[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello Everybody

Actually,I asked a question,which is not the same and saying it...

No, you didn't. Here, I'll refresh your very short memory:

...I believe all beliefs should be respected...

So, I'm safe in assuming you respect Nazis, Salafists, and Dick Cheney.

...A person can easily condemn you the same way for numerous accounts of murder in the Bible...

Do you realize you're trying to condemn an atheist for the contents of the Bible?

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello Everybody

You need to make your mind up about this point of view I have. Do you remember saying this in my other thread?

I agree with that

You posted this comment in reply to this very same view of mine.

You are an asshole. You misquoted me, to make it appear that I said something I didn't. Try quoting what I actually said:

I agree with that...

in reference to this:

...I see no need at all for insulting, and degrading anybody just because they don't attune to your view...

And then I said:

...but this:...

...To disrespect a person's belief is to disrespect the whole being...

...is so much claptrap. Don't you think that allowing people to hold onto views grounded in falsehood unchallenged does them a disservice, and actually shows disrespect?

...You don't recognize it because I said it sightly different...

NO, YOU DIDN'T. You said something COMPLETELY different.

...It doesn't matter, the main point was made and by you own words, you agreed with me...

NO, I DIDN'T. Misquoting me to make me appear to agree with something I DIDN'T is dirty pool, and just cost you any credibility you may have had here.

...So are you changing your view depending on which way the wind blows?

No. Before you misquote me again, I'm done here. Fuck you.

Btw, I'm not insulting you for having a different view. I'm insulting you for twisting my words, asshole.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Hello Everybody

Shall I run down the atrocities that was done in the name of Christianity? Like the Salem witch hunts. Women,put to death in some of the most horrific ways at the hands of men. or are you saying that non-Muslim men get a pass on the treatment of women.

Seriously, do I really need to having this conversation with you? In the other thread you showed the same lack of forethought in your response to me.

Do you watch the news? Here's some news here of a non-Muslim male's treatment of his wife.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...AlHyAI4AdTMKyQ

The thing to remember is that as True Christians™ we beleive that God used the Bible (KJV1611) to give us His word.

The Bible tells us not to suffer the witch to live. How is putting a witch to death not following God's word?

The problem you have is that you do not beleive in God. You see the world through the lense of atheistical materialism.

I confidently expect you not to beleive that queers should be killed for their filthy anal antics but God wants them dead by human hand. We know this because it says so in the Bible.

Now, you are free to cleave to your subjective culturally defined morality but as True Christians™ we cannot do so. It is a hard road that we walking down. The first time I disciplined my ex wife I was physically sick to see her laying there in tears: but as the man if the house I had a duty to do right by her.

Do you see now?

YIC

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello Everybody

Shall I run down the atrocities that was done in the name of Christianity? Like the Salem witch hunts. Women,put to death in some of the most horrific ways at the hands of men. or are you saying that non-Muslim men get a pass on the treatment of women.

Run down as much as you want. I LOVE talking about how the LORD reaches out to us!

But this little straw man attempt of yours didn't answer my question. I asked for confirmation on the point that by respecting all beliefs, you respect the belief that advocates throwing acid in a woman's face because she brings dishonor to her mooslim husband? You respect the belief that supports so-called "honor killings" of a mooslim daughter who is legitimately rape. Can you confirm or deny that please?

Seriously, do I really need to having this conversation with you?

Not at all. You can click the little red arrow at the top of your screen, close your computer, and take a walk outside. Then you won't be having this conversation with any of us.

Do you watch the news? Here's some news here of a non-Muslim male's treatment of his wife.

For what purpose are you sharing this? Is this a belief system for which you have equal respect? I'm not aware of cooking one's wife in a pot being in the Holy Bible. I mean, it's not like he did this in response to an evil the LORD sent, like He did back in Elijah's day when women had to boil their own children for food (2Kings 6:28-29, 33).

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Hello Everybody

I believe all beliefs should be respected,and the debasement,name calling, and dismissive natures should be avoided just because someone don't agree with your view.

For example, Joshua and how he killed men,women,children, and the animals that belonged to the people that occupied the lands that was promised to them. This is just one of many Bible atrocities that people can you to say that you don't deserve respect.

An "atrocity" is not a belief.

You stated, very clearly, that "all beliefs should be respected". Sister Mary asked you if that meant you respected the beliefs of Muslims who think they should "honor kill" their daughters who were legitimately raped. Your response was to yammer about "atrocities" and to insult her in your condescending atheist manner.

It's a yes or no question. Do you really believe that "all beliefs should be respected", or only the beliefs you like?

The fact that you, an atheist, have joined a Christian church's discussion forum with the sole purpose of showing us how stupid we all must certainly be already answers the question. We'd just like for you to admit to your hypocrisy.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello Everybody

Shall I run down the atrocities that was done in the name of Christianity? Like the Salem witch hunts. Women,put to death in some of the most horrific ways at the hands of men. or are you saying that non-Muslim men get a pass on the treatment of women.

Seriously, do I really need to having this conversation with you? In the other thread you showed the same lack of forethought in your response to me.

Do you watch the news? Here's some news here of a non-Muslim male's treatment of his wife.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...AlHyAI4AdTMKyQ

Very tolerant...

[Seventy]

Re: Hello Everybody

This is correct, you are free to refuse the GOOD NEWS in the Holy Bible and burn in Hell, should you choose to do so.

Please don't! Save yourself!

There is no hell,do research and you will see this. Also,the Jews don't believe in hell. So I really don't see why people give this word so much power.

[Seventy]

Re: Hello Everybody

No, you didn't. Here, I'll refresh your very short memory:

Maybe you should read your own post (#9) and keep better track of the conversation. This is what happens when you have an agenda that says I'm going to confront you just to be doing so. So my advice to you is to "refresh" your own memory of the question I asked before you claim a false "gotcha" moment.

So, I'm safe in assuming you respect Nazis, Salafists, and Dick Cheney.

This line of reasoning is getting a little mundane.

Do you realize you're trying to condemn an atheist for the contents of the Bible?

If you mean you, then I say no because I don't know anything about you or your beliefs. Now if you are talking about yourself,why are you defending any religion if you have no respect for them?

So tell me what is your belief and lets see if it stands up to muster.

[Cursed]

Re: Hello Everybody

There is no hell,do research and you will see this. Also,the Jews don't believe in hell. So I really don't see why people give this word so much power.

Who cares what the jews believe in? They will burn in Hell along with you.

I've done my research, Seventy, and you are sadly mistaken.

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.~Matthew 13:41-42


Jesus said that. Are you calling Our Lord and Savior, Christ Jesus, a liar?

[Seventy]

Re: Hello Everybody

You are an asshole. You misquoted me, to make it appear that I said something I didn't. Try quoting what I actually said:



in reference to this:



And then I said:









NO, YOU DIDN'T. You said something COMPLETELY different.



NO, I DIDN'T. Misquoting me to make me appear to agree with something I DIDN'T is dirty pool, and just cost you any credibility you may have had here.



No. Before you misquote me again, I'm done here. Fuck you.

Btw, I'm not insulting you for having a different view. I'm insulting you for twisting my words, asshole.

I didn't misquote you,it just seems like I did. So lets clear the air here and now. Do you agree with my original statement below?

I see no need at all for insulting, and degrading anybody just because they don't attune to your view

Now in the other thread,by you own words,you agreed with this.

But, you objected to this.

To disrespect a person's belief is to disrespect the whole being...

So again,how have I misquoted you?

[Seventy]

Re: Hello Everybody

The thing to remember is that as True Christians™ we beleive that God used the Bible (KJV1611) to give us His word.

The Bible tells us not to suffer the witch to live. How is putting a witch to death not following God's word?

The Bible says to stone a disobedient child,but I don't see and True Christians following that law. (Deuteronomy 21:18-21)

The problem you have is that you do not beleive in God. You see the world through the lense of atheistical materialism.

I don't have to believe to see that Christians chooses what laws to follow and which ones not to follow. The problem I see is that you have members on this board, and Christians out in the world that says the Bible is the law. Then continue by saying that it has to be followed to the letter. But only when there is no skin off of their noses.

I confidently expect you not to beleive that queers should be killed for their filthy anal antics but God wants them dead by human hand. We know this because it says so in the Bible.

Ok,lets go with this. If you had a family member that was gay, would you end their life,then use the word of the Bible as your defense? You see,this is a matter of faith and belief, and how strong they are. So how strong is yours?

You should be able to do this and have the whole Christian Community behind you because you are following the word of God.(Lev.18:22 & 20:13)

Now, you are free to cleave to your subjective culturally defined morality but as True Christians™ we cannot do so.

Based on this,what is stopping you from taking actions that are backed up by scripture? Do you have an objective standard of morals that all people should follow?

It is a hard road that we walking down. The first time I disciplined my ex wife I was physically sick to see her laying there in tears: but as the man if the house I had a duty to do right by her.

I wonder how many women on this board will agree with this? My guess,in private,none. But they must have a show of solidarity on this board while confronting me. Also,I wonder how many men agree with this? If you have children,you think they agree with this and support you? Most likely a large percentage on this board will since men have a history of beating women.

Do you see now?

Do I see the apparent flaws in following the Bible? After reading that last comment of yours,it's even stronger.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello Everybody

Once we get the law changed to full on Christian law you betcha we'll be stoning disobedient brats. God commands it.

[Seventy]

Re: Hello Everybody

Run down as much as you want. I LOVE talking about how the LORD reaches out to us!

I have a even more pressing question to ask you. If this is you in your avatar, you have a pretty face and seem to not put up with being beat on. Do you agree that a wife should be beat on a whim by the husband? For example, you didn't follow a rule or an order. Or I'll use an actual situation where the husband beat his wife based on the Bible.

A co-worker of mine beat his wife because she didn't have dinner ready on time. Where we worked at was 5miles from their home. She had to dive herself to the doctor in her sick state (because he didn't feel like taking off) to their doctor's office that was about 40 miles away. On the way back there was a accident on the express way that took hours to clear up.

She made it home at 6:pm, which was dinner time,so since it wasn't fixed,so he beat her. This is what he told several of us when we had a talk about things in the Bible and some of it's rules and this is what his defense was.

So,do you think he was justified?

[Seventy]

Re: Hello Everybody

An "atrocity" is not a belief.

I never said it was.

You stated, very clearly, that "all beliefs should be respected". Sister Mary asked you if that meant you respected the beliefs of Muslims who think they should "honor kill" their daughters who were legitimately raped. Your response was to yammer about "atrocities" and to insult her in your condescending atheist manner.

No,I just showed her that your religion is not free of guilt by any stretch of the imagination. Did Jesus say let he who is without sin cast the first stone?
many of you seem to be throwing stones in a glass house.

It's a yes or no question. Do you really believe that "all beliefs should be respected", or only the beliefs you like?

Yes I do believe this, and I don't recall saying what me beliefs were.

The fact that you, an atheist, have joined a Christian church's discussion forum with the sole purpose of showing us how stupid we all must certainly be already answers the question. We'd just like for you to admit to your hypocrisy.

I'll be happy to just as soon as you point them out. But I would like for you to admit yours also.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Hello Everybody

Dear Friend,

Did Jesus say let he who is without sin cast the first stone?

No, he didn't. John 8:7.

He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

Please don't paraphrase God Almighty.

Yours in Him,
bab