[OneFailure]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

So basically, you are accusing God of being an idiot who could not even predict behavior of his smartest creation (Genesis 3:1).

That is blasphemy and if you don't repent, you'll go to Hell for it.

No it's not blasphemy. This is the literal reason why he had to send jesus to save us from our sins as a back up plan. Due to Adam and eve listening to that damn snake and due to Lucifer tempting everybody.

I dont blame God for it because hes not responsible for the pride that Satan held in himself. And no I don't think he predicted what Lucifer would do since there were no predictions of it happening during the time Lucifer was a good angel during the time only Heaven and its Angel's and God existed.

[Basilissa]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

No it's not blasphemy. This is the literal reason why he had to send jesus to save us from our sins as a back up plan. Due to Adam and eve listening to that damn snake and due to Lucifer tempting everybody.

I dont blame God for it because hes not responsible for the pride that Satan held in himself. And no I don't think he predicted what Lucifer would do since there were no predictions of it happening during the time Lucifer was a good angel during the time only Heaven and its Angel's and God existed.

So... in this theology that you made up, God doesn't know everything?

Sweetie, do yourself and everyone else a favor and stop proclaiming to be a Christian. You deny everything that the Bible says, so just admit that you made up your own religion and proclaim yourself a prophet or something.

Because these all weird beliefs you have, are in clear contradiction to what the Bible says.

[OneFailure]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

God created devil this way. Also, please read Job to see that God allows the devil to do evil stuff - in Job's case, solely for the amusement of God.

God created Lucifer to be kind and good. It was not his intention for Lucifer to mess everything up. Lucifer had one job and that was to obey God but he had to think to highly of himself and cause God to create the greatest salvation plan in history and here we are now with the battle of armageddon fast approaching. Hopefully the prophecies or Revelation will be fulfilled quickly and everything will be perfect again

[OneFailure]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

So... in this theology that you made up, God doesn't know everything?

Sweetie, do yourself and everyone else a favor and stop proclaiming to be a Christian. You deny everything that the Bible says, so just admit that you made up your own religion and proclaim yourself a prophet or something.

Because these all weird beliefs you have, are in clear contradiction to what the Bible says.

God knows everything since then. I'm not denying that he doesnt know anything he just didnt know his own creation would be so greedy and after the throne itself it was a huge shock to the Angel's and God himself.

Its the second greatest betrayal in history (Judas's betrayal is number one) and it has caused the greatest story ever told

[Basilissa]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

God created Lucifer to be kind and good. It was not his intention for Lucifer to mess everything up.

And the Bible says that you are a hellbound heretic. Read Amos 3:6, Isaiah 45:7, and the book of Job. God commands the devil to commit evil. Everything evil that happens, happens because God ordered it. If you believe anything else, then you are not a Christian but some sort of Neo-Manichean heretic. And you will burn in Hell for it.

God knows everything since then.

Do you not realize how stupid that sounds?

Its the second greatest betrayal in history (Judas's betrayal is number one) and it has caused the greatest story ever told

Here's something else to blow your mind: without Judas there would be no death on the cross, therefore no Redemption. No Easter to celebrate, every human on earth goes to Hell. Judas is not the villain here - he is the second most important hero of this story (after Jesus Himself).

[OneFailure]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

And the Bible says that you are a hellbound heretic. Read Amos 3:6, Isaiah 45:7, and the book of Job. God commands the devil to commit evil. Everything evil that happens, happens because God ordered it. If you believe anything else, then you are not a Christian but some sort of Neo-Manichean heretic. And you will burn in Hell for it.

Do you not realize how stupid that sounds?

Here's something else to blow your mind: without Judas there would be no death on the cross, therefore no Redemption. No Easter to celebrate, every human on earth goes to Hell. Judas is not the villain here - he is the second most important hero of this story (after Jesus Himself).

Dont get me started on Judas being a hero controversy. That's an entirely different subject on it's own. A lot of sects of Christian's argue with eachother on whether he went to heaven or hell, on whether hes a hero or a villian.


What's a neo manichean? Are you being serious right now? XD

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

France is not like Israel when it was disobeying God. They are an entirely separate situation on it's own. Israel is worse then France

You have not posted any Scripture to support your claim. Disobeying God is disobeying God. Hell is the result. What does The Bible tell us?

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

The Notre dame church is not an abomination it's a holy site. The only thing that I do agree on is that it being catholic is bad but I over look that due to how important the site was to Christian's.

This filthy (God's word, not mine) building was designed by, built by and intended for use by people who are not only not Christians. They go beyond mere ignorance by devising the most blasphemous abominations conceivable. These are used to challenge God and were at the time of construction the whole focus of lives and education. How many resources need to be poured in to erect this anti-God cathedral? Where did they come from? There is absolutely NOTHING to do with Christianity in this ruin, it is NOT admired and certainly not "loved" by any Christian. Why do you keep saying that it is?

Look up the reviews for the place and you will find that most will disagree on the statement that it isnt loved

I had tried to help you understand about God and what His standards are. You seem determined to make up your own standards for some reason and here is a good example of where that gets you. No-one is claiming that Notre Dame is unloved. Lots of people love it, admire it, adore and for all I know worship it. But nobody who does that is a Christian.

There are worse places than nortre dame. Like witchcraft booths

Witchcraft booths and Notre Dame are quite the same. A small qualitative difference would be that witchcraft booths are at least honest. Quantitatively though they're both at 100% abomination.

Notre dame was a priceless Christian artifact

No. It has nothing to do with Christianity. It was not designed as a Christian place to be. It was not built as a Christian structure. Nothing taking place inside it is in any way Christian. Everyone going in there was going into the presence of anti-God and everything they did in there glorified anti-God.

Imagine a baby mincing machine. The babies are taken live and forced into the thing, extruded through cutting blades but they take care to see no baby is instantly minced. Sometimes it's on, sometimes it's off and when it's off is when a baby is partially minced but still conscious. ON - "Good," the baby thinks, "soon I'll be dead." OFF - haha, only joking ON AGAIN - and they bring in the mother to check out the final stages.

God is that mother.

Isaiah 66:13-15 As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem. And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies. For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

The babies are the souls He's created taken and destroyed by indoctrination, by lies and blasphemy, by genocide extortion rape murder and slavery. That is where the money came from to build this monstrous thing, yes monstrous like every cathedral, every hall of false teaching, and God has watched as every soul forced into the foul device was drawn out over a lifetime, extruded into hell forever.

Where in this picture does your assessment fit? Well, what you're doing is to say "Oh but look at the attractive metal casting, the gentle curve of the mincing handle!" God does not enjoy seeing the souls He created taken and minced. It doesn't matter if they're Hebrew souls minced in Jerusalem or French souls minced in Paris. It's the same abomination, it glorifies anti-God and it has nothing to do with Christianity.

[DolliMoans]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

You have not posted any Scripture to support your claim.

I'm feeling deja vu over this One Failure. My forehead is getting more red hand prints every time I read their posts.

[OneFailure]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

You have not posted any Scripture to support your claim. Disobeying God is disobeying God. Hell is the result. What does The Bible tell us?

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

This filthy (God's word, not mine) building was designed by, built by and intended for use by people who are not only not Christians. They go beyond mere ignorance by devising the most blasphemous abominations conceivable. These are used to challenge God and were at the time of construction the whole focus of lives and education. How many resources need to be poured in to erect this anti-God cathedral? Where did they come from? There is absolutely NOTHING to do with Christianity in this ruin, it is NOT admired and certainly not "loved" by any Christian. Why do you keep saying that it is?
I had tried to help you understand about God and what His standards are. You seem determined to make up your own standards for some reason and here is a good example of where that gets you. No-one is claiming that Notre Dame is unloved. Lots of people love it, admire it, adore and for all I know worship it. But nobody who does that is a Christian.
Witchcraft booths and Notre Dame are quite the same. A small qualitative difference would be that witchcraft booths are at least honest. Quantitatively though they're both at 100% abomination.
No. It has nothing to do with Christianity. It was not designed as a Christian place to be. It was not built as a Christian structure. Nothing taking place inside it is in any way Christian. Everyone going in there was going into the presence of anti-God and everything they did in there glorified anti-God.

Imagine a baby mincing machine. The babies are taken live and forced into the thing, extruded through cutting blades but they take care to see no baby is instantly minced. Sometimes it's on, sometimes it's off and when it's off is when a baby is partially minced but still conscious. ON - "Good," the baby thinks, "soon I'll be dead." OFF - haha, only joking ON AGAIN - and they bring in the mother to check out the final stages.

God is that mother.

Isaiah 66:13-15 As one whom his mother comforteth, so will I comfort you; and ye shall be comforted in Jerusalem. And when ye see this, your heart shall rejoice, and your bones shall flourish like an herb: and the hand of the LORD shall be known toward his servants, and his indignation toward his enemies. For, behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.

The babies are the souls He's created taken and destroyed by indoctrination, by lies and blasphemy, by genocide extortion rape murder and slavery. That is where the money came from to build this monstrous thing, yes monstrous like every cathedral, every hall of false teaching, and God has watched as every soul forced into the foul device was drawn out over a lifetime, extruded into hell forever.

Where in this picture does your assessment fit? Well, what you're doing is to say "Oh but look at the attractive metal casting, the gentle curve of the mincing handle!" God does not enjoy seeing the souls He created taken and minced. It doesn't matter if they're Hebrew souls minced in Jerusalem or French souls minced in Paris. It's the same abomination, it glorifies anti-God and it has nothing to do with Christianity.

What in the world is anti God?:/


It's a church like any other church. The only false teaching it did was Catholicism and I admit that however it's by definition a Christian artifact

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

What in the world is anti God?:/ It's a church like any other church. The only false teaching it did was Catholicism and I admit that however it's by definition a Christian artifact

Admit? It was you making the claim in the first place!


anti-

anti
adjective, preposition informal

opposed to or against a particular thing or person:
We've received a lot of anti letters about that newspaper article.
Just because I won't join you, it doesn't mean that I'm anti you.
Opposite
pro

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/anti

• Here are some more examples.

antipoverty = opposed to poverty
antivenom = works in opposition to venom
antifascist = someone opposed to fascism
antianxiety = opposing anxiety
antislavery = opposed to slavery
antidisestablishmentarianism = opposed to disestablishing the Church (in places where it is established)


• When used as a prefix a hyphen is sometimes helpful for clarity.

anti-pope = someone opposed to popes (as distinct from an actual antipope)
anti-investgation = someone opposed to an investgation (such as a shopkeeper working an insurance scam)
anti-American = opposed to America


• Sometimes the word anti- will be used on its own in a sentence.

The department was neither anti- nor pro-anything.
"Would you say you were more anti- or pro-athletics?"
Doctors seemed very pro-taking-your-temperature but were not noticeably anti- or pro-ice-packs as such.


Christians are not anti-God. I think you can now see that whatever went on in Notre Dame (or any other cathedral) has nothing to do with God or with Christianity.

Which raises the question, since they are clearly anti-God, why exactly were they built? For a start, why are they called cathedrals?

That would be a good place for you to start.

[OneFailure]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

Admit? It was you making the claim in the first place!


anti-

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/anti

• Here are some more examples.

antipoverty = opposed to poverty
antivenom = works in opposition to venom
antifascist = someone opposed to fascism
antianxiety = opposing anxiety
antislavery = opposed to slavery
antidisestablishmentarianism = opposed to disestablishing the Church (in places where it is established)


• When used as a prefix a hyphen is sometimes helpful for clarity.

anti-pope = someone opposed to popes (as distinct from an actual antipope)
anti-investgation = someone opposed to an investgation (such as a shopkeeper working an insurance scam)
anti-American = opposed to America


• Sometimes the word anti- will be used on its own in a sentence.

The department was neither anti- nor pro-anything.
"Would you say you were more anti- or pro-athletics?"
Doctors seemed very pro-taking-your-temperature but were not noticeably anti- or pro-ice-packs as such.


Christians are not anti-God. I think you can now see that whatever went on in Notre Dame (or any other cathedral) has nothing to do with God or with Christianity.

Which raises the question, since they are clearly anti-God, why exactly were they built? For a start, why are they called cathedrals?

That would be a good place for you to start.

How are they anti God though when they clearly do worship god

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

How are they anti God though when they clearly do worship god

Perhaps you missed this (highlighted in blue) in my post?

Christians are not anti-God.

Christians worship God. Whoever goes into Notre Dame does not worship God and therefore clearly are not Christians.

God has explained how He is to be worshipped. That does not happen in any cathedral. In addition God has told us what not to do. That does happen in every cathedral. There is no such thing as a Christian cathedral because there is no such thing as a Christian cathedra. Why were these buildings made in the first place?

They were made to mock God. NOT to worship God. They are anti-God BECAUSE they mock God. Whatever God has commanded, they do the exact opposite. It's pretty easy really. What do you think it means to "worship God?"

[OneFailure]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

Perhaps you missed this (highlighted in blue) in my post?

Christians are not anti-God.

Christians worship God. Whoever goes into Notre Dame does not worship God and therefore clearly are not Christians.

God has explained how He is to be worshipped. That does not happen in any cathedral. In addition God has told us what not to do. That does happen in every cathedral. There is no such thing as a Christian cathedral because there is no such thing as a Christian cathedra. Why were these buildings made in the first place?

They were made to mock God. NOT to worship God. They are anti-God BECAUSE they mock God. Whatever God has commanded, they do the exact opposite. It's pretty easy really. What do you think it means to "worship God?"

Catholics go into Notre dame they worship God of christianity but they mess up alot of the scripture

[OneFailure]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

Catholics go into Notre dame they worship God of christianity but they mess up alot of the scripture

Christian's also go to Notre dame. Alls I'm saying is that it doesnt matter how bad they are at this moment. Notre dame was an artifact beloved by two major abrahamic religions that has been damaged. Its sad

[Jim C. Lombardo]

Re: God (or possibly terrorists sent by Him) smite some famous French Catholic shack.

So you admit that Catholics are a race separate from Christians? That's a good start! Keep it up!