A few questions

[OnTheContrary]

If Jesus was opposed to: democracy and rebellion against authority, but supports: inequality, freedom of speech (but only for straight males), and about 1001 other building blocks of America, how is America a Christian based society?

Firstly, America was the first large-scale democracy. But as your organization says 'JESUS HATES DEMOCRACY, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UNABLE TO PROPERLY GOVERN THEMSELVES', how is America Christian?

Secondly, Separation of Church and State along with Freedom of Religion are both building blocks of our constitution. if Christianity 'The one true religion' is what America is built off of, why in the world do we support Freedom of Religion AND Separation of Church and State.

Thirdly, The Christian Bible clearly states that all authority is appointed by God (or 'The Divine Right of Kings'). And, unless I am mistaken when the Revolutionary War happened America was rebelling against Britain, which was ruled by AN EXTREMELY CHRISTIAN KING. So, if America was in fact a 'Christian State', why would it have rebelled against Britain, as that would mean that they were rebelling against 'The One True God'

Finally, if Liberals are 'sooooooooooo evil' (), why does your ALL POWERFUL LIBERAL-HATING GOD not destroy them all and replace them with oh-so-godly conservative Republicans, who are primarily big-businessmen whose primary goal is to PROFIT (its called Greed, which is one of the seven deadly sins (not that I am against big-business, CAPITALISM FTW))?

And that is just the very TIP of the iceberg. So have a great day.

[Didymus Much]

Re: A few questions

...Firstly, America was the first large-scale democracy...

Um...

...When the country was founded, in most states, only non-Negro men with real property-usually of at least 50 acres- (land) or sufficient wealth for taxation were permitted to vote....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_rights_in_the_United_States

[Attila's Wife]

Re: A few questions

You ask many questions, my little UnSaved friend. But you seem unable to read the instructions above your first post:

Attention Unsaved Trash: This the ONLY subforum you can start threads in. Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

0/10. Try again.

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[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: A few questions

Secondly, Separation of Church and State along with Freedom of Religion are both building blocks of our constitution. if Christianity 'The one true religion' is what America is built off of, why in the world do we support Freedom of Religion AND Separation of Church and State.

I don't think any right-thinking person does but the point is that God wants us to come to the right decision ourselves, of our own freewill.

So, if America was in fact a 'Christian State', why would it have rebelled against Britain, as that would mean that they were rebelling against 'The One True God'

No, it was God's will that King George be defeated.

We don't usually allow retards to post on the board and neither do we approve of Socialists.

You're wasting time, mine and yours. asking too many questions when you could be praising Jesus.

[OnTheContrary]

Re: A few questions

Um...



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voting_..._United_States

I never said it was a completely unhindered democracy.

You ask many questions, my little UnSaved friend. But you seem unable to read the instructions above your first post:



0/10. Try again.

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Actually, it said that this was the only forum 'Unsaved Trash' could post threads in, seeing as I am classified as 'Unsaved', I posted in here.

1. I don't think any right-thinking person does but the point is that God wants us to come to the right decision ourselves, of our own freewill.

2. No, it was God's will that King George be defeated.

3. We don't usually allow retards to post on the board and neither do we approve of Socialists.

4. You're wasting time, mine and yours. asking too many questions when you could be praising Jesus.

1. If God wants us to come to the decision on our own, you should stop trying force your religion on others. Also, are you implying that Separation of Church and State is an insane notion?

2. OK, fine, it was Gods will. Now, why would he want to destroy the political power of his devoted servant?

3. How do you come to the conclusion that I am socialist (which I am not), and mentally retarded (which I am not)?

4. To this I respond with a famous quote from Socrates (or as you may know him 'Unsaved Greek Man')-

"The unexamined life is not worth living"

Thank you for time

[James Hutchins]

Re: A few questions

If Jesus was opposed to: democracy and rebellion against authority, but supports: inequality, freedom of speech (but only for straight males), and about 1001 other building blocks of America, how is America a Christian based society?

Firstly, America was the first large-scale democracy. But as your organization says 'JESUS HATES DEMOCRACY, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE UNABLE TO PROPERLY GOVERN THEMSELVES', how is America Christian?

Secondly, Separation of Church and State along with Freedom of Religion are both building blocks of our constitution. if Christianity 'The one true religion' is what America is built off of, why in the world do we support Freedom of Religion AND Separation of Church and State.

Thirdly, The Christian Bible clearly states that all authority is appointed by God (or 'The Divine Right of Kings'). And, unless I am mistaken when the Revolutionary War happened America was rebelling against Britain, which was ruled by AN EXTREMELY CHRISTIAN KING. So, if America was in fact a 'Christian State', why would it have rebelled against Britain, as that would mean that they were rebelling against 'The One True God'

Finally, if Liberals are 'sooooooooooo evil' (), why does your ALL POWERFUL LIBERAL-HATING GOD not destroy them all and replace them with oh-so-godly conservative Republicans, who are primarily big-businessmen whose primary goal is to PROFIT (its called Greed, which is one of the seven deadly sins (not that I am against big-business, CAPITALISM FTW))?

And that is just the very TIP of the iceberg. So have a great day.

Friend, I do not understand your point. There is God and there is us.

Be glad He does not strike you down with a bolt of fire from the Heavens above.

God provides to those that provide to Him.

Perhaps you should read your Bible and not listen to the fringe yelps of your first year pysch professor.


I think you should read our syllabus for new posters as written by Pastor Billy-Reuben. It really explains all you need to know as far as our beliefs. It also outlines what is expected as far as your behavior on these forums.

Here are your rights as articulated by Dr. Enobarbus.

New members are requested to make an introduction for themselves.

We always encourage everyone to back up all claims with scripture from the Holy Bible.

Chances are the question you want to have answered has been asked before. I would be sure to use the search function before diving head first into people who are tired of hearing the same question over and over.




First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Attila's Wife]

Re: A few questions

Actually, it said that this was the only forum 'Unsaved Trash' could post threads in, seeing as I am classified as 'Unsaved', I posted in here.

The clue is in the title of this section of the forums: "The Introduction Forum". This is the only forum in which you can start a thread of your own, but it is certainly not the only one in which you can post. Are you really so vain as to believe that you have anything to say which is so original that it is worth starting a thread for, something we have not heard before from your kind?

If God wants us to come to the decision on our own, you should stop trying force your religion on others.

Please direct us to the section of Internet Law which says that the UnSaved are obliged to come here. You were not invited. But now that you are here, I hope you will open your heart to the Word of Our Beloved Lord.

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

I will pray for you, dear.
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[OnTheContrary]

Re: A few questions

Friend, I do not understand your point. There is God and there is us.

Be glad He does not strike you down with a bolt of fire from the Heavens above.

God provides to those that provide to Him.

Perhaps you should read your Bible and not listen to the fringe yelps of you first year pysch professor.


I think you should read our syllabus for new posters as written by Pastor Billy-Reuben. It really explains all you need to know as far as our beliefs. It also outlines what is expected as far as your behavior on these forums.

Here are your rights as articulated by Dr. Enobarbus.

New members are requested to make an introduction for themselves.

We always encourage everyone to back up all claims with scripture from the Holy Bible.

Chances are the question you want to have answered has been asked before. I would be sure to use the search function before diving head first into people who are tired of hearing the same question over and over.




First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

I am not here to flame, merely to inquire. I understand the Landover Baptist Church is opposed to Human Rights of any kind. My goal is not to start debates of any sort, however I must disagree with you one point and that point is- "WE ARE RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG". I disagree not because I think you are wrong, or I am right (that would be like saying 'We can know nothing for sure, but I am sure you are wrong'), but because it is a very lofty claim until you can provide secular evidence, which both you and I cannot.

I am very curious about where in my post I explicitly stated that there is no God.

Thank you for reading, and I hope I made my opinions perfectly clear.

Also, would you like to tell me how I can respond to private messages?

[OnTheContrary]

Re: A few questions

The clue is in the title of this section of the forums: "The Introduction Forum". This is the only forum in which you can start a thread of your own, but it is certainly not the only one in which you can post. Are you really so vain as to believe that you have anything to say which is so original that it is worth starting a thread for, something we have not heard before from your kind?

And tell me, did I not follow the rules stated, and start a thread here?

Please direct us to the section of Internet Law which says that the UnSaved are obliged to come here. You were not invited. But now that you are here, I hope you will open your heart to the Word of Our Beloved Lord.

In fact, I never once even IMPLIED that I was forced to come here.

John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

I will pray for you, dear.
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[Attila's Wife]

Re: A few questions

And tell me, did I not follow the rules stated, and start a thread here?

You miss the point, which of course is not surprising.

I was asking why you felt the need to start a thread of your own (incidentally, very much NOT following the rules for introductory threads, which are clearly set out at the top of the page), rather than use your freedom to comment on any other thread which had somehow offended your sensibilities.

In fact, I never once even IMPLIED that I was forced to come here.

You accused us of trying to force our religion on others. This is a privately owned True Christian(TM) website whose purpose is clearly stated in the Terms and Conditions (which I dare say you did not bother to read). So why are you here, unless you wish to be shown His ways?

I suspect you are trying to use your feminine wiles on us, but that really will not work here, dear.

I wish you well,
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[James Hutchins]

Re: A few questions

I am not here to flame, merely to inquire. I understand the Landover Baptist Church is opposed to Human Rights of any kind. My goal is not to start debates of any sort, however I must disagree with you one point and that point is- "WE ARE RIGHT AND YOU ARE WRONG". I disagree not because I think you are wrong, or I am right (that would be like saying 'We can know nothing for sure, but I am sure you are wrong'), but because it is a very lofty claim until you can provide secular evidence, which both you and I cannot.

I am very curious about where in my post I explicitly stated that there is no God.

Thank you for reading, and I hope I made my opinions perfectly clear.

Also, would you like to tell me how I can respond to private messages?

'Secular Evidence'? Why would I do that? This is a CHRISTIAN site. So I will provide Biblical evidence. If you want secular, try elsewhere.
Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


As far as your 'opinoins', not a single Christian could care less about them. All that matters is what God thinks.

[OnTheContrary]

Re: A few questions

'Secular Evidence'? Why would I do that? This is a CHRISTIAN site. So I will provide Biblical evidence. If you want secular, try elsewhere.
Isaiah 29:14 Therefore, behold, I will proceed to do a marvellous work among this people, even a marvellous work and a wonder: for the wisdom of their wise men shall perish, and the understanding of their prudent men shall be hid.

Matthew 18:3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.

John 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
John 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day.

John 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
John 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

1st Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1st Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
1st Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
1st Corinthians 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1st Corinthians 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
1st Corinthians 1:24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.
1st Corinthians 1:25 Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
1st Corinthians 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
1st Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
1st Corinthians 2:15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

1st Corinthians 3:18 Let no man deceive himself. If any man among you seemeth to be wise in this world, let him become a fool, that he may be wise.
1st Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
1st Corinthians 3:20 And again, The Lord knoweth the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.

Jude 1:16 These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.
Jude 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
Jude 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.
Jude 1:19 These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.


As far as your 'opinoins', not a single Christian could care less about them. All that matters is what God thinks.

Great. You can quote KJV 1611.

But I still am curious as to where in my post I stated there was no God, o denied the existence of anything.

I understand your very righteous, correct, religious, True Christian, religious, baptist, godly, compassionate, respectful, evangelical, holy, Jesus-powered, just, proper, and correct viewpoints. Now, if you could please answer all of my questions, that would be very much appreciated.

Now if you will excuse, I will be thinking about why Atheism is an irrational viewpoint on the world (because it is).

[James Hutchins]

Re: A few questions

Great. You can quote KJV 1611.

But I still am curious as to where in my post I stated there was no God, o denied the existence of anything.

I understand your very righteous, correct, religious, True Christian, religious, baptist, godly, compassionate, respectful, evangelical, holy, Jesus-powered, just, proper, and correct viewpoints. Now, if you could please answer all of my questions, that would be very much appreciated.

Now if you will excuse, I will be thinking about why Atheism is an irrational viewpoint on the world (because it is).

Are you really that dense or is there something wrong with you?
This is a CHRSTIAN website. We are not here to defend your heretics. We are here because we want God to know we care.
You do not care. Fine. You made your choice and will go to Hell.

If you want answers to all of lifes questions, read the Bible. God answered every question there is and every question there will be. He is just that good.

Thank you for at least acknowledging that our viewpoints are absolutely correct.

[Attila's Wife]

Re: A few questions

I understand your very righteous, correct, religious, True Christian, religious, baptist, godly, compassionate, respectful, evangelical, holy, Jesus-powered, just, proper, and correct viewpoints. Now, if you could please answer all of my questions, that would be very much appreciated.

When you have followed the instructions to introduce yourself properly, on OUR forums, then perhaps someone with more patience than I have will do so.

Now if you will excuse, I will be thinking about why Atheism is an irrational viewpoint on the world (because it is).

Well, that at least is a start! Tell us what church you go to. What is your favorite Bible verse and how did you come to find Jesus?

[OnTheContrary]

Re: A few questions

I have always held that belief, Atheists state that their is no God, simply because there is no substantial proof. I believe in a God, as it is a far more rational viewpoint than that once upon a time there were a bunch of chemicals that mixed just right to create the universe.

Why did I join the forums: To see if my questions could be answered
Favorite bible Quote: I don't have one (not because I don't like the Bible)