[jmun1116]

Originally Posted by WilliamJenningsBryan

What does any of this have to do with the price of silver?

You sound like a Democrat - just like Roosevelt who confiscated gold from Americans to finance his socialist spending schemes through inflation (better known as theft). Such things are an abomination to the Lord.

Your right what does raping virgins have to do with the price of silver? I thought since you were all off topic I'd go on a rant about few things..one was the Jew's and Judaism deceiving all the world while using Christianity and spitting on Jesus. You guy's are better than the other political correct douche bag Christians I see who have some watered down Christianity though. Anyways again I'm busy right now.

How do I edit previous post? I would have just added this instead of making a new post.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Originally Posted by jmun1116

Your on this forum talking about raping virgins and selling people because it's what in the OLD TESTAMENT...I'm sure Christ would be quite happy with that.

Why would He have included these rules in the first place if He wasn't happy about them?

[Basilissa]

Originally Posted by jmun1116

I'm a libertarian, and I can't stand leftist progressive liberals they're not even liberals Thomas Jefferson was a liberal.

Good for you, sweetie!

I never said NOT to follow the ten commandments,

Which are in the Old Testament. See the problem with your logic?

I said the things you guy's are talking about on here are nonsense.
Your on this forum talking about raping virgins and selling people because it's what in the OLD TESTAMENT...I'm sure Christ would be quite happy with that.

Indeed.

Matthew 5:17-19
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Please note that this passage does not say "follow the 10 Commandments but disregard the remaining 600+." It says, follow all commandments.

So yes, Jesus clearly says that He will be happy if we follow all of the OT commandments.

Who told me it has nothing to do with being a blood semite? The Bible did. Go read the passages before and after as well quite clear what's being said.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. I was quoting New testament, not Old Testament.

And that passage refers to an Old Testament passage. Another proof that if your want to be a Christian then you cannot throw away the Old Testament and only follow the New Testament.

Also you guy's are like Nazi's on here giving me infractions and telling me not to be rude but I'm not, you sound like the democrats.

That was a weird mental shortcut, could you please explain the logic of your line of thought, because I do not follow it?

I'm busy but I'll get back to this more later.

I'll be here all week.

[Alvin Moss]

Originally Posted by jmun1116

you sound like the democrats.

Strong language is never welcome.

[H. Montague Worthington]

Let's not fight amongst ourselves, it's unproductive and doesn't look good to the people coming to this forum for facts, rational argument and Godly advice. And besides, the REAL enemy is the International Jew Conspiracy to control our financial system, which employs naive liberal Demoncrats as their mouthpieces and the Negro as their muscle.

[MitzaLizalor]

It always amazes me when postmodern snowflakes get some deconstructivist wind in their sails. If God's standard no longer applies why can't we just run around blaspheming and making idols and going to orgies then, tired but happy, roll up to Heaven and get in on the guest list?

Micah 2:1 Woe to them that devise iniquity, and work evil upon their beds! when the morning is light, they practise it, because it is in the power of their hand.

Without God's standard remaining in force why would we need to appeal to Jesus for the sacrifice God requires? Rotten from birth, how could we ever bring sufficient a price for our own redemption? That price is paid in blood. God's standard is perfect and if it did not remain current no blood would be required and Jesus would be unnecessary. John explains it this way:

I John 2:7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

That Word is Jesus through whom everything was created. He even created Heaven! And obviously, since He is God, the commandment we have from Him is not one that changes from person to person according to how they "identify" or from moment to moment according to how we feel. That is why John wrote:

I John 2:8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

In this thread the question of values has been raised and in a recent reply I'd intended to link back here as a source but was tired and forgot to do so which works out quite well because I can include the chart here. In different circumstances a person may have differing values, as determined by God, and He specifies the correct weight of metal for us in shekels of silver. Silver is a little heavier than copper but not as heavy as gold.

NY spot silver close 2018-05-25

AGE	M/f	SILVER	ozt	$
under 1 month. .	-	0
up to 5 years	. . .female. . .	3 shekels	1.09	18.10
up to 5 years	Male	5 shekels	1.82	30.17
5-20 years	female	10 shekels	3.64	60.34
5-20 years	Male	20 shekels	7.29	120.68
20-60 years	female	30 shekels	10.94	181.05
20-60 years	Male	50 shekels	. . .18.23	. . .301.70
over 60 years	female	10 shekels	3.64	60.34
over 60 years	Male	. .15 shekels. .	5.47	90.95

https://silverprice.org/silver-price-per-ounce.html

https://m.convert-me.com/en/convert/weight/

[Wavington]

How much is 1000 shekels of silver in US dollars?

[Isabella White]

Originally Posted by Wavington

How much is 1000 shekels of silver in US dollars?

Greetings, Miss Wavington: to , at . It appears that you are new here, and we would love to get to know you. Please visit our Introduction Forum, where you can post a message to introduce yourself to the believers here at .

The link to our Introduction Forum is below, and you can post your message by clicking on the blue "New Thread" button on the upper left of your screen. Kindly remember to fulfill the requests that are at the top of that page.

https://www.landoverbaptist.net/forumdisplay.php?f=16

Thank you, and may God richly bless you, as you seek as your and here, at ... Sincerely, Isabella W.

P.S. To answer your question regarding shekels, I'm afraid that I do not have the answer to that. I am a librarian (retired) and a book-burner of things that are a sin in the eyes of the . As I am not a financial analyst, I do pray that one of our Godly Menfolk with financial expertise will assist you. Now, don't forget to visit our Introduction Forum, Dear.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Isabella White

You see what happens? I went to all the trouble of looking up what a shekel was and the price of silver (which actually I do keep my eye on due to the question of "underinsurance" which arises occasionally) and making a chart directly from The Bible with my sources linked, after all I could have misunderstood, and this cretin turns up wanting to know what 1,000 shekels is? Obviously it's a thousand times one. shekel do they even flunk grade school?

[Isabella White]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

You see what happens? I went to all the trouble of looking up what a shekel was and the price of silver (which actually I do keep my eye on due to the question of "underinsurance" which arises occasionally) and making a chart directly from The Bible with my sources linked, after all I could have misunderstood, and this cretin turns up wanting to know what 1,000 shekels is? Obviously it's a thousand times one. shekel do they even flunk grade school?

Amen, Dear Sister Mitza, Amen!! I know exactly what you're going through. I had to ask that newcomer (and very kindly so, I might add) AT LEAST THREE TIMES to do a proper introduction on our Introduction Forum. I had no intention of hazarding an explanation about the shekels, though, and may the bless you for your patience, Dear.

A blessed day to you, Dear Sister Mitza,
Sincerely, Isabella W.
P.S. -- And what excuse did I get from that NOOB regarding his avoidance of not complying with our Introduction Forum requests? Why, none other than the usual, "I am doing this on my phone". It seems they can do everything else just fine on their blasted phones, except following one little request to provide three bits of information!

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Isabella White

Amen, Dear Sister Mitza, Amen!! I know exactly what you're going through. I had to ask that newcomer (and very kindly so, I might add) AT LEAST THREE TIMES to do a proper introduction on our Introduction Forum. I had no intention of hazarding an explanation about the shekels, though, and may the bless you for your patience, Dear.

A blessed day to you, Dear Sister Mitza,
Sincerely, Isabella W.
P.S. -- And what excuse did I get from that NOOB regarding his avoidance of not complying with our Introduction Forum requests? Why, none other than the usual, "I am doing this on my phone". It seems they can do everything else just fine on their blasted phones, except following one little request to provide three bits of information!

Well if you can type a question about shekels on a phone (which had actually been answered in the immediately preceding post) surely you could type "Hi there! My name is Rumpelstiltskin. Today do I bake, tomorrow I stew, but right now I'd look like an alien from the planer Spfthlurrgh so can't hide behind folklore and am keeping a low profile.." or something. Anything. I just typed that didn't I?

This is what happens when prayer is taken out of school.

[Isabella White]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Well if you can type a question about shekels on a phone (which had actually been answered in the immediately preceding post) surely you could type "Hi there! My name is Rumpelstiltskin. Today do I bake, tomorrow I stew, but right now I'd look like an alien from the planer Spfthlurrgh so can't hide behind folklore and am keeping a low profile.." or something. Anything. I just typed that didn't I?

This is what happens when prayer is taken out of school.

Oh, that is so true, dear Sister Mitza; so true, indeed! With prayer having been removed from schools (and don't get me started about how they don't teach lessons from the ), is it any wonder that the youngsters of today are on such a perilous path? Now, I do know that it can be difficult to type on those phone thingies. I don't use one because, at 84, my eyesight is not what it used to be and I have trouble seeing the screen, let alone the ridiculously-small keypad. But the young ones can do anything on their gadgets, and you've proved very nicely that almost anybody can use the phones for their messages. But it boils down to this: that NOOB only wanted information and she had no real intention of making a proper introduction. I might be wrong, but I have my doubts that we shall see that one again.

A blessed day to you, Dear Sister Mitza,
Sincerely, Isabella W.

[Wavington]

Sorry for the stupid question I’m sorry if I offended y’all.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Originally Posted by Wavington

Sorry for the stupid question I’m sorry if I offended y’all.

Fat and stupid is no way to go through life son. You sound just like that Johnson boy that hopped my fence and dove into my pool while it empty to be re-gold leafed.

If you have 1,000 silver shekels, you should be giving them to the Church, where it can do me some good, not sitting in a box in your closet.

[MitzaLizalor]

Thank you Pastor for reminding us to stay on topic. It's simple enough to enter "shekel" for a search and post the results here for reference. Similarly for silver prices. But the real purpose for doing that, the reason why silver shekels are significant, can easily be overlooked.

The Bible is our most important communication from God. It's important because without it we'd know nothing about Salvation. Value systems cooked up by the likes of Epicurus or John Stuart Mill are not based on God's values and could never attain Redemption on our behalf. Jesus did just that. The Bible records those events together with many words from Jesus on a range of topics, helping to educate us, and the values ordained by God explaining why Jesus had to die.

Some of those values relate to different types of person and address compensation to owners when someone is damaged. Others present money values where The Temple is involved. There are different metals used as money from time to time and although we now use fiat currencies—with values determined arbitrarily—metals such as gold or silver (and a few others) still have an actual value.

Godlessness denies us the understanding of our fallen condition from which only blood can rescue. And not just any old blood. Living blood from Christ, above any value we could ever comprehend but spelled out in God's value system which is preserved for us in The Bible. Without it how could we ever know Jesus lived at all? He died to set us free.

[PeterJack]

at least now we know the real price they sell Jesus

[Isabella White]

Originally Posted by PeterJack

at least now we know the real price they sell Jesus

Oh, my! I see that you are new to us, Mr. Jack, and to you I do extend a warm I see that you have, somehow or another, bypassed our cordial Introduction Forum, which is where we like our newcomers to post a proper introductory message to the servants of . If it's not too much to ask of you, I wonder if I might re-direct you to that forum, which is linked here:

https://www.landoverbaptist.net/forumdisplay.php?f=16

Once you're there, please remember to pay very close attention to our friendly request at the top of the page, which I shall also include here:

The introduction forum Attention Unsaved Trash: This the ONLY subforum you can start threads in. Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

I thank you for doing this for us, and we look forward to reading your introductory greeting.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by PeterJack

at least now we know the real price they sell Jesus

The Israeli shekel as a unit of currency is not the same as the unit of weight used in ancient times for precious metals, usually gold or silver. For example if a pound (weight) of silver was used as the basis for the pound sterling (currency) the exchange rate for GBP to ILS would be different.

Examples of which currency units were used as "pieces of silver" from different dates are:

588BC Jeremiah 32:6-10

520BC Zechariah 11:8-13

30AD Matthew 27:3-8

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Originally Posted by jmun1116

I see this is a "Baptist" church forum but all of this stuff I see on here is old testament nonsense, as if your some kind of Jews like Moses or something.

Do none of you realize we are no longer bound to the old testament as Christians?

The stuff like in Leviticus about not marking your body or masturbating is stuff we're no longer bound too.

The NEW TESTAMENT is a NEW COVENANT with GOD through JESUS CHRIST and it's what your supposed to follow if it's not in the NEW TESTAMENT then frankly it doesn't matter.

An interesting rant. There is a copy of a similar, late 17th Century, "rant" in the Library of Congress. The writer was later found to be "possessed by demons".

Jesus believed that the Old Testament was divinely inspired, the veritable Word of God. He said, ‘The Scripture cannot be broken’ (John 10:35). He referred to Scripture as ‘the commandment of God’ (Matthew 15:3) and as the ‘Word of God’ (Mark 7:13). He also indicated that it was indestructible: ‘Until Heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or stroke shall pass away from the law, until all is accomplished’ (Matthew 5:18).

Are you some sort of atheist/Catlick?


(As nothing as been heard of him in several years, I assume that the poster has been smitten and condemned to Hell. Nevertheless, I have decided to leave my post as it is as information to others who would dismiss half of God's Word.)

[upchucker67]

As an expert in theonomics, this is something I know all about. From my estimate, shekels are about as valuable as cockle shells today. In the mid-century, war drove all Jew endeavours and values to astronomically bottomless levels, and that includes the little chips they called currency. This was part of the plan -- wound them where it hurts, namely their money. Effectively, since the US ultimately won that war, the shekel cannot compare to the US dollar, I'd say not even 0.000051% a fraction of its initial value. When clients come to me, I don't even need to tell them to throw their shekels away as I don't take on Jew clients in the first place. So, for most normal people the shekel debate is a non-issue.