

[Jedediah]

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Jesus was kind of a communist, at very least a socialist. You say that you interpret the Bible literary, so why don't you guys go and do what Jesus told?

How can you even begin to distort that verse of Scripture to suggest that Christ commanded that the state control the means of production? Do you even know what communism is, son?

I have signed over all my earthly possessions to Landover Baptist Church. It is through the Grace of God that the Pastors allow me to keep custody my income and the goods that I accumulated before becoming Saved. Try removing the beam from your own eye, God-mocker.

Matthew 7:2-4
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

[JohnSwede]

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How can you even begin to distort that verse of Scripture to suggest that Christ commanded that the state control the means of production? Do you even know what communism is, son?

I have signed over all my earthly possessions to Landover Baptist Church. It is through the Grace of God that the Pastors allow me to keep custody my income and the goods that I accumulated before becoming Saved. Try removing the beam from your own eye, God-mocker.

Matthew 7:2-4
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

I said "Kind of a communist" as he had partially same ideology as Karl Marx like advocating class war. But I can admit Jesus had more of a Socialist thinking than Communist.

Either way, I don't think "sell your possessions and give to the poor" meant NOT giving to the poor.

And how about all sins can be forgiven except blasphemy against God?
I am not mocking God, who are you to JUDGE me what I think about God? I Worship God. And IF I don't follow the bible correctly to 100%, but still believe and Worship God, I can be forgiven.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

[Rev. Edward Clement]

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And IF I don't follow the bible correctly to 100%, but still believe and Worship God, I can be forgiven.

Friend, you are absolutely incorrect. You cannot be forgiven unless you repent of your sceptical ways that lead to damnation.

Luke
17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

However, you cannot repent unless the Father broods over you and draws you to Jesus.

John
6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

In other words, your personal interpretation of the scripture does not matter, and you will not get saved when you want to. The Lord(r) makes that choice, not you.

And in rebuttal, before you say it: you cannot just call on the name of the Lord, or call Him Blessed unless the Lord moves you to call on Him.

1 Corinthians
12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

In further rebuttal, if you go ahead and say it: it will render a false-witness and will lead you further into damnation.

Friend, if you would read(instead of cherry-pick) the KJV Bible, you would be aware of this.

[JohnSwede]

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Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Of course we shall live by the words that proceedeth out of the mouth of God?

Doesn't change the fact that you won't be forgiven if you unintentionally fail some of his words.

Leviticus 4:26-28 :

"He shall burn all the fat on the altar as he burned the fat of the fellowship offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for the leader’s sin, and he will be forgiven.

“‘If any member of the community sins unintentionally and does what is forbidden in any of the Lord’s commands, when they realize their guilt and the sin they have committed becomes known, they must bring as their offering for the sin they committed a female goat without defect."



Plus, it clearly states, in pure plain text, that all sins can be forgiven except blasphemy against God. No one can deny that. Matthew 12:31 clearly states that.

[JohnSwede]

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Friend, you are absolutely incorrect. You cannot be forgiven unless you repent of your sceptical ways that lead to damnation.

Luke
17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

However, you cannot repent unless the Father broods over you and draws you to Jesus.

John
6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

In other words, your personal interpretation of the scripture does not matter, and you will not get saved when you want to. The Lord® makes that choice, not you.

And in rebuttal, before you say it: you cannot just call on the name of the Lord, or call Him Blessed unless the Lord moves you to call on Him.

1 Corinthians
12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

In further rebuttal, if you go ahead and say it: it will render a false-witness and will lead you further into damnation.

Friend, if you would read(instead of cherry-pick) the KJV Bible, you would be aware of this.

I follow the Lord, and I think I am following the Bible in a way that God will accept, but everyone makes mistakes, there is no one perfect except God.

You guys have stated that you take the Bible literary but now you say you shouldn't take Matthew 12:31 literary?
Matthew 12:31 is pretty plain and simple and difficult to interpret in another way. The verses you posted, would be "easier" to interpret into something that would suit your beliefs more than other's.

I have read the KJV Bible and there are lot's of verses that makes 100% sense and there are no questions what the message is, but then there are those verses in the Bible that creates different beliefs, which is not very difficult to understand. God will understand.

[Alphonse Alban]

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I just dont think that God will send around 6 billion people currently living on earth to hell. Last time I read the new testament, He was pretty forgiving.

He will send 60 billion and more to hell, if they do not follow his word. If you do not believe in the bible, you are not a Christian. This is the message of the bible, no matter the translation. Even in your liberal Swiss translation people who does not belive will be damned and so they were damned in Greek texts as well. This is all in that New Testament you clearly have not been reading.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

[Deaner]

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The doctors wanted to use Chemotherapy as an attempt to get me cured, but me and my parents decided not to go through it, and instead Pray and spend time in the church instead and hope God would forgive me for what I might have done to deserve the sickness, and here I am 10 years later asking myself why God chose to first make me sick and then give me this second chance and how to make it up for him.

The answer seems pretty obvious to me. Did you sin while you were in the womb? Did you lust after your mother and masturbate? God see's everything; including our thoughts.

If not your mother, do you have any sisters that you may have carnally sensed while in your mother's tummy?

It's hard to figure out why God does what he does sometimes. Just be glad he didn't order his angels to smash your head against a rock.

YIC

Deaner

[JohnSwede]

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He will send 60 billion and more to hell, if they do not follow his word. If you do not believe in the bible, you are not a Christian. This is the message of the bible, no matter the translation. Even in your liberal Swiss translation people who does not belive will be damned and so they were damned in Greek texts as well. This is all in that New Testament you clearly have not been reading.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Luke 19:27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

I believe, you know that.

Well, eventually more than 60 Billion people will go to hell, but at the moment we are far away from even had 60 Billion people walking the earth. It could take a thousand years before he has sent 60 billion people to hell, or it could take 60 billion years. We don't know how many made it to the Heaven.

I believe in the Bible, but we all do mistakes as I said previously and according to the Bible, you can be forgiven.
Enemies are non-believers, not people who unintentionally sin, therefore he can forgive you.

The Bible states that you should hate your enemy, but it is just a small piece of the Bible, but it is something the Baptist Church mostly focus on even though Loving your neighbors and helping the poor is something that is mentioned a lot as well.
Why do you ignore that?

Can you please enlighten me about Matthew 12:31? What does it mean?
You don't like when you interpret literary, but now you say different?
Hypocrisy is a death sin.