[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

I grew up thinking my little brother who died in childbirth was in Limbo. Now I'm told by Popes that Limbo doesn't really exist and they got it wrong, sorry. How did people who claim to be direct representatives of Christ get it so wrong?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

A lot of interpreting going on.

Let me ask you this Maria. Why do you hate Christianity? Why does following the word of some complete sociopath in Vatican City make more sense to you than simply following the easy to read Bible, approved by Jesus(c)?

[avemaria]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

I suppose you think Jesus was just kidding when He said,

If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
John 8:32

And by the way, ave is Latin for "hail."

Of course I know that that is why we say AVE NARIA which means Hail Mary. AND these are the words the angel Gabriel greeted Mary with.
Luke 1:28

[avemaria]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

My name is Maddie and Jesus approves of the Catholic Church
Matthew 16:18-19
Jesus approves of Peter'sauthority
2 Corinthians 2:17
Elders aren't just peddlers of words. They are commissioned by God not just self appoint Ted.
Matthew 16:18. JESUS used the word e c c le si a only twice in scripture. He intended a full heirarchal unified and authorative church.
Matthew 13:24-30 scandals have always existed in the church just as they have outside of the church. But God doesn't want us to lose hope in the church. He wants us to be side by side till the end of time.
Martin Luther Ki g who created the schism actually tried to commit suicide twice.
And if you look at Cathedrals like Notre Dame. You will see the gargoyles. These statues served to remit d that even in the church just like OUTSIDE of the church there is still darkness lurking in the light. That should help explain my point of how not all priests are rapists.

[avemaria]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

I grew up thinking my little brother who died in childbirth was in Limbo. Now I'm told by Popes that Limbo doesn't really exist and they got it wrong, sorry. How did people who claim to be direct representatives of Christ get it so wrong?

I am sorry but they are right...he is in HEAVEN with God the holy spirit and Jesus! God is not so cruel as to punish a child who died at birth. You should know and trust ghat God is not so unmerciful he is very merciful. That is why they said he isn't in limbo it should have been obvious to you he was now in heaven.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

Where exactly in the KJV Bible does it mention the pope? I've only read it cover-to-cover about 11 times, and I don't recall.

Yours in Christ (NOT DEAD MARY),

Z. Smyth

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

REV 12:1 Mary is the woman with the crown of twelve stars ergo Queen of Heaven and the Church.

Later in the chapter, we read that she was given eagle's wings to fly into the wilderness. How many of your idols depict that?

1 Corinthian 4:16
Best way to venerate saints is to imitate them.

A text without a context is a pretext.

1 Cor. 4:14-16: I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn [you]. though ye have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet [have ye] not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel. Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

It looks a bit different now, doesn't it?

Romans 13:7
We are to give honor where honor is due. When we honor God's children, we honor God himself, for HE is the source of all honor.

Again, look to the context.

Romans 13:1-7: Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil. Wherefore [ye] must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

It's a command to obey secular law.

Gen 14:8
First time the word priest is used. Melchizadek ( who's order Jesus belonged to) offers BREAD AND WINE to God.

Therefore?

Psalm 110:4
Zechariah 9:15-16
2 Chronicles 26:18
Only priests ordained by God can perform the sacrifice to God.

You are aware, I trust, that we no longer do the OT sacrifices.

Hebrews 10:11-13: And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

Genesis22:19
God saved Abraham's son from sacrifice by offering the ram as a substitute. Its a foreshadow to the requirement to sacrifice Israel's true king and the firstborn of God. JESUS.

That doesn't exactly help your point. As I've already explained to you, Jesus was sacrificed once, not during every Mass.

Psalm78:24-25 ; 104:5. Raining manna from heaven. Jesus is the bread from heaven. All who eat this bread shall never die.

Yes, we've read John chapter 6, the Catholics' supposed clobber passage, but Jesus is our spiritual bread:

John 6:63: It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, [they] are spirit, and [they] are life.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

I am sorry but they are right...he is in HEAVEN with God the holy spirit and Jesus! God is not so cruel as to punish a child who died at birth. You should know and trust ghat God is not so unmerciful he is very merciful. That is why they said he isn't in limbo it should have been obvious to you he was now in heaven.

God is God and is free to do as He pleases. Now show us the relevant Scripture passages that tell us whether children who die at birth go to Heaven or hell. Also, please answer the question of how the popes got it so wrong.

[avemaria]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

Where exactly in the KJV Bible does it mention the pope? I've only read it cover-to-cover about 11 times, and I don't recall.

Yours in Christ (NOT DEAD MARY),

Z. Smyth

Well if you read the Bible cover to cover you will notice that the word "Trinity" which we use to refer to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Yet we as Christians know it to be fundamental to our faith.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

Well if you read the Bible cover to cover you will notice that the word "Trinity" which we use to refer to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Yet we as Christians know it to be fundamental to our faith.

The Bible describes the concept, even if it doesn't use that exact word. Now please explain how the Bible teaches even the concept of the papacy.

[avemaria]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

God is God and is free to do as He pleases. Now show us the relevant Scripture passages that tell us whether children who die at birth go to Heaven or hell. Also, please answer the question of how the popes got it so wrong.

Jeremiah 1:5
Before thou gamest out of the womb I sanctified thee.
Matthew9:14 But Jesus said, " Suffer little children, and forbid them not to come unto me: for such is the kingdom of heaven
Matthew5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart : for they shall see God.
A child aborted or who has died in childbirth shall go to heaven because they have not yet sinned.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

Well if you read the Bible cover to cover you will notice that the word "Trinity" which we use to refer to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Yet we as Christians know it to be fundamental to our faith.

The word "trinity" is not mentioned in the Bible.

Please, read the thing before making an ass of yourself.

YiC,

Z. Smyth

[avemaria]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

God is God and is free to do as He pleases. Now show us the relevant Scripture passages that tell us whether children who die at birth go to Heaven or hell. Also, please answer the question of how the popes got it so wrong.

The word "trinity" is not mentioned in the Bible.

Please, read the thing before making an ass of yourself.

YiC,

Z. Smyth

Person, look at what the pastor above my last post said.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

Person, look at what the pastor above my last post said.

I was responding to what YOU said:

Well if you read the Bible cover to cover you will notice that the word "Trinity" which we use to refer to God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. Yet we as Christians know it to be fundamental to our faith.

You made the preposterous claim that the word "trinity" is in the Bible. It is not.

We deal with facts here, not italian fairy tales.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why I Am Catholic

Jeremiah 1:5
Before thou gamest out of the womb I sanctified thee.
Matthew9:14 But Jesus said, " Suffer little children, and forbid them not to come unto me: for such is the kingdom of heaven
Matthew5:8 Blessed are the pure in heart : for they shall see God.
A child aborted or who has died in childbirth shall go to heaven because they have not yet sinned.

Romans 3:23: For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

We've all sinned.

Psalm 51:5: Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Yes, even babies.

John 3:18: He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

No belief, no salvation.