[I am not Saved]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

And what about the man that she lured into rape her, acording to secular law he will end in prisson, where he probably will get rapedby other men, you dont think he will be mentally affected? AND we all know that theresmore mental to be affected in a man than in a woman.

You realy need to think the entire senarie through

Seriously you've been on my back all day long!!!

[Voll_EQ]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Seriously you've been on my back all day long!!!

Im not "on your back", i am trying to help you, i realy wish that you see the good of God, and all the good work he does, i will not give up on you, please join us, become a Christian follower, read the KJV 1611 and start your live as a Christian

Acts 17:27

That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Does God condone rape???

Yep!

Judges 21

10And the congregation sent thither twelve thousand men of the valiantest, and commanded them, saying, Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead with the edge of the sword, with the women and the children. 11And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man. 12And they found among the inhabitants of Jabeshgilead four hundred young virgins, that had known no man by lying with any male: and they brought them unto the camp to Shiloh, which is in the land of Canaan.

I mean who would want to take a woman that's not a virgin by force? What if she was already pregnant with another man's son? That would, in any case, be adultery. Far better to kill her.

16Then the elders of the congregation said, How shall we do for wives for them that remain, seeing the women are destroyed out of Benjamin? 17And they said, There must be an inheritance for them that be escaped of Benjamin, that a tribe be not destroyed out of Israel. 18Howbeit we may not give them wives of our daughters: for the children of Israel have sworn, saying, Cursed be he that giveth a wife to Benjamin.

The elders were faced with a knotty problem, for sure, but they knew their Godly values.

19Then they said, Behold, there is a feast of the LORD in Shiloh yearly in a place which is on the north side of Bethel, on the east side of the highway that goeth up from Bethel to Shechem, and on the south of Lebonah. 20Therefore they commanded the children of Benjamin, saying, Go and lie in wait in the vineyards; 21And see, and, behold, if the daughters of Shiloh come out to dance in dances, then come ye out of the vineyards, and catch you every man his wife of the daughters of Shiloh, and go to the land of Benjamin. 22And it shall be, when their fathers or their brethren come unto us to complain, that we will say unto them, Be favourable unto them for our sakes: because we reserved not to each man his wife in the war: for ye did not give unto them at this time, that ye should be guilty. 23And the children of Benjamin did so, and took them wives, according to their number, of them that danced, whom they caught: and they went and returned unto their inheritance, and repaired the cities, and dwelt in them. 24And the children of Israel departed thence at that time, every man to his tribe and to his family, and they went out from thence every man to his inheritance.

This sorted out a problem and no mistake! Now every one of the disgruntled soldiers who hadn't managed to bag themselves a virgin had one for themselves so there was no resentment. How clever!

[Voll_EQ]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Dear Redeemed Papist, am i correct in asumeing that:

God condone rape, IF the female is a Virgin AND the rapist mary her, and pay her father (and ofcourse if theres someone seeing them), as Deuteronomy 22:28-29

While he will punish rape, if the female already belong to a man as of Deuteronomy 22:25-27

So it all dependant on the situation?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Dear Redeemed Papist, am i correct in asumeing that:

God condone rape, IF the female is a Virgin AND the rapist mary her, and pay her father (and ofcourse if theres someone seeing them), as Deuteronomy 22:28-29

While he will punish rape, if the female already belong to a man as of Deuteronomy 22:25-27

So it all dependant on the situation?

The Bible does not contradict itself. It's all a matter of whose property the woman is. Warfare makes things your property.

[Voll_EQ]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

The Bible does not contradict itself.

Ofcourse not..... hmm my english is still bad :-)

But as i understand, IF the woman already belongs to another man then God don't condone rape, as this would be something like stealing.

And God don't condone rape in the case that the rapist refuse to mary the previous virgin or pay her father?

I am not asking to be rude or to go against Gods words, but i am trying to learn, and only a True Christian ™ will be able to teach me.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Ofcourse not..... hmm my english is still bad :-)

But as i understand, IF the woman already belongs to another man then God don't condone rape, as this would be something like stealing.

And God don't condone rape in the case that the rapist refuse to mary the previous virgin or pay her father?

I am not asking to be rude or to go against Gods words, but i am trying to learn, and only a True Christian ™ will be able to teach me.

It would be adultery, of course, if the woman was married. If she's a betrothed virgin then he has spoiled the plans of her father and future husband which is plain rude and has ruined the potential of the woman as well so he must die.

Of course, if she's not promised to anyone else then it's down to him to marry her and offer payment as compensation to her father.

Needless to say, if the betrothed/married woman consented then she must die.

This idea that women belong to themselves is not Biblical.

[Voll_EQ]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Ok Thanks alot, this was what i thought, but again, my english is not to good

This idea that women belong to themselves is not Biblical.

I Never had that idea, no matter what the Christian woman will alwayes belong to a man.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Ok Thanks alot, this was what i thought, but again, my english is not to good



I Never had that idea, no matter what the Christian woman will alwayes belong to a man.

Sometimes we are posting so that others will read and learn. As they follow this conversation they will see what God really wants from them.

[Voll_EQ]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Sometimes we are posting so that others will read and learn. As they follow this conversation they will see what God really wants from them.

Yes this is why i ask in puplic, i could easily ask in a private message, but then just I and not others would have benefit of it, beside i am convinced that if my question is out of line, I would be told so by a True Christian ™.

And thanks again dear Redeemed Papist for your patience with me, i hope that i someday will be allowed to call you friend

[Sppok1]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

I signed up to just say, fully expecting a prompt banning, that for a group that hates muslims, what you espouse sounds alot like sharia law. And BTW, Jesus was a jew and therefor so are you. Also, that also makes him a [Racial Slur Deleted] as one put it many pages back. It is ignorant backward people like you that make me glad to be an atheist and that the government is non-theistic. Put the oval office in the hands of this "church" of hate and the US will be set back 4000 years.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

I signed up to just say, fully expecting a prompt banning, that for a group that hates muslims, what you espouse sounds alot like sharia law.

Nobody here hates Muslims. We hate the fact that God will cast them all into eternal torment for their nonbelief, and pray that they come to Jesus. And stop trying to convert Christians to Islam.

And BTW, Jesus was a jew and therefor so are you. Also, that also makes him a [Racial Slur Deleted] as one put it many pages back.

Sorry, Jesus is God. Jews worship God.

Jesus knows He is the Messiah. Jews do not believe Jesus is the Messiah.

Christians know what a Jew is. You are an imbecile, who doesn't know what a Jew is.

It is ignorant backward people like you

. . . says the guy who doesn't know what a Jew is?

that make me glad to be an atheist and that the government is non-theistic. Put the oval office in the hands of this "church" of hate and the US will be set back 4000 years.

That'd be a neat trick, given that Jesus was born just over 2,000 years ago.

Are you suggesting that when Christians control the White House again (as we did with GW Bush) and ALSO control both houses of Congress, the United States will be submerged under the Flood?

You really are a retard, aren't you?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

I signed up to just say, fully expecting a prompt banning, that for a group that hates muslims, what you espouse sounds alot like sharia law.

That's because Muslims nicked half their ideas from our God but then made things up so they didn't believe Jesus was the son of God.

[davidbrainfart]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Do you people ever listen to yourself? Just when I think you can't go any lower you defend yet another evil in the name of God and the Bible.

You have ridiculed me on this board, depicting me as a member of a "lesser race," and a Canadian terrorist. You have tinkered with my words to discredit them. You changed my user name twice, once to initimidate me with loss of privacy, again to make me out a fool. You have hurled arbitrary infractions at me, and I expect to be banned. But you have never proved that you are right and I am wrong. Just listen to me!

I don't believe that was the moral code you were taught when you were growing up. Didn't your mother teach you that the world was round? Didn't your math teacher teach you that pi=3.1416? Didn't your Sunday School teacher teach that God is love? Didn't you read the editorials in the newspapers condeming segregation?

Have you learned nothing from the Civil Rights Movement? The women's liberation movement? Didn't you grow up believing that you should be kind to cripples and that rape was wrong?

If your answer was "no" to any of these questions, you were not brought up right. I suspect, however, that most of you were taught right about these things and turned your back on them for a religion that supports your evil impulses!!

I don't care if the evil is Biblical or not! It is still evil. Two thousand years ago the world was a different place. Cruel controls worked in a world where life was cheap and short.

No woman deserves to be raped. No woman is the property of her father for a rapist to reimburse for his damage. No woman wants to marry her rapist. I don't care what the Bible says! We are better than that!

I don't know how many members you have but I hope some of you will ask yourselves "What have I become by putting this church and this book above all standards of morality and common sense? How much further down this road do you want to go? For those of you in the second generation of this ignorance and bigotry, surely I feel sorry for you. For those of you who feel your humanity slipping away, I say get out of this cult before it is too late!

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Who said that a woman deserves to get raped?

This thread is about WHAT GOD SAYS TO DO IF your daughter gets raped, and then refuses to marry her rapist, moron.

Why don't you go back and read the thread from the start, instead of jumping to conclusions!