[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

What is your religious persuasion?

Pagan

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Creationism

Pagan

You seem to believe strongly in science. How does science support paganism?

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

You seem to believe strongly in science. How does science support paganism?

It doesn't
Paganizam-if somebody wants to know more

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Creationism

It doesn't
Paganizam-if somebody wants to know more

So why do you believe it?

Also, which branch of paganism do you follow? I take it you believe in some kind of deity or deities. What makes you think your god (or gods) are real and ours is not?

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

So why do you believe it?

Also, which branch of paganism do you follow? I take it you believe in some kind of deity or deities. What makes you think your god (or gods) are real and ours is not?

I worship nature
Don't laugh
I can prove it exists

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Creationism

I worship nature
Don't laugh
I can prove it exists

You don't need to prove nature exists. But what is it about nature that is worthy of your worship? And what kind of teachings do you follow?

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

You don't need to prove nature exists. But what is it about nature that is worthy of your worship? And what kind of teachings do you follow?

Wicca
In the link

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Creationism

Wicca
In the link

Why do you believe in wicca, though? You've questioned why we believe what we believe. Now we want to know why you believe what you believe. You've already admitted it's unscientific. I daresay a lot of the arguments you've used against creationism could be used against wicca. Not that I believe in secular science. I'm just trying to use your logic and apply it to wicca.

If you agree with all the information in the link you provided, then I take it you believe in summerland, the afterlife realm. What proof do you have that this place exists? And doesn't it bother you that Gerald Gardner virtually invented wicca by himself during the 50's? You're fond of quoting Wikipedia, so here's one for you:

Wicca (English pronunciation: /ˈwɪkə/) is a modern pagan religion focused around witchcraft. Developed in England during the first half of the 20th century,[1] it draws upon a diverse set of ancient pagan religious motifs for its theological structure and ritual practice.

The notion of the survival of Wiccan traditions and rituals from ancient sources is contested by most recent researchers, who suggest that Wicca is a 20th century creation which combines elements of freemasonry and 19th century occultism.[100]

In his 1999 book The Triumph of the Moon, Ronald Hutton researched the Wiccan claim that ancient pagan customs have survived into modern times after being Christianised in medieval times as folk practices. Hutton found that most of the folk customs which are claimed to have pagan roots (such as the Maypole dance) actually date from the Middle Ages. He concluded that the idea that medieval revels were pagan in origin is a legacy of the Protestant Reformation.[101][102]

So what makes Gardner's teachings more reliable than the Bible? What makes his teachings worth anything?

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

Why do you believe in wicca, though? You've questioned why we believe what we believe. Now we want to know why you believe what you believe. You've already admitted it's unscientific. I daresay a lot of the arguments you've used against creationism could be used against wicca. Not that I believe in secular science. I'm just trying to use your logic and apply it to wicca.

When I sed it isn't scientific I ment it isn't like mainline science
But alternative science

If you agree with all the information in the link you provided, then I take it you believe in summerland, the afterlife realm. What proof do you have that this place exists? And doesn't it bother you that Gerald Gardner virtually invented wicca by himself during the 50's? You're fond of quoting Wikipedia, so here's one for you:



Do you believe in magic? Do you believe in the god/ goddess?

Yes,I believe in magick
God and Goddess-yes

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Creationism

But alternative science

Alternative science is another word for pseudo-science. You've think Creation science is pseudo-science and you have used mainstream science to try to convince us we're wrong. Aren't you being hypocritical?

Yes,I believe in magick
God and Goddess-yes

Give me one example where you have personally witnessed magic.
Why do you believe in the god and goddess?

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

Alternative science is another word for pseudo-science. You've think Creation science is pseudo-science and you have used mainstream science to try to convince us we're wrong. Aren't you being hypocritical?

No I am not
I talking abaut science ley lines,out-of-body experience etc.
Do you know that sciencist who in modern times described
out-of-body experience is similar to one that shamans had described
and that sciencist didn't know abaut beliefs that shamans had
abaut out-of-body experience or their described
Makes you wonder,does it

[James Hutchins]

Re: Creationism

...........
Yes,I believe in magick
God and Goddess-yes

Now I understand. You have brain damage.

I learned long ago to let you people be and just let you bang your head against the wall if that is what you want to do.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Creationism

No I am not
I talking abaut science ley lines,out-of-body experience etc.
Do you know that sciencist who in modern times described
out-of-body experience is similar to one that shamans had described
and that sciencist didn't know abaut beliefs that shamans had
abaut out-of-body experience or their described
Makes you wonder,does it

Before I was saved I was very interested in out of body experience research and one experimental design used was to fire mice out of a special gun at a wall to potentially kill them. Above the target zone we hung cheese linked up to a vibration sensor.

The hypothesis was that if out of body experiences are real the spirits (not souls as animals don't have them) would rise up and try to eat the cheese, triggering the sensors.

Guess what? Nothing happened. We even lowered out P value to .1 but there was no effect.

I was a scientist and out of body experiences are a heap of BS. When we die we wait unknowingly untill the ressurection.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

YIC

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

Now I understand. You have brain damage.

I learned long ago to let you people be and just let you bang your head against the wall if that is what you want to do.

Here,informacions
Wicca magick
What is real magick
Let me use your logic
And your Bible prohibits magick and occult
Why prohibt something that isn't real

[James Hutchins]

Re: Creationism

Here,informacions
Wicca magick
What is real magick
Let me use your logic
And your Bible prohibits magick and occult
Why prohibt something that isn't real

Oh, magick is real enough. Messing with it will give you an EzPas® straight to Hell!

You see, I am not as narrowed minded as you are. All True Christians(tm) have open minds and always readily consider all sides of a discussion. See Anna, we carefully thought about all your comments and decided you are wrong.
Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?