[Miss Tanith]

Re: The truth

and I frankly don't give a damn if I disgust you, frankly, it reassures me of my normality.

You disgust ME for your vial hypocrisy. You say God created everyone equal, yet you call other unequal based off race and belief alone. Wasn't Jesus Jewish? Then why do you persecute the Jewish. Didn't Jesus create every race in his image? Then why do you persecute others based of the tone of your skin.

You can't say we judge people unfairly here, on a site specifically set up so that members who believe the Truth can talk amongst themselves, when you called the True Christians a cult. How dare you call me a hypocrite when you are the same?

Good luck, hope my love for all doesn't make God send me to "The Devils Tallywacker" with mothers who lost their child in pregnancy or every Syrain ever according to this site

I lost my twins in pregnancy. It was my fault they will burn in hell for all eternity, and I accept that. Why YOU feel this is any of YOUR business is beyond me. Infact, coming here to be a little child and whine just proves how "smart" you really are. We're not Jehova's Witnesses here, we don't come to your house and try and force you to believe what we do, we keep it inside the community. You might as well be one though, since you came here spreading your hate.

[TittySprinkles]

Re: The truth

In an honest and sincere question, why do you think your twins are in hell?

(I'm sorry by the way, you don't have to answer if you don't want)

[Miss Tanith]

Re: The truth

In an honest and sincere question, why do you think your twins are in hell?

(I'm sorry by the way, you don't have to answer if you don't want)

I would have thought that obvious. They have no concious ability to know and accept that Jesus died for them, do they? If you want to discuss this more, there's a thread about it. Let's not hijack "The lies I tell hurt Jesus's" lovely introduction.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The truth

In an honest and sincere question, why do you think your twins are in hell?

(I'm sorry by the way, you don't have to answer if you don't want)

They have been condemned because they did not make the choice to believe in the name of the only begotten Son of God before they died.

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already,
because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:18

I hope that helps.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: The truth

I'm Christian myself, I just don't feel people are better then one another based off race or major belief.
"For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise." - Galatians 3:26-29
now tell me where in the bible not liking a facebook page sends me to hell
And don't you guys ever think about your own faults (face it everyone has their own faults even though we are made in God's perfect image we are born with original sin) such as the fact of your major condemnations of others, and your threats of hell, some radical and some ideally realistic.

Just because I'm against you doesn't "prove your right" no more does your persecution of others prove they are right

I'm sure you're not necessarily bad people but your religous judgement has some seriously culty issues

tl;dr


First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: The truth

You guys are a cult, sorry

Define cult. How is it different from a "common religion"?

In all seriousness:

You offend races and other common religions

You have bull topics such as "The pope picks his boogers" and "Catholics aren't Christians"

We offend no one. We follow God. We quote the Bible. If people are don't like what we do or say, they are offended by God and His Word.

Why should we tolerate other religions if they're wrong? Should we allow them to continue to teach fairytales and deceive vulnerable people and brainwash their children? Should we allow them to continue to do abhorrent things in the name of their god, such as jihad and honour killings?

You remind me very much of the Westboro Baptist Church, which is a CULT

What makes Westboro a cult? (I'm not suggesting it's a True Church(tm), by the way.)

God doesn't care if you like a freaking facebook page, he just wants your love and prayers

God wants so much more than your love and prayers. He wants your total devotion.

Mat 10:37-38 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

He wants your total obedience . . .

Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

. . . to all of His commandments.

Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

He wants you to be willing to lay down your life for Him and your brothers and sisters in Christ.

Mat 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Mat 10:32-33 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

1 Jn 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

You guys honestly have social and mental issues you need to work out.

You guys have a right to your opinion of course, but this is a very radical group that spits in the face of true morals.

I don't expect any of you poor folks to get it, but I hope you realize how terribly clouded your minds are one day.

Why would we have a right to our opinions if we're wrong?

I'm Christian myself, I just don't feel people are better then one another based off race or major belief.
"For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise." - Galatians 3:26-29

You're misquoting Scripture -- and from a false Bible translation. God Himself thinks we're better than everyone else.

1 Pet 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;

now tell me where in the bible not liking a facebook page sends me to hell
And don't you guys ever think about your own faults (face it everyone has their own faults even though we are made in God's perfect image we are born with original sin) such as the fact of your major condemnations of others, and your threats of hell, some radical and some ideally realistic.

Jesus threatened others with hell.

Mat 9:43-48
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.

Just because I'm against you doesn't "prove your right"

Yes it does, because it fulfils Jesus' prophecy.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

It sends shivers down my spine knowing that Jesus could predict the future with such accuracy.

I love God and am a proud christian. But I support GOD. not peoples different beliefs of god.

What makes you a Christian? Do you love God by keeping His commandments?

If God is omnipotent, He doesn't need your support.

You disgust ME for your vial hypocrisy.

Show us one instance where we have been inconsistent.

You say God created everyone equal

Where did we say that? God loves some and hates others even before they are born.

Rom 9:11-14
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

God created some people for a special purpose, to be vessels of mercy filled with His love, and others for a common purpose, to be vessels of wrath filled with His judgement.

Rom 9:21-23
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

It isn't the looks, the talents, or the uncontrollable circumstances of a man that makes him

Everyone is born a sinner. That's uncontrollable.

Ps 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

That makes the man, for he is unable to change without God.

Jer 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.

Its his character. WHAT HE MAKES OF WHAT HE HAS.
I choose to believe everyone can go to heaven, no matter what, if they just repent, and believe in Gods grace

Prove it from Scripture.

I don't have all these "oh excepts". I am all accepting. Like God and Jesus are known to be

Like when Jesus will accept all those who work iniquity into His kingdom with open arms?

Mat 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Honestly, you will be persecuted in hell for your non-accepting of fellow man, if our beliefs our true

The Bible tells us not to accept unbelievers.

2 Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

What passage do you use to back up your claim?

this guy didn't die for you to interpret the Bible in a radicalist way, but I guess he didn't die for either of us to force our opinions on each other either.

We don't interpret the Bible. We take it literally. How did you come up with your populist interpretation of the Bible? By taking it metaphorically? By ignoring the bits you don't like?

But just imagine one last scenario for me

You die, because of some sad tragic, unforeseeable accident
You come before God in final judgement
When he asks you what you did in life
Do you really think he will say he is glad you persecuted races, or other religions?

I think to me He will say, "Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord" (Mat 25:23b); and to you, "Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strewed: thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Mat 25:26b-30).

Either way, one thing I can say is I tip my hat to your devout faith. You will never change your opinions, which can be considered admirable (albeit also foolish)

Devout faith in itself is not a virtue. If what we believe in is false, our faith is futile.

1 Cor 15:17-19
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

[Donovan A. Mordecai]

Re: The truth

Define cult. How is it different from a "common religion"?



We offend no one. We follow God. We quote the Bible. If people are don't like what we do or say, they are offended by God and His Word.

Why should we tolerate other religions if they're wrong? Should we allow them to continue to teach fairytales and deceive vulnerable people and brainwash their children? Should we allow them to continue to do abhorrent things in the name of their god, such as jihad and honour killings?



What makes Westboro a cult? (I'm not suggesting it's a True Church™, by the way.)



God wants so much more than your love and prayers. He wants your total devotion.

Mat 10:37-38 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.

He wants your total obedience . . .

Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

. . . to all of His commandments.

Jas 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

He wants you to be willing to lay down your life for Him and your brothers and sisters in Christ.

Mat 10:28 28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

Mat 10:32-33 Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 10:39 He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.

1 Jn 3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.



Why would we have a right to our opinions if we're wrong?



You're misquoting Scripture -- and from a false Bible translation. God Himself thinks we're better than everyone else.

1 Pet 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;



Jesus threatened others with hell.

Mat 9:43-48
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.



Yes it does, because it fulfils Jesus' prophecy.

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

It sends shivers down my spine knowing that Jesus could predict the future with such accuracy.



What makes you a Christian? Do you love God by keeping His commandments?

If God is omnipotent, He doesn't need your support.




Show us one instance where we have been inconsistent.



Where did we say that? God loves some and hates others even before they are born.

Rom 9:11-14
11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth)
12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

God created some people for a special purpose, to be vessels of mercy filled with His love, and others for a common purpose, to be vessels of wrath filled with His judgement.

Rom 9:21-23
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,



Everyone is born a sinner. That's uncontrollable.

Ps 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

That makes the man, for he is unable to change without God.

Jer 13:23 Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the leopard his spots? then may ye also do good, that are accustomed to do evil.



Prove it from Scripture.



Like when Jesus will accept all those who work iniquity into His kingdom with open arms?

Mat 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.



The Bible tells us not to accept unbelievers.

2 Cor 6:14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?

What passage do you use to back up your claim?



We don't interpret the Bible. We take it literally. How did you come up with your populist interpretation of the Bible? By taking it metaphorically? By ignoring the bits you don't like?



I think to me He will say, "Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord" (Mat 25:23b); and to you, "Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strewed: thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Mat 25:26b-30).



Devout faith in itself is not a virtue. If what we believe in is false, our faith is futile.

1 Cor 15:17-19
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.
18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished.
19 If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men most miserable.

As a summary,

Jesus wins, every time, full stop

God Bless
DAM

[the unknown prophet]

Re: The truth

I'm Christian myself, I just don't feel people are better then one another based off race or major belief.
"For in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise." - Galatians 3:26-29
now tell me where in the bible not liking a facebook page sends me to hell
And don't you guys ever think about your own faults (face it everyone has their own faults even though we are made in God's perfect image we are born with original sin) such as the fact of your major condemnations of others, and your threats of hell, some radical and some ideally realistic.

Just because I'm against you doesn't "prove your right" no more does your persecution of others prove they are right

I'm sure you're not necessarily bad people but your religous judgement has some seriously culty issues

All I know is that I don't want you tainting the white gene pool assuming that you're white. If you are, then marry some black or brown person. Preferably a black person of the same sex, so that way you won't produce kids.

[bradley t]

Re: The truth

All I know is that I don't want you tainting the white gene pool assuming that you're white. If you are, then marry some black or brown person. Preferably a black person of the same sex, so that way you won't produce kids.

Lol racist scumbag

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: The truth

I love God and am a proud christian. But I support GOD. not peoples different beliefs of god.

I stopped reading at that point, as it is clear to me by your own words that you are not, and never have been, a True Christian(tm). You do not even capitalize the word "Christian". (Oh, and peoples' needs that apostrophe.)

Let us look at what you said: "But I support GOD. not peoples different beliefs of god."

So, you suggest that various people have various beliefs of what God is or intends, or did, or said.

But you are part of "people". You have said that you have your own idea of God. (You must have others=wise you could not support Him.)

It therefore seems to me that you have not read a Bible. That you have decided that God is a person much like you who agrees with everything you say.

In fact, the truth is that you have invented a god from the parts of the Bible that have been read to you and you worship this god that is no more than a set of Lego Bricks constructed by you.

I think this is why we, here at Landover, see you as a failure. You are not a Christian at all.

You must read Landover and, if you can find fault in our interpretation of God, then, and only then, can you have any opinion at all.

Here at Landover, we believe every Word of the Bible is true. If you think God lies from time to time... well, that's for you to decide.

But don't come here with your half-assed statements and no-account opinions.

[Attila's Wife]

Re: The truth

I stopped reading at that point, as it is clear to me by your own words that you are not, and never have been, a True Christian™. You do not even capitalize the word "Christian". (Oh, and peoples' needs that apostrophe.)

It certainly does, but where? Without it we don't know if he means people's or peoples' - presumably a crucial point in his argument (which I did not read).

But don't come here with your half-assed statements and no-account opinions.

Amen, Brother!

[the unknown prophet]

Re: The truth

Lol racist scumbag

So I take it you hate white people? Anti-racist is code for "white people suck and I'm obsessed with how awesome black people are, the black race is so totally the superior race". Damn hypocrites.

[the unknown prophet]

Re: The truth

Lol racist scumbag

And btw, if I'm so "racist" as you say, then why did I create this thread? Well, I'm waiting for your reply. Still think that I'm racist? Huh? Likewise, I am an admirer of blacks such as Ben Carson, Aaron McGruder, Bill Cosby, John Dabiri, and other such blacks, whether liberal or conservative, WHO DON'T COMPLAIN all day long while asking to borrow my car. Granville T. Woods was pretty fly as well, but he did not invent either the third rail or the air brake. So suck it.

[the unknown prophet]

Re: The truth

If you want to talk about racist, examine this chunk of text:

If you have a 110 IQ, being married to a 75 IQ negro is like being married to a pet animal (who can f___ you) (I suppose that's one of the charms) (but who is also 13 times more likely to kill you) (that's one of the downsides).

Now that inter-species hominid marriage has been normalized, and after "gay" marriage gets equally normalized in White countries, I suppose that is exactly what's coming next: "chimera marriage." Disapproval/resistance will be called "chimeraism."

The jews are currently pushing human sex with dogs and sheep and horses, are they not? I remember a year or two ago, a pit bull killed a pretty young woman in San Francisco for turning down his "advances" (pushing his nose forcefully into her privates). The pit bull was the lover of a 30-something (not too unattractive) humanoid jewess. The jewess's lover was not on a leash at the time.

Obviously, the next step for America and Europe is "chimera marriage" -- and chimera "children." I'm sure science can find a way to enable a sort of viable chimera offspring -- half dog, half human -- half goat, half human -- half horse, half human -- that sort of thing . Naturally, it would then become important to legitimize and normalize such "chimera families" with marriage. Why not? It's a jew world and we're already quite a way down that road.

I'm serious. That is the world our children will grow up in. Hell, we're almost there already.

[ExGay Alex]

Re: The truth

If you want to talk about racist, examine this chunk of text:

Sorry, but I don't see the issue ....