[WalkingInTheLight]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Might I just add that the Bible says a woman must not wear anything "pertaining" to a man, not that she shouldn't wear anything "designed specifically for a man".
Could a man more wise and knowledgeable than me tell me if I am correct in understanding the point to be that women and men must be clearly and strictly identifiable as such, so that they are not confused with each other? How degrading for a man to be compared in any way to a woman!

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Might I just add that the Bible says a woman must not wear anything "pertaining" to a man, not that she shouldn't wear anything "designed specifically for a man".
Could a man more wise and knowledgeable than me tell me if I am correct in understanding the point to be that women and men must be clearly and strictly identifiable as such, so that they are not confused with each other? How degrading for a man to be compared in any way to a woman!

Your husband has instructed you well.

[WalkingInTheLight]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Your husband has instructed you well.

Thank you very much, Sir He is not yet my husband, as I need to seek the guidance of appropriate men of authority (such as the kind Pastors, as I have no father) before we may be wed. However, I'm pleased and grateful that he is instructing me well on points of doctrine.

[Onthedope]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Women wanting to wear men's clothes is the issue here, you ignoramus. How many ways does God have to tell you women are to be subservient to men before it gets though your silly pony-sexing skull?

What do pant have to do with dominance
Pants at the end of the day is just another article of clothing not a sign of stature or class
And how am I wearing men's clothing when it's women clothing
There is distinction between male and female clothing

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

What do pant have to do with dominance
Pants at the end of the day is just another article of clothing not a sign of stature or class
And how am I wearing men's clothing when it's women clothing
There is distinction between male and female clothing

God wouldn't have brought it up if it weren't important. You've already admitted you know next to nothing about Christianity and now you're trying to lecture us about what God likes and considers an abomination.

Why not stop making up what you think God would want based on what you personally think is fair and just and actually check out if God thinks the same as you in actual fact?

[Onthedope]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

God wouldn't have brought it up if it weren't important. You've already admitted you know next to nothing about Christianity and now you're trying to lecture us about what God likes and considers an abomination.

Why not stop making up what you think God would want based on what you personally think is fair and just and actually check out if God thinks the same as you in actual fact?

Considering the sheer specificity of Deut 22:5 and the precise nature of those things that are forbidden, Deut 22:5 is most likely ceremonial law rather than moral law, which would mean that it would have little, if any, implications for Christians today. Many believe, however, that this verse still applies to us today because this verse states that violators of this law are an abomination to God and that which was an abomination to God in the Old Testament would also be an abomination to God in the New Testament. However, the usage of the word abomination in Deut 22:5 does not necessarily make it a timeless moral law because any violation of God’s mandates is an abomination to Him, whether it is a violation of ceremonial law or moral law. Furthermore, Deut 22:5 is placed squarely in the middle of, and is completely surrounded by, ceremonial laws. If it is indeed a principle to be literally followed today, why would God choose to bury this verse in the middle of what are clearly ceremonial laws?

The second argument against Christian women wearing pants is that pants have historically been worn by and associated with men and are therefore men’s clothing. One problem with this view is that it is not a consistently applied principle among those that advocate it. Many of the articles of clothing have histories of originating with a certain sex. Consider t-shirts – these too were invented for men and originally worn exclusively by men. The t-shirt was introduced to America during WWI when American soldiers noticed European soldiers wearing them. By WWII, the t-shirt became standard issue in the American military and was quickly introduced into American fashion.6 Not only were t-shirts originally invented for men, but they were invented specifically for the military. Considering this in light of the true meaning of Deut 22:5, which seems to be forbidding women from wearing the habiliments of a soldier, it would logically follow that a woman wearing a t-shirt would be in much greater violation of this verse than a woman wearing pants. Furthermore, there is no distinction between men’s and women’s t-shirts.

If clothing history is the sole determining factor of what constitutes clothing that pertains to a man, then t-shirts must be forbidden as well if consistency is to be maintained. It would seem that in practice, however, those that teach that it is a sin for women to wear pants seem to believe that clothing distinctions only apply to what is worn on the legs while ignoring the obvious about other types of clothing commonly worn by women. In order for the teaching to be consistent, the very reasons cited for prohibiting women from wearing pants would also prohibit women from wearing t-shirts, baseball caps, team jerseys, work boots and any other article of clothing historically worn by men. Taking the concept even further, what of the color pink or blue? Should women also be forbidden to wear blue, or should men forbidden to wear pink, as these colors have historically been associated with the opposite sex? How far should this concept be taken?

Finally, the third argument, which states that God requires a distinction between men’s and women’s clothing and that pants provide little if any distinction, must also be weighed in light of the scriptures. The scriptures, as with most matters, provide a wealth of information on this issue as well.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Hateful anti-Christian copy/paste propaganda.

So you can't actually just read the Bible and take in God's message, you have to go and search for scripture twisters online and vomit their thoughts into our godly forums. Have you no shame?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Ceremonial law? Is that some sort of Papist propaganda? I've never heard of it.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

What do pant have to do with dominance
Pants at the end of the day is just another article of clothing not a sign of stature or class
And how am I wearing men's clothing when it's women clothing
There is distinction between male and female clothing

For a woman to be purely faithful, demonstrating a clean and obedient heart, her attire ought to compliment or reflect that decision. Her attire ought to frame the focus of her life (1 Timothy 2:9-10). And, since our appearance often speaks before words are spoken, it ought to speak Truth. It ought to speak truth and not deception.

Alluring attire, low pants, thin close fitting garments, low-cut blouses, high slit skirts, tight jeans, form fitting pants, accessories that accentuate the breasts or hips, pants that draw attention to the crotch or bottom area---any and all of these have no place in the wardrobe of a changed life---a life of a follower of the LORD Jesus. For the purpose of all of these is not to draw others to Christ but eyes to the flesh.

Consider the Word of the LORD in Galatians 6:6-10

Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

To entice is to set up a brother to stumble and to believe otherwise is both foolish and imprudent. To be careless with our actions is to dig a pit for a brother and dare him to not fall in.

To wear clothing that is provocative, sensual, accentuating, or alluring is to sow to the flesh, to entice the eyes of men and to bring attention to one’s self, not Jesus, and brings the sin of lust/adultery to a man (Matthew 5:28).

To dress in men's clothing, ie, trousers, is to combine the natural sexual impulse of depositing one's seed for Christ with the masculine look of a man. In short, it turns otherwise good men, gay (Leviticus 20:13).

[Onthedope]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

For a woman to be purely faithful, demonstrating a clean and obedient heart, her attire ought to compliment or reflect that decision. Her attire ought to frame the focus of her life (1 Timothy 2:9-10). And, since our appearance often speaks before words are spoken, it ought to speak Truth. It ought to speak truth and not deception.

Alluring attire, low pants, thin close fitting garments, low-cut blouses, high slit skirts, tight jeans, form fitting pants, accessories that accentuate the breasts or hips, pants that draw attention to the crotch or bottom area---any and all of these have no place in the wardrobe of a changed life---a life of a follower of the LORD Jesus. For the purpose of all of these is not to draw others to Christ but eyes to the flesh.

Consider the Word of the LORD in Galatians 6:6-10

Let him that is taught in the word communicate unto him that teacheth in all good things. Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting. And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not. As we have therefore opportunity, let us do good unto all men, especially unto them who are of the household of faith.

To entice is to set up a brother to stumble and to believe otherwise is both foolish and imprudent. To be careless with our actions is to dig a pit for a brother and dare him to not fall in.

To wear clothing that is provocative, sensual, accentuating, or alluring is to sow to the flesh, to entice the eyes of men and to bring attention to one’s self, not Jesus, and brings the sin of lust/adultery to a man (Matthew 5:28).

To dress in men's clothing, ie, trousers, is to combine the natural sexual impulse of depositing one's seed for Christ with the masculine look of a man. In short, it turns otherwise good men, gay (Leviticus 20:13).

Thank you for responding
But I must say some of my opinions differ from yours
It is believed that women should dress modestly ( I couldn't agree more) and that pants are very sexual I will agree to a point because some pants are very modest and skirts are no better
And please answer this if you choose to respond is it considered cross dress if its women clothing?

[Nobar King]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Furthermore, there is no distinction between men’s and women’s t-shirts.

This isn't true, at all. A man's T-shirt is going to have a decent amount of rib around the neckband and a women's shirt is only going to have a 1/2" fold at most to make it look dainty and attractive. Also, women's shirts are slimmer and curved to fit a woman's body.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Thank you for responding

My pleasure.

But I must say some of my opinions differ from yours

Clearly. My opinions are derived straight from the Holy Bible. That is to say, my opinions are not my own. I have no opinion of my own. Like a mirror, I reflect the opinion of the LORD Himself.

It is believed that women should dress modestly ( I couldn't agree more) and that pants are very sexual I will agree to a point because some pants are very modest and skirts are no better

Pants are always immodest on a woman. In the first place, they draw the man's eye straight up the leg to the woman's most private place, the one place the LORD has blessed (1 Timothy 2:15). In the second place, they make a woman to look like a man, thus encouraging men to be attracted to other men, as I already said.

And please answer this if you choose to respond is it considered cross dress if its women clothing?

Not if it's a woman wearing women's clothing.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Thank you for responding
But I must say some of my opinions differ from yours
It is believed that women should dress modestly ( I couldn't agree more) and that pants are very sexual I will agree to a point because some pants are very modest and skirts are no better
And please answer this if you choose to respond is it considered cross dress if its women clothing?

The big issue here friend is to avoid confusion with the men. Putting pants on women temps men into having gay sex. All it takes is just once for a guy to mistake a man for a woman and it is trapped in the devil's world of homosexual sex.

None of us want that.

[ownedproperty]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

Be sure to thank him. Purely out of manly interest... what did he use to beat that into you with and for how long and were you bent over with a bare behind when he did it?

Thank you Sir. I made sure to thank him a lot for correcting me Sir.

My husband decided that since I showed disrespect to God and all true christian men by what I said I was severely disciplined Sir. My husband used a whip and paddle Sir and my husband disciplined me for an hour Sir. Yes Sir, I was bent over with a bare behind Sir. It made it hurt very much as I gave birth to my husband's second son today Sir.

Rebecca

[Onthedope]

Re: A friendly reminder for women who wear pants

The big issue here friend is to avoid confusion with the men. Putting pants on women temps men into having gay sex. All it takes is just once for a guy to mistake a man for a woman and it is trapped in the devil's world of homosexual sex.

None of us want that.

I'm really sorry sir my husband found out I was sending in false information and beat me for it once again I would like to apologize sorry