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  • #16
    Re: An Apology from Landover

    Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
    ... the Bible clearly authorizes us to do good on the Sabbath:

    Whether saving sheep or defending one's community against homunculi, if God commands you to work on the Sabbath, well, that's what you're going to do, right? ...
    Dear Faith Machine,

    On the Sabbath, it is as well to distinguish between "compulsory acts of goodness" and "voluntary acts of goodness."

    We are compelled to save the sheep, which is a symbol for all the sheep that follow Jesus, whereas we are not compelled to go out of our way to avert evil, ensure the life of another or anything else that might make us break out in a sweat.

    It might seem like a good thing to go and kill some homunculi, but this is a voluntary act. I will repeat unto you Jesus's Words:

    M't:6:13: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

    God does not tempt us to disobey His Commands: He may show us iniquity but this is to be dealt with in its own time and He would have delivered Landover from the evil.

    I hope this clears the matter up.
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    • #17
      Re: An Apology from Landover

      In keeping with the spirit of this thread, I would like to offer a heartfelt apology for not reading this excellent thread before now. I would urge anyone reading this post who has somehow not read the start of this thread, or who has read the start of this thread and then immediately forgotten it, to go back and educate yourself about a fascinating piece of Christian history. Those homunculi are wily folk.
      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



      God being truth, justice, goodness, beauty, power, and life, man is falsehood, iniquity, evil, ugliness, impotence, and death. God being master, man is the slave. Incapable of finding justice, truth, and eternal life by his own effort, he can attain them only through a divine revelation... he who desires to worship God must harbor no childish illusions about the matter, but bravely renounce his liberty and humanity.

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      • #18
        Re: An Apology from Landover

        Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
        MATTHEW: deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
        Romans 5:12-19 Is it ever possible for actual homunculi to be cleansed? Would they ever be covered bt Christ's atonement?

        I am rather concerned that there may be a crop of these wretches sprouting (or whatever it is they do) in the forest around here, due to the depraved antics of heathens who prowl around, shamelessly, by day and by night.

        I understand that they have inherited sin through Adam, Mr Bathfire. As yet I have not seen one but there are often unusual smells. Any advice greatly appreciated.

        Concerned.
        PS I do not go looking for this abomination after midnight on Saturday.

        PPS Is there any chance that these things could be surviving pre-Adamite stock?

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        • #19
          Re: An Apology from Landover

          Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
          Dear Faith Machine,

          On the Sabbath, it is as well to distinguish between "compulsory acts of goodness" and "voluntary acts of goodness."

          We are compelled to save the sheep, which is a symbol for all the sheep that follow Jesus, whereas we are not compelled to go out of our way to avert evil, ensure the life of another or anything else that might make us break out in a sweat.

          It might seem like a good thing to go and kill some homunculi, but this is a voluntary act. I will repeat unto you Jesus's Words:

          M't:6:13: And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

          God does not tempt us to disobey His Commands: He may show us iniquity but this is to be dealt with in its own time and He would have delivered Landover from the evil.

          I hope this clears the matter up.
          Ah, thank you so much for clarifying that, Pastor Bathfire! I am awed by your understanding of His Word!
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          • #20
            Re: An Apology from Landover

            And now that that clarification is out of the way, I fear I have even more questions. This one is a scientific one:

            I was given to understand that tiny homunculi are present in human sperm, and that this is how a sperm grows into a baby. Am I mistaken in this assumption? And is it safe to assume that the homunculi with which Landover battled in the forest were an entirely different kind of thing?

            That is to say, can the term "homunculi" refer to two very different types of being? I hardly think that a human baby could have its origins in the wretched creatures described in this story we're discussing.
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            • #21
              Re: An Apology from Landover

              Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
              And now that that clarification is out of the way, I fear I have even more questions. This one is a scientific one:

              I was given to understand that tiny homunculi are present in human sperm, and that this is how a sperm grows into a baby. Am I mistaken in this assumption? And is it safe to assume that the homunculi with which Landover battled in the forest were an entirely different kind of thing?

              That is to say, can the term "homunculi" refer to two very different types of being? I hardly think that a human baby could have its origins in the wretched creatures described in this story we're discussing.
              Although there would have been homunculi abroad during the early days of Landover, I read that the cohort of gossips observed by Brother Abednego transpired to have been dwarves (themselves cursed Lev. 21:20)


              (It was only later that it transpired that the homunculi were in fact midgets taking a break from a travelling freak show.)
              An homunculus might be a type of pre-Adamite BUT I DON'T KNOW and will stand to be corrected, naturally by the Pastoral team if my suggestions are out of order. I had always understood that any "pre-Adamites" would not be human, and have suggested elsewhere that hippopotamuses predate Adam the man who himself of course predates the unnamed woman (who later on did get a name, eventually) and so pre-Adamites would all be animals?

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              • #22
                Re: An Apology from Landover

                Apparently some homunculi can fly, and take their orders from wizards!

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                • #23
                  Re: An Apology from Landover

                  Thank you for this highly informative post, Brother Bathfire.

                  I realize you must have looked long and hard to find something for which Landover should apologize, but I'm glad you did. Now, when those God-mockers and liberal fake Christians claim Landover is 'shameless' and unwilling to admit error, we can simply point them to this thread where error is admitted and blame accepted!

                  I, like Brother Temperance, must apologize for not seeing this quite some time ago.
                  Bible boring? Nonsense!
                  Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                  You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                  • #24
                    Re: An Apology from Landover

                    Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
                    Apparently some homunculi
                    This is just off the top of my head and unsupported with links [the source material is probably not on the internet but interested persons might be able to find something].

                    There could be 2 types of homunculi (loosely related I suppose): one being the "embryo" you referred to [The Bible does not support that model of conception, by the way] the other being a thing produced by wizards and alchemists, which would obey them. The thing was produced by complex procedures involving uhzna srznyr zrafgehny syhvq naq znyr frzra gbtrgure jvgu ubefr znaher naq qviref bgure vgrzf rvgure zvkrq gbtrgure be pbzovarq naq ohvyg vagb n fbeg bs bira urngrq ol vgf bja srezragngvba gb vaphongr gur uhzna fbheprq zngrevny, guhf pnhfvat gur guvat gb tebj gb nobhg gur fvmr bs jung jnf cbegenlrq va the youtube clip.

                    It is possible that fb-pnyyrq sbhaqyvat onovrf jrer, va ernyvgl, cebqhprq hfvat eribygvat nagvpf va jvmneqf' ynvef naq fhofrdhragyl qrcbfvgrq ba qbbefgrcf jurer gurl xarj gurl'q or sbhaq gb yrtvgvzvfr gurve znahsnpgherq frzra/zrafrf guvat, juvpu gurl pbhyq gura "nqbcg" naq rkcybvg gb gurve rivy raq. Fhpu n perngher jbhyq abg tebj haqrsbezrq, be rira tebj zhpu ng nyy, naq pbhyq or genvarq va pregnva phaavat fghagf bs gur oynpx zntvp &/be frk creireg inevrgl jvgu pbzcyrgr qvfertneq sbe gur guvat'f fbhy fvapr vg cebonoyl qbrfa'g unir bar (subject to Pastoral approval).


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                    The Bible refers to humans as growing from the father's seed there's some references from KJV site

                    I won't dwell on the homuncular demon unnecessarily though. The above is just an impression I'd gleaned from some stuff I once read.

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                    • #25
                      Re: An Apology from Landover

                      Mitza, that is chilling information! I'm glad you used a cypher to obscure it from the more sensitive eyes here.
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