Andrew

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

Ridiculous! Formerly Prince Andrew has been stripped of his salutations quicker than an underage prostitute on a private island vacation with <redacted> <redacted> <redacted>. So now we're supposed to just call him Andrew? Andy? The Drewster? Disgusting how the world's lost all respect for its superiors.

[Roland]

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I never had any respect for Andrew. He mentioned he does not sweat and gets some medical expert to proclaim it is some horse related disease. The guy never worked a day in his life, that is why he did not sweat.
Now he has to face a court and all of sudden he can sweat again.

I don´t know if his previous behavior was wrong in a Biblical sense, the lying about it seems to be: Proverbs 12:22.

[James Hutchins]

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I've met Andrew quite a few times and found him to be affable. I am unaware of him having relations with any direct family members (always a sign of a good man). I know he carried a Bible with him at all times and was quick with a verse.
At many of these spas, you never know the ages of these attendants and after they drug you (they always drug you) you have no ability to stop them from taking advantage of you over and over. Andrew is getting on in years (aren't we all!) making all the more easy.
At least Andrew is not a whore like that Markels person!

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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Cancel culture getting out of control.

Canada’s Prince Andrew high school announces plan to change name

The school has formed a six-person committee, comprising students, staff and community members as it begins the search for a new name. A local paper suggested Black civil rights leaders, trailblazing politicians, a slain police officer or the Indigenous name for the region as possible contenders for the rebranded school.

I suggest Andrew stay one step ahead and change his name to whatever abomination they come with. Now what Gayman Luther King Floyd Elementary?

[WWJDnow]

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If I weren't a True Christian(TM), I'd suggest that they give Andrew the title of Royal F**kup. Yes, it's all really the fault of the teenaged Jezebel, but Andrew has handled this abysmally. Doesn't he know that crying and saying "Lord, I have sinned against you" is a sure path to public forgiveness? It's a shame Andrew didn't reach out to Pastor Zeke for guidance when the scandal first broke.

[handmaiden]

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As I indicated on another thread, there is NO indication that Andrew had relations with pre-pubescent girls. That would be awful.

However, if evidence can be demonstrated that Andrew engaged in sexual acts with young women who were clearly women but simply below some arbitrary age of consent then the issue really comes back to who decided that a female of any age should be consulted regarding consent.

The Biblical standard is clear. Before marriage, a woman's father decides the who and when of his daughter's sexual availability. If a man is willing to pay the proper bride price, the lady is his to enjoy. And if any other man takes it upon himself to enjoy the husband's wife, it is the husband who is the injured party, not the wife.

Now, setting aside the issue of marriage-- and really a fellow with Andrew's royal title would have been allowed as many wives as he could afford back when people listened to The Lord's prophets-- this whole situation does have a feel of some sort of prostitution organization. If this is the case, how should a follower of God look at the matter?

The answer, as always, is to look at things the way that God looks at them. If you read the Bible, you will see numerous examples in which The Lord rails against prostitutes. What is interesting is how little is said in condemnation of the prostitutes' customers.

When Judah wanted to burn his widowed daughter-in-law for having engaged in prostitution, he was convinced to not do so because the daughter-in-law had proof that he was the one who had paid for the use of her body and had fathered her unborn child. Reading the story, we see that Judah repented of his anger in wanting to burn the young woman. But nowhere in the text do we read a clear declaration of judgment on him for having visited a prostitute.

So, if Almighty God Himself seems to understand that sometimes a man just needs to purchase his ease with a woman, then who are we to condemn the man in question? Yes, there will be those who question this concept, but before anyone decides to post a verse refuting this idea, please make certain which party in such a transaction is being condemned. I am open for enlightenment.*






* But closed for business, if you know what I mean. I'm not that sort.

[Didymus Much]

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... Doesn't he know that crying and saying "Lord, I have sinned against you" is a sure path to public forgiveness? ...

And then going down the waterslide (verrrry important component of redemption seeking).

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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Andrew and that woman - finally - agree on a price.

Prince Andrew settles sexual abuse lawsuit with Virginia Giuffre – live updates

[Basilissa]

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Andrew and that woman - finally - agree on a price.

Prince Andrew settles sexual abuse lawsuit with Virginia Giuffre – live updates

I think there's a typo there - shouldn't it read "Andrew and the father of that woman - finally - agree on a price?"

[Dr. Anthony J. Toole]

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I think there's a typo there - shouldn't it read "Andrew and the father husband of that woman - finally - agree on a price?"

FTFYFM

[handmaiden]

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I think there's a typo there - shouldn't it read "Andrew and the father of that woman - finally - agree on a price?"

Yes, thank you Sister Basilissa, for bringing this issue back to its Bible basics.

People have to be reminded--no matter how many times that it takes-- that in matters of sexually impropriety it is the father of an unmarried girl who is the aggrieved party. The girl may have been unwilling, in which case she is not to be subjected to an excruciating execution, but the victim is clearly identified as the father due to first, the financial considerations, then the matter of family honor or whatever.


This whole, unfortunate story has been a sordid example of the breakdown in traditional morals. I don't even know who this young woman's father is. Why has his voice been ignored?

[Joanna Lytton-Vasey]

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Indeed, sisters, much as it pains me to disagree with a man, I fear that Brother Dr. Toole is mistaken here. At the time of the alleged probably non-offense, the young woman was not yet married. She was therefore her father's property at the time.

As Sister Handy points out, her father has been strangely silent in all this. Has anyone - perhaps her mother? - ever known for sure who he is?

In any event, it is good news that this sordid affair has been put to rest thanks to the power of the US$.

[Phil Ander]

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Andrew should be able to make the payment without too much problems. No sweat.

[Isabella White]

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Andrew should be able to make the payment without too much problems. No sweat.

Apparently, Andrew's mother will be helping to pay his bill. What a terrible burden for a poor, old lady to bear, but that's what happens to those who cling to their Cathyolick roots. A , however, would have always the protection of Almighty .

Deuteronomy 20:4 "For the your is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you."

The Queen is to foot part of the bill for Prince Andrew's sexual abuse lawsuit, which could end up costing some £12 million, reports claimed tonight.The humiliated Duke of York's mother is said to be set to help fund the settlement, which was agreed between lawyers in a sensational development on Tuesday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10515637/Prince-Andrew-reached-settlement-principle-Virginia-Giuffre.html

[Basilissa]

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Apparently, Andrew's mother will be helping to pay his bill.

So.... basically, what you are saying, is that English taxpayers are paying for Andrew's frolicking escapades?