[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

Re: HI!

Thanks for that advise. I choose not to take it, if you don't mind.

Well, I don't mind but you should.

You are going to burn in without taking it.

"I choose not..." Atheists are so stupid.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: HI!

Thanks for that advise (sic). I choose not to take it, if you don't mind.

How shocking.



Why are you here, Elsa? You're obviously too brilliant for us, so far you've been disinclined to discuss Scripture (of which you seem blissfully unaware), and your manners suggest you aren't thrilled to be here.

So what's the deal?

[elsa333]

Re: HI!

Well, if you really want to rot in Hell for eternity that much, I guess we cannot stop you.

I will pray for you anyway. Maybe some day you will decide to pick up the Bible and read it.

Already read it. And I don't believe in hell. But if there is a god, and if he would send me to hell for simply using my brain, then he's not a very good and loving god after all.

[Basilissa]

Re: HI!

Already read it. And I don't believe in hell. But if there is a god, and if he would send me to hell for simply using my brain, then he's not a very good and loving god after all.

What part of the Bible did make you think that God was very good and loving, exactly?

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

Re: HI!

Already read it. And I don't believe in hell. But if there is a god, and if he would send me to hell for simply using my brain, then he's not a very good and loving god after all.

Oh, you want a god who does how you have thought with your tiny brain.

How fresh opinion. No atheist has said that before.

[Didymus Much]

Re: HI!

...if he would send me to hell for simply using my brain, then he's not a very good and loving god after all.

Would a "good" and "loving" God tell us that He wants homosexuals, disobedient children, witches, married rape victims, non-virgin brides who have been properly paid for, and those who gather sticks on the Sabbath killed?

Scripture for all the above (and plenty more) available in your Bible; as you've read it, I'll not bother citing.

[elsa333]

Re: HI!

What part of the Bible did make you think that God was very good and loving, exactly?

1 John 4:8 "God is love."

Psalm 100:5 "For the Lord is good, his mercy is everlasting, and his truth endureth through all generations"

Psalm 145:9 "The Lord is good to all, and his mercy is over all that he has made."

Want some more?

[Basilissa]

Re: HI!

1 John 4:8 "God is love."

Please read the entire chapter for context. God loves those who follow Him, not those who don't (includong those who died too young or too far away to be able to learn about Jesus, compare John 3:18).

Psalm 100:5 "For the Lord is good, his mercy is everlasting, and his truth endureth through all generations"

Please read the entire Psalm 100, it has only five verses. Again here, the mercy of God is for those who follow Him.

Psalm 145:9 "The Lord is good to all, and his mercy is over all that he has made."

This psalm was composed by King David, after he slew Philistines. His "all" does not include the men, women, and children who were killed so that God's chosen naton could have land of their own.

[elsa333]

Re: HI!

Would a "good" and "loving" God tell us that He wants homosexuals, disobedient children, witches, married rape victims, non-virgin brides who have been properly paid for, and those who gather sticks on the Sabbath killed?

Scripture for all the above (and plenty more) available in your Bible; as you've read it, I'll not bother citing.

Why on earth would you want to worship an evil god? That's pretty much Satanism when you put it that way. The way you describe god, I'd much rather worship Satan than the barbaric, evil tyrant you seem to love so much. What does he do for you? There must be some appeal at least.

[elsa333]

Re: HI!

Please read the entire chapter for context. God loves those who follow Him, not those who don't (includong those who died too young or too far away to be able to learn about Jesus, compare John 3:18).

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I know it's all context, it's just when I used to go to church, everyone seems to think that God loves EVERYONE on the planet. I know he was only referring to his chosen people. Every pastor that I've known has always said that God loves everyone no matter what.

[Didymus Much]

Re: HI!

Why on earth would you want to worship an evil god? That's pretty much Satanism when you put it that way...

1) I don't put it that way, the Bible does (which you'd know if you read it).

2) You don't understand Satanism, either. More reading & learning for you to do.

...The way you describe god, I'd much rather worship Satan than the barbaric, evil tyrant you seem to love so much...

Except that anyone who has read the Bible knows that God created Satan, and thus, Satan cannot do anything that God doesn't let him do. Why would you worship the ham-strung creation instead of the Creator?

...What does he do for you? There must be some appeal at least.

There's the "not throwing you into Hell forever for doing exactly as He says" bit.

[Didymus Much]

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...Every pastor that I've known has always said that God loves everyone no matter what.

They're more concerned about keeping the butts in the pews (and the collection plate jingling) than about their parishioner's eternal souls. The same Bible they attempt to hold up for justification says that they're just dragging others down to Hell with them. How's that for hateful?

None of that nonsense at Landover.

[elsa333]

Re: HI!

So you don't really love God, you're just scared of hell. You're a little sissy, aren't you? And apparently God only loves those who love him, so you will end up in hell, too. God can most likely see through your sissy little act.

At least I don't pretend to love God to avoid hell.

[Didymus Much]

Re: HI!

So you don't really love God, you're just scared of hell. You're a little sissy, aren't you?...

1) I'm atheist. I have never claimed that what the Bible says is true, only that what the Bible says is what the Bible says. Your reading comprehension needs work.

2) Do a Bible search on the terms "respect God", "love God", and "fear God". The results may surprise you (and educate you as to what God really wants).

...And apparently God only loves those who love him...

That's what the Bible says, yes.

...God can most likely see through your sissy little act...

Great, another "atheist" telling us what God can or can't do, what God wants, etc.

...At least I don't pretend to love God to avoid hell.

There's nothing in the Bible that says it won't work.

Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."

Jesus says that you just need to believe (doesn't specify why) and be baptized.

[elsa333]

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DAMN! I finally understand you! Took us long enough to get here. Obviously the Bible is crazy and convoluted and evil. You're a very effective atheist. You'd make a good Christian. Kudos.