[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

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Gerlinde K, you should be ashamed of yourself! My web browser says you made this: My computer translated if from German as I do not understand German. My mother always says Germans are only good for one thing.

That was a joke about the stupidity of George W. Bush, whom by some American Christians so beloved president. In Germany and France, this joke was told everywhere. It was even in the newspapers. And immediately understood. What does your mother believe? What can Germans make good? Begin and fight wars? They have lost every damn war. Crawl to the Americans in their ass? And do not fight back against the naughty units of the NSA, the U.S. government and the economy? That's right, that they can excellent! Because the Germans did not fight back! If I were Chancellor, the FTA would have died, and the Transatlantic friendship also. Who wants to spy on us without a legal basis, should have pay for it!

[Oliver Brendan Hayve]

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And, btw, I don't mock GOD, because I believe in him, but I mock your so called "pastor", which has no clue of the subject.

Says the person who ducks questions, gets basic facts wrong, and seems unable to understand her own sources.

Delete or lock my account, I do not care, I do not want anything to do with you bigoted farts.

I have a fun new idea. If you don't want to be involved in this discussion board, then don't be involved in this discussion board. Just close the browser window and go on with your life. I know it sounds crazy, but it just might work.

[Nobar King]

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Someone to call a whore, is very "Christian"?

What fascist country do you live in where they do not allow freedom of speech? Here in the U.S.A. your lexicon cannot be limited because of your religion, color, or gender.

[Cranky Old Man]

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No, I see these quotes just different than you.

That is correct. When I read Leviticus 18:22 (or Leviticus 20:13 or Romans 1:26-27), which says men should not have sex with other men in every translation ever made, I read the actual text and know this is what God wants.

You keep twisting and twisting it until it means the complete opposite and become a lesbian slut. So yes, we do see these quotes completely different. It's unfortunate that you are too arrogant to realize this until it is too late and you burn in the fires of Hell. Although no doubt in your version of the Bible Hell is a fun place.

I'm not arrogant, I just know a lot.

Normally I refer people to dictionaries when they don't understand the meaning of a word. But in your case that would be a pointless exercise as you know better than the dictionary just like you know better than the Bible. You are the most arrogant person I ever met on the Internet. No one will ever be able to reach through that thick skull of yours.

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

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What fascist country do you live in where they do not allow freedom of speech? Here in the U.S.A. your lexicon cannot be limited because of your religion, color, or gender.

It's not about the legal side, but of a good Christian education. And to call someone a whore, is not only counterproductive, but also wrong. A prostitute/whore offers her body for money; something I would never do. And also the "whore of Babylon", for example, which was mentioned in the Revelation of John, described the former Roman Empire. Read in any good Bible dictionary about it.

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

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That is correct. When I read Leviticus 18:22 (or Leviticus 20:13 or Romans 1:26-27), which says men should not have sex with other men in every translation ever made, I read the actual text and know this is what God wants.

Little fool if you believe that, you do not know the Bible said quotes! Because they ALL are not talking about a homosexual relationship, but about pederasts and their catamites. This is particularly evident in the 1st Corinthians, where Paul uses the words malokoi and arsenokoites. Here's a little help for you:

arsenos koiten

referred to shrine prostitution (Philo, The Special Laws, III, VII, 40-42).

Source:

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/Arsenokoites.php

And about malakos, little nipper, you can found this:

http://www.stjohnsmcc.org/new/BibleAbuse/Malakos.php

It is a abuse of the Bible to use the texts differently than the writers meant.it

You keep twisting and twisting it until it means the complete opposite and become a lesbian slut.

First of all, you outbreak at Hillbilly intelligence, I'm a lesbian, no lesbian slut. And for another, I am referring to the Bible and biblical scholars. Most of them very devout men, as the theologian Norbert Greinacher. Or professionals like R. Scoggs and DS Bailey, but also the Theological Dictionary of the New Testamentpublished by Kittel. And Mr. Kittel is used as a standard work of clergy every Christian denomination, worthy of the title as well. The thus had studied theology for many years at a prestigious university. Not like doing in the forum, call themselves the "pastor" but of the subject have no idea.

So yes, we do see these quotes completely different. It's unfortunate that you are too arrogant to realize this until it is too late and you burn in the fires of Hell. Although no doubt in your version of the Bible Hell is a fun place.

I'm not arrogant, but confident. I know what I know. And I know that I know much more about the subject than anyone I've met in this forum yet.

Normally I refer people to dictionaries when they don't understand the meaning of a word. But in your case that would be a pointless exercise as you know better than the dictionary just like you know better than the Bible. You are the most arrogant person I ever met on the Internet. No one will ever be able to reach through that thick skull of yours.

What dictionaries and "experts" are probably the most? Similar scientific "lights" as your so-called pastor? Then you have already lost! For your vorsintflutlische fundamentalist reasoning bible is scientifically untenable. If anyone here has a thick skull, then certainly not me!

@ Admin,

I'm going to stir things up here until you have deleted my account. That's a promise. And I'm used to keep my promise!

[Nobar King]

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It's not about the legal side, but of a good Christian education. And to call someone a whore, is not only counterproductive, but also wrong. A prostitute/whore offers her body for money; something I would never do. And also the "whore of Babylon", for example, which was mentioned in the Revelation of John, described the former Roman Empire. Read in any good Bible dictionary about it.

OK, so it's good enough to put in the Bible or any dictionary but it's NOT OK for someone who is Christian to use? Do you understand what I said about Fascism, yet?

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

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OK, so it's good enough to put in the Bible or any dictionary but it's NOT OK for someone who is Christian to use? Do you understand what I said about Fascism, yet?

Is it to be very painful, ignorant and illiterate, or at least to do so? If there is such a thing as religious Fachismus, so you can see him here in abundant measure. The Bible used the word "whore" as a metaphor. The dictionaries explain das. And to call someone a whore; even though someone is not; is wrong and bad behavior. My mother would have washed my mouth for it with plain soap.

[Zechariah Smyth]

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Is it to be very painful, ignorant and illiterate, or at least to do so? If there is such a thing as religious Fachismus, so you can see him here in abundant measure. The Bible used the word "whore" as a metaphor. The dictionaries explain das. And to call someone a whore; even though someone is not; is wrong and bad behavior. My mother would have washed my mouth for it with plain soap.

Your claim to be familiar with dictionaries is a little hard to believe.



Also: tell me how this is metaphorical:

(Leviticus 19:29) "Do not prostitute thy daughter, to cause her to be a whore; lest the land fall to whoredom, and the land become full of wickedness."



I think it was your pal Freud who said, "Sometimes a whore is just a whore" or something like that.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

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Your claim to be familiar with dictionaries is a little hard to believe.

Come, visit me in Germany, and have a look at my library. And see the articles I have had written about this topic, even published in books (e.g. "Let our voices be heard - Lesbian Christians telling their stories", published by a Norwegian Christian, Randi Solberg). I knew much more about this topic, because I have studied it, than you or anybody else here.


BTW, to change my avatar wasn't mean, and not Christian like. Therefore, I post a witch to make a little joke about it.

[Cranky Old Man]

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I am referring to the Bible and biblical scholars. Most of them very devout men, as the theologian Norbert Greinacher. Or professionals like R. Scoggs and DS Bailey, but also the Theological Dictionary of the New Testamentpublished by Kittel

So you think you found some people who, just like you, think the Bible means the exact opposite of what it actually says. You are wrong on both accounts. The Bible means what it says, it's surprisingly simple that way. Also, I actually met Norbert Greinacher a long while ago and what he says and has written down is completely different from your utter nonsense. But it's no surprise that if you are incapable of reading the Bible you are incapable of reading other things as well.

Do you really not see how unlikely all this is? Do you really believe our almighty creator is powerful enough to create everything and everyone but incapable of creating a Bible that means what it says? Do you really honestly believe that God wrote the exact opposite in the Bible of what He actually meant to say? Are you really that stupid???

And even if your extremely unlikely theory that the translators completely changed the meaning of the Bible would be true. Would an almighty God really allow almost all his people to be so severely misled?

It's almost as if you are trying to prove God doesn't exist...

[Nobar King]

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It's almost as if you are trying to prove God doesn't exist...

Yeah, like that will ever happen!

[Basilissa]

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Little fool if you believe that, you do not know the Bible said quotes! Because they ALL are not talking about a homosexual relationship, but about pederasts and their catamites. This is particularly evident in the 1st Corinthians, where Paul uses the words malokoi and arsenokoites.

Could you explain to me, then, why every single Bible translation translates it as "homosexuals" and not as "pederasts?" Is there some international conspiracy of Bible translators? (Hint: in addition to reading several English translations, I've also read the Bible in five other languages, including two non Indo-European).

It is a abuse of the Bible to use the texts differently than the writers meant.it

And that's exactly what you are doing with all of our fancy-shmancy dictionaries. You are reading too many commentaries and too little Bible, sweetie.

First of all, you outbreak at Hillbilly intelligence, I'm a lesbian, no lesbian slut.

Technically, you are an eunuch cheating lesbian women to think that he's a woman.

I'm not arrogant, but confident. I know what I know. And I know that I know much more about the subject than anyone I've met in this forum yet.

Which is why you just ignore the instances when somebody points out how wrong you are.

I'm going to stir things up here until you have deleted my account. That's a promise. And I'm used to keep my promise!

Go on. I have the whole day!

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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Is there some international conspiracy of Bible translators?

And if so, what stops Almighty God from doing something about it, especially when He has promised to preserve His words (Psalm 12:6-7, Isaiah 40:8, Matthew 24:35)?

[Dirtbag Nazi Childmolestor (Quarantined)]

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Could you explain to me, then, why every single Bible translation translates it as "homosexuals" and not as "pederasts?" Is there some international conspiracy of Bible translators?

Finally a halfway reasonable question! Thank you .
This is easy to explain. The original texts were written in Aramaic / Hebrew and Greek. At that time people were not as far as getting in their knowledge . They did not know that a Greek word twenty or more different meanings can have. Take, for example, the word " malokoi " ( German spelling) , which is mentioned in Paul's Epistle to the Corinthians ( in all of us known quote about homosexuals The word can be translated as . :
soft, gentle , tender ; but also as a coward , a liar and effeminate. Here is an overview of the different Bible translations :

https://christiangays.com/articles/malakoi.shtml

Earlier translators brought it first with the masturbation related. It was only in the fifties was constructed as homosexual, a connection that is not consistent.
So if there was a conspiracy , then it came from homophobic fundamentalist Christians. Not from the Bible , and not even by the translators.