[Faith_Machine]

Re: Creationism

No,shamans(pural)discribed the similar thing
No is is not proof,just intresting observacion

So you we have evidence that, given similar circumstances, people can have similar hallucinations.

That was example
but 2 pictures

Would you care to articulate just what it is you think those two pictures are proving?

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

Why should they listen to you about science? Why should anyone? You're a Wiccan!

Becoze we have prof

So two people had similar hallucinations. Wow?

Not two,many

So, a straight line from Moscow to Madrid happens to pass through Vienna? This is proof of what, now?

And: guess what? That's a flat map. Because the Earth is spherical, when you try to represent it in a flat manner, it gets distorted: distances between places change, straight lines aren't, etc.

So I pulled up Google Earth, and... (sorry for huge images, but detail is necessary here)

A straight line from Moscow to Madrid not only doesn't go near Vienna at all, it misses Austria completely!

Second image is a zoom of Spanish end of the line, to show that Madrid is the endpoint.

It proves nothing
anather intresting observacion
One more intresting observacion
One lay line through Europe(I can't find picture)
5 or 4 places in straight line-all names of thes viliges
have word star in it

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

So you we have evidence that, given similar circumstances, people can have similar hallucinations.

And you know that those where hallucinations how exacly?

Would you care to articulate just what it is you think those two pictures are proving?

Nothing
It is just observacion

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Creationism

Becoze we have prof

What proof do you have that wicca is right?

Not two,many

Okay, so many people can have the same delusion at once. Just look at catholics whenever Mary supposedly appears in an object. Hundreds, if not thousands, will claim they saw her. Does that make them right?

I presume you follow Gerald Gardner's teachings. What makes his teachings more reliable than the Bible?

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

What proof do you have that wicca is right?

I meant science have proof that you are wrong

Okay, so many people can have the same delusion at once. Just look at catholics whenever Mary supposedly appears in an object. Hundreds, if not thousands, will claim they saw her. Does that make them right?

I presume you follow Gerald Gardner's teachings. What makes his teachings more reliable than the Bible?

OK
I meant shamans
if it was one then it would be wrong
Two would be coincidence
More wouldn't
Catholics and Mary-probably that-"you see what you expect to see applays" here
and Catholic church won't deny it because it is big business

[James Hutchins]

Re: Creationism

Oh Anna! Following some make believe cult with fantasy writings is is really quite insane.
You know what the Bible says:
2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Regarding 'wicca':

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Leviticus 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 20:6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.

Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
Deuteronomy 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

1st Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Now, stop all this silliness and get right with Jesus!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Creationism

Becoze we have prof

Wrong. You have ideas, fantasies, and you look to any events that can be interpreted in any way to support them. Any and all information to the contrary is systematically dismissed. It's called cognitive dissonance. Google it.

Not two,many

Being taught delusional thinking isn't hard. People continue to teach themselves incorrect interpretations of reality long after their initial mentors are gone. What you're missing here is the reality that your beliefs are naught but imaginary explanations that appease to various emotional needs. Look at nature, look at what is actually going on, not what you feel sure must be going on. You'll see that the simplest explanation is likely the accurate one.

You want information about how the world works in reality? Look to the source guide.

<--- Source Guide

It proves nothing
anather intresting observacion
One more intresting observacion
One lay line through Europe(I can't find picture)
5 or 4 places in straight line-all names of thes viliges
have word star in it

They all have letters in them, and they all have water sources nearby, and they all are in Europe. Your attempts at finding some mystical connection when none exist is childish and foolish. Grow up, stop hoping fairy tales are real, and look to life with your eyes wide open. Be in control. Carpe Diem. And accept Jesus as your LORD and Master.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Creationism

Anna, you claim to have prof, but you haven't presented any. Let's see this prof of yours. If your prof is adequate, I will humbly apologize for being wrong and convert to Wiccanism.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Creationism

Litle advice to all of you
Read what is links

Why would we want to listen to your preaching? You obviously came here to turn us all into witches by first getting us to reject Jesus because science says Jesus is a lie then to get us to believe your witchcraft nonsense which science also says is nonsense. Can you not see how ridiculous this is?

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Creationism

OK
I meant shamans
if it was one then it would be wrong
Two would be coincidence
More wouldn't

Millions of mormons claim to have experienced a burning in their breast. Does that make them right? Are you going to convert to mormonism now? I read the link you provided on out-of-body experiences. Mainstream science does not support a belief in shamanism or wicca.

Mainstream science considers the OBE a type of hallucination that can be caused by various psychological and neurological factors.

You keep referring to ley lines and out-of-body experiences as interesting observations. I don't base my life or my beliefs on interesting observations, and I don't know why anybody else would. Why do you believe in wicca?

Catholics and Mary-probably that-"you see what you expect to see applays" here
and Catholic church won't deny it because it is big business

I think you see evidence for paganism because that's what you expect or want to see.

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

Oh Anna! Following some make believe cult with fantasy writings is is really quite insane.
You know what the Bible says:
2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

Habakkuk 2:2 And the LORD answered me, and said, Write the vision, and make it plain upon tables, that he may run that readeth it.

Jeremiah 36:2 Take thee a roll of a book, and write therein all the words that I have spoken unto thee against Israel, and against Judah, and against all the nations, from the day I spake unto thee, from the days of Josiah, even unto this day.

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Regarding 'wicca':

Exodus 22:18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

Leviticus 19:31 Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 20:6 And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people.

Leviticus 20:27 A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death: they shall stone them with stones: their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 18:10 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch.
Deuteronomy 18:11 Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer.

1st Samuel 15:23 For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Now, stop all this silliness and get right with Jesus!

Yoou are quoting from your religius book to someone wgo is difrent religion and who doesn't belive in it
Intresting

Wrong. You have ideas, fantasies, and you look to any events that can be interpreted in any way to support them. Any and all information to the contrary is systematically dismissed. It's called cognitive dissonance. Google it.



Being taught delusional thinking isn't hard. People continue to teach themselves incorrect interpretations of reality long after their initial mentors are gone. What you're missing here is the reality that your beliefs are naught but imaginary explanations that appease to various emotional needs. Look at nature, look at what is actually going on, not what you feel sure must be going on. You'll see that the simplest explanation is likely the accurate one.

Did any of you read those links anaut Wicca
Wicca FAQs
Wicca magick
What is real magick
Wicca information
Christian and wicca

Anna, you claim to have prof, but you haven't presented any. Let's see this prof of yours. If your prof is adequate, I will humbly apologize for being wrong and convert to Wiccanism.

I ment scientists have ptof that you are wrong
abaut creation of world

Why would we want to listen to your preaching? You obviously came here to turn us all into witches by first getting us to reject Jesus because science says Jesus is a lie then to get us to believe your witchcraft nonsense which science also says is nonsense. Can you not see how ridiculous this is?

I didn't seid that Jesus is a lie
and I don't convert you to Wicca
I don't really care what religione you are

Millions of mormons claim to have experienced a burning in their breast. Does that make them right? Are you going to convert to mormonism now? I read the link you provided on out-of-body experiences. Mainstream science does not support a belief in shamanism or wicca.

I know that mainstream science,but alternative does

You keep referring to ley lines and out-of-body experiences as interesting observations. I don't base my life or my beliefs on interesting observations, and I don't know why anybody else would. Why do you believe in wicca?



I think you see evidence for paganism because that's what you expect or want to see.

Read those links abaut Wicca

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Creationism

Anna, I'm going to ask you to do two things. They should be very simple.

1. Cast a spell on me. Post what it is here, and I will let everyone know if it worked.

2. Link to a peer-reviewed scientific journal that explicitly states the tenets of wicca have a scientific foundation.

Failure to do either of those constitutes your admission that wicca is a sham.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[James Hutchins]

Re: Creationism

Anna, 'wicca' is not a religion. It is a child's game, all fantasy and make believe, like 'Dungeons and Dragons'. You cannot live in your dream world forever young lady. There comes a point where you have to snap out of it and get with the program. Get married, have babies, praise to God and do all you can to prevent your worthless being from ending up in Hell.

[{Anna}]

Re: Creationism

Anna, I'm going to ask you to do two things. They should be very simple.

1. Cast a spell on me. Post what it is here, and I will let everyone know if it worked.

No,ever heard of Wicca rede

2. Link to a peer-reviewed scientific journal that explicitly states the tenets of wicca have a scientific foundation.

Read what is in links

Failure to do either of those constitutes your admission that wicca is a sham.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Magick
The art and science of magick
What is real magick

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Creationism

Magick
The art and science of magick
What is real magick

I looked at those links, and none of them satisfy my challenge to you.

Try again.