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  • #76
    Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

    Hello again Miss or Mr. His.


    Originally posted by HisNoodlyAppendage2 View Post
    I'll send you some links, but try to read them before they get banned or stamped as an atheist propaganda.
    The members of this lovely community cannot do that because their paradigm doesn't allow it. I, however, try to be as open minded as possible; hence, looking at your links, I will simply use the same criterion you used to dismiss the Bible as the Word of God: that if something is written that does not automatically mean it's true.

    There are many historical pieces of evidence, google is our friend and will show you loads of information
    Well, unfortunately, there was no Google in the 1st century A.D. I will take a look at what you cite and I am hoping to read transcripts and hopefully translations, as I only read Latin, but not Greek, of 1st century non-Christians accounts of Jesus' life.

    OK, no, I'm not setting up my hopes too high, as I have already looked at all available sources used as proof that Jesus existed and honestly, there aren't any. But, let's see. I will add numbers to be able to discuss the sources easier.

    (1) https://www.quora.com/What-scientifi...ible-are-false

    Yes, I know it's a forum, but there are many rational and logical explanations by thinking people.
    This is supporting evidence for your claim that we should not trust the written word. Fine. I agree with the general premise of that website, even though the entries are quite questionable as they lack peer reviewed references - which are the gold standard in science.
    This link leads to ramblings of some person. That person was not a witness of the events described in the Bible, and that person takes the Bible as a relatively trustworthy source of information. The author uses only Bible, and did no effort to search for non-Christian sources of information from the appropriate era. Even the apocryphic gospels are not included, only the canonical Bible. Which is contradictory to the contents of (1), if you think about it. Hence, that is not evidence of anything but the psychological state of the mind of the author.
    This link leads, again, to ramblings of a single person instead of actual evidence. Moreover, the arguments presented do not support the thesis. The thesis seems to be that there is no God but the evidence presented simply boils down to "God is a heartless merciless dick who doesn't care about people." Read through more of the topics on this lovely forum and you'll see that many Christians have no problem embracing that cruel nature of God.


    Anyway, it doesn't provide any evidence for that little story of Jesus the son of a carpenter you created above, so I'm not sure why you included it.
    I cannot speak for True Christians™, but I'm quite sure they would be happy if you showed them that they are using the Bible out of context.


    Hint: They aren't.


    And again - this link does not help that little story of yours.
    You really like the rambling of that person so much, that you had to cite it twice?
    This belongs with (1) in the category of sources questioning the validity of the Bible as a reliable source of information. Hence, both (1) and (5) disprove the ramblings contained in (2).


    In summary, you failed to prove that little story of yours, as you failed to provide evidence for historicity of Jesus. You shouldn't feel too bad about it - Christians failed to provide reliable, objective evidence for the existence of Jesus for the past 2000 years, so you are in good company. Nonetheless, you get a big fat F for providing a true mess of supporting evidence, citing contradictory sources, such as (1) and (5) against (2), and citing sources which have nothing to do with your thesis, such as (3) and (4).


    I mean, you could have at least tried to defend yourself with Josephus. I would have given you at least a C- for that. But nope, you didn't. Hence the failing grade.
    John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

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    • #77
      Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

      Originally posted by HisNoodlyAppendage2 View Post
      I really hope nobody will ban these pages to avoid people seeing the more real world (I'm not saying real, because of many unclear points from history).
      Don't be silly. Those were some of the funniest "resources" ever shared here! It shows the absurdity of the atheist logic that assumes one can only be a "free thinker" so long as one rejects the wisdom and experiences of mankind as well as the objective facts revealed from the sciences. It also shows the pathetic nature of the atheist who must dig up the dregs of society in order to create an echo chamber designed to attack God, Freedom, and Economic Prosperity.

      The truth is, the LORD promises to destroy human wisdom and discard mankind's most brilliant ideas (1 Corinthians 1:19). So you're all wasting your time anyway. But the joke's on you. Without God in your heart, life is without purpose. There is no hope in the heart of the atheist:


      Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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      • #78
        Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

        Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
        Don't be silly. Those were some of the funniest "resources" ever shared here! It shows the absurdity of the atheist logic that assumes one can only be a "free thinker" so long as one rejects the wisdom and experiences of mankind as well as the objective facts revealed from the sciences. It also shows the pathetic nature of the atheist who must dig up the dregs of society in order to create an echo chamber designed to attack God, Freedom, and Economic Prosperity.

        The truth is, the LORD promises to destroy human wisdom and discard mankind's most brilliant ideas (1 Corinthians 1:19). So you're all wasting your time anyway. But the joke's on you. Without God in your heart, life is without purpose. There is no hope in the heart of the atheist:


        Bwahaha God does listen to my prayers after all I was underpaid in some money and low and behold in two weeks time I'm gonna get 2000 more than enough to pay off what's left in my probation fees!


        So what this about god not listening to the prayers of sinners? I prayed to God to help me in my trouble despite me being unsaved trash and what you know he actually fucking delivered.

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        • #79
          Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

          Originally posted by InLoveWithChrisChan View Post
          ...low and behold in two weeks time I'm gonna get 2000 more...
          Bridges for sale! Everybody, get your bridges here! Big ones, small ones, bridges for the whole family! You sir, how about a nice bridge to take home to the little lady?

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          • #80
            Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

            Originally posted by InLoveWithChrisChan View Post
            So what this about god not listening to the prayers of sinners? I prayed to God to help me in my trouble despite me being unsaved trash and what you know he actually piffleing delivered.
            I'm so sorry, dear. That wasn't Jesus who answered your prayer. He's ignoring you (John 9:31; Jeremiah 11:14; Isaiah 1:15; Jeremiah 7:16). This bit of good fortune was clearly Satan who is luring you into His Unholy Lair. If you'll forgive my using the parlance of today's youth, you my friend, are Satan's Bitch.
            Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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            • #81
              Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

              Originally posted by Mary Etheldreda View Post
              I'm so sorry, dear. That wasn't Jesus who answered your prayer. He's ignoring you (John 9:31; Jeremiah 11:14; Isaiah 1:15; Jeremiah 7:16). This bit of good fortune was clearly Satan who is luring you into His Unholy Lair. If you'll forgive my using the parlance of today's youth, you my friend, are Satan's Bitch.
              Well I'll donate to my church and sacrifice a chicken for Satan then at the very least if it was Satan I should at least appease him with a blood sacrifice.

              Lol if it was Satan maybe he isn't so much of a bad deity after all if he's willing to help with my probation fees.

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              • #82
                Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

                Originally posted by HisNoodlyAppendage2 View Post

                [ see below ]
                I have no idea what you were trying to show with those links. That Jesus never existed and was deluded at the same time? One of them had a nice starry background which was appropriate so let's have a look at that one.

                Mary..could have just told a big lie and started Christianity. She would have had to tell Jesus that he was the son of God to keep the lie going, so he grew up really believing God was his father..This inspired him and connected him to the collective unconscious
                Your idea seems to be that since The Bible is wrong about Jesus we need to read The Bible to find out the truth about Jesus who never actually existed. At least not in the form described in The Bible. This segues into another topic: the Criterion of Multiple Attestation.

                You are presenting a Jesus who wanders about in some deluded state, fed lies which are perpetuated by Mary and I guess by Joseph or perhaps Jesus was deaf? People having mistaken ideas about their own parentage get suggestions from many sources, especially as they're growing up. Not only does The Bible confirm that popular opinion but there are multiple attestations to the fact. This is called a double whammy.

                MARK 6 .KJV . look up .. context
                3
                Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us? And they were offended at him.



                MATTHEW 13 .KJV . look up
                55-56a
                Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary? and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas? And his sisters, are they not all with us?



                JOHN 6 .KJV . look up
                41-42
                The Jews then murmured at him, because he said, I am the bread which came down from heaven. And they said, Is not this Jesus, the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? how is it then that he saith, I came down from heaven?


                All together these are pretty consistent testimonies to what was said about the parents, and brothers and sisters, of Jesus. I've highlighted the place in John where it's even made clear that such comments WERE addressed to Him. This is a man in His 30's by the way; that's three decades of comments from the group mind which you will recall Jesus was supposed to channel to perform miracles. To support such a claim it would be needed to show how the group mind..I am not claiming that any such thing exists but it is a central tenet in this piece..can restore life to humans perceived as dead.

                There are two angles in the secularist world on this subject and although Christians reject both of them that doesn't mean we don't know what they are. Firstly there's the supra-consciousness paradigm which arises flamelike from the meagre coals of individual consciousness in a group setting. The idea seems to be that the magnetic field surrounding a brain communicates with other brains by modulating the geomagnetic field perhaps akin to a radio signal modulating a carrier wave. The signal remains weak but does not deteriorate and upon arrival can be integrated into the other brains by an undescribed process. Several could be suggested but none have been so we are right to reject this approach.

                A second angle takes the opposite approach. Humans, they say, have a unique consciousness deriving from the cerebral cortex which enables us to reflect on our own behaviour. "Wow!" such a secularist may say, "Did I just do that?" and then obsess over why for an extended period possibly writing a few books about how when we encounter our own instincts it seems like a higher power reaching into our lives but in reality is nothing more than all the other brain activity manifesting from reflexes or the limbic system or something. Again, the word something is critical here and we are right to reject the infra-consciousness paradigm too.

                I can't be bothered to cover any more of that. A single example explains why ..well, to any rational person but woo-meisters are not rational are they.



                page 207
                The story: The resurrection story comes from just one place, Paul, and he was not even there, so he could have just made it up to help make the new religion he was promoting more successful.

                ..and before you die laughing I'll just link to the sources: Matthew 28, Mark 16, Luke 24, John 20 and Luke again. When people abandon belief in God they don't believe nothing. They'll believe anything.

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                • #83
                  Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

                  Sister Mary, do you have an updates on your daughter?
                  And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
                  Deuteronomy 6.5

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                  • #84
                    Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

                    As I was perusing the forum, I came across this post and wondered to myself if your daughter ever, um, well...did she...I mean, could she have...well?
                    Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
                    1 Corinthians 11:13

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                    • #85
                      Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

                      I was just wondering how the baby is myself.
                      Proverbs 21:31 KJV 1611:
                      “The horse is prepared against the day of battell: but safetie is of the Lord.”

                      Lord, may I serve my equine brothers and sisters just as I do my fellow man.
                      Amen and Amen

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                      • #86
                        Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

                        Good grief, why is it so hard for some people to understand there is no baby! My daughter was never pregnant?!? To accuse her of ever having been pregnant is to accuse Jesus Christ the Lord thy God of lying! Do you think He doesn't see your posts?!?



                        Why would anyone want to accuse Jesus of being a big, fat, liar? Such an offense deserves an eternity in Hell, where you won't get to giggle at the poor mother struggling with a rebellious, prideful, stupid cow of a child. In Hell you won't get to gossip about people, not even Jesus, because you'll be so busy screaming and thrashing around that the Lake of Fire will look like a giant Vitamix Blender with all the commotion. Who wants to be the gunk swirling around the Vitamix Blender of Hell when you can spend eternity standing with Jesus and laughing at those too stupid to trust Him?
                        Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

                          Of course Sister Mary. One only has to look at the facts of this situation to come up with the correct conclusion*. How thoughtless of us to even bring it up.






                          *The conclusion you gave us, that is.
                          Proverbs 21:31 KJV 1611:
                          “The horse is prepared against the day of battell: but safetie is of the Lord.”

                          Lord, may I serve my equine brothers and sisters just as I do my fellow man.
                          Amen and Amen

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                          • #88
                            Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

                            Mary, does your last post mean that your daughter has started bleeding again? I did some math and discovered that the amount of time that has passed since you said that your daughter stopped bleeding is longer than an average pregnancy. Therefore, she can't be pregnant.
                            And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
                            Deuteronomy 6.5

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                            • #89
                              Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

                              Originally posted by Esther B. View Post
                              Mary, does your last post mean that your daughter has started bleeding again? I did some math and discovered that the amount of time that has passed since you said that your daughter stopped bleeding is longer than an average pregnancy. Therefore, she can't be pregnant.
                              Dearest Esther, if Sister Mary said that her daughter was not pregnant, that means she was not pregnant, period. Please stop gossiping, and don't concern yourself with math - leave subjects like that to the men, they are good at it.
                              God created fossils to test our faith.

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                              True Christians are Perfect!
                              True Christian™ Love.
                              Salvation™ made Easy!
                              You can’t be a Christian if you don’t believe the Old Testament.
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                              Jesus is xenophobic and so should we.
                              Sanctity of Life is NOT a Biblical Concept.
                              Biblical view on modern-day slavery.
                              The Immorality of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights."
                              Geneva Conventions vs. The Holy Bible.
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                              • #90
                                Re: Reasons my daughter's period could be late?

                                Oh my, I seem to have failed to have gotten my point across. My point was that since more than 10 months have passed since Mary's daughter stopped bleeding, it's clear that there was never any pregnancy to begin with.
                                And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
                                Deuteronomy 6.5

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