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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-04-2012, 01:38 AM

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This is what the serpent was saying to Eve, with his lying tongue.
What, specifically, did the serpent lie about?


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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-04-2012, 09:55 AM

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Actually if we were to get technical with the wording in the Holy Bible God only commanded Adam not to eat the fruit, Eve hadn't even been born yet.

The Holy Bible does not say she did or didn't tell her husband what the fruit was, nor does the Holy Bible say that Adam did or didn't know what the fruit was. It just doesn't say.
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I'm sorry what where does it say that Eve sought to be like God, also why do you discredit God by suggesting Eve ruined his creation? God knows all things and nothing is hidden from him.

Also before the Fall there was no meaning of Joy and Sorrow, Good and Evil, Hope and Dispair, exc. God being wise and knowing would see what needs to be done.
So God was wrong to condemn Eve?

Seriously! God was wrong? Why would God Himself condemn Eve face to face if He thought she wasn't to blame?

1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. 2:15 Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.



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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-04-2012, 10:02 AM

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Actually if we were to get technical with the wording in the Holy Bible God only commanded Adam not to eat the fruit, Eve hadn't even been born yet.
Born?

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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-04-2012, 10:36 AM

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Also Sister Mary I have considered Laurence Niles and see clearly he is not the one for me. For one he is a married man with a wife that left him, I do not want an man that cannot keep his wife by his side.


1 Corinthians 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

Revelation 22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-04-2012, 04:47 PM

I'm still waiting to hear what, specifically, the serpent lied about.
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Brother, I thought of telling her that "his wife didn't leave him, she ran away and has never been heard from since", but wasn't sure if that would help or harm.


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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 08:41 PM

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I apoligize good sir if I upset you, that was not my intention though I do know we would not work well as a couple. There are those God means to be together and there are those that he does not. I have prayed and you are not the one for me. It's doesn't mean you have done anything wrong, just that you are not the right one.
One thing I would ask is would you support me as your wife, if I were to be such, in becoming a writer? The man I am looking for would need to treat me not as a servent but as his partner, and support my wish to be a writer. That is the husband I need, one that I will know would treat me as a daughter of God.

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I'm still waiting to hear what, specifically, the serpent lied about.
Brother, I thought of telling her that "his wife didn't leave him, she ran away and has never been heard from since", but wasn't sure if that would help or harm.
The serpent lied by twisting the truth, as twisting the truth is a form of lying. He said that Eve would not die for eating the fruit, which is both a lie and a truth. It is a lie because Eve and her husband would die... just not on the spot which is what he was suggesting God meant.

In addition I know good sir, but I felt saying she left was better then she ran away. As it does not look good when a man's wife runs away from him and make sure he doesn't know where she is... so yah it would harm.


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One thing I would ask is would you support me as your wife, if I were to be such, in becoming a writer?
Why do you assume a True Christian™, such as the good Dr. Niles, would fail to comply to his God-given responsibility to treat his wife as the "weaker vessle" (1 Peter 3:7) God created her to be? (Genesis 3:16) Furthermore, would you actually be capable of complying to your God-given responsibility as a wife, to be submissive to her husband in all things? (Ephesians 5:22-24) It seems to me quite presumptuous of you to deny Dr. Niles before he's even considered the possibility of doing you the favor of making an honest woman out of you. (1st Timothy 2:15)


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Why do you assume a True Christian™, such as the good Dr. Niles, would fail to comply to his God-given responsibility to treat his wife as the "weaker vessle" (1 Peter 3:7) God created her to be? (Genesis 3:16) Furthermore, would you actually be capable of complying to your God-given responsibility as a wife, to be submissive to her husband in all things? (Ephesians 5:22-24) It seems to me quite presumptuous of you to deny Dr. Niles before he's even considered the possibility of doing you the favor of making an honest woman out of you. (1st Timothy 2:15)
Don't be too hard on her. Last time someone used the Truth™ against her, she ran away for several days....


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Don't be too hard on her. Last time someone used the Truth™ against her, she ran away for several days....
Such a childish response. No wonder nobody wants to marry her. What a chore it would be to discipline her into decency.



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The serpent lied by twisting the truth, as twisting the truth is a form of lying. He said that Eve would not die for eating the fruit, which is both a lie and a truth. It is a lie because Eve and her husband would die... just not on the spot which is what he was suggesting God meant.
Isn't it exactly what God said?

Genesis 2:17

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.


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Such a childish response. No wonder nobody wants to marry her. What a chore it would be to discipline her into decency.

No wonder! She never had a male figure in her life to slap some sense into her when she has her hizzy fits


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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 09:04 PM

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The man I am looking for would need to treat me not as a servent but as his partner, and support my wish to be a writer.
Young lady, according to the Bible, women are to be subject to their husbands in everything. You are not allowed to make such demands.

Ephesians
5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Also, my young friend, as a True Christian™ I cannot make demands of Jesus as you are making demands of the "requirements" of a husband. The husband, or another male figure, will tell you what is best for you as Jesus tells us what is best for us.

5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.


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Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 09:05 PM

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Why do you assume a True Christian™, such as the good Dr. Niles, would fail to comply to his God-given responsibility to treat his wife as the "weaker vessle" (1 Peter 3:7) God created her to be? (Genesis 3:16) Furthermore, would you actually be capable of complying to your God-given responsibility as a wife, to be submissive to her husband in all things? (Ephesians 5:22-24) It seems to me quite presumptuous of you to deny Dr. Niles before he's even considered the possibility of doing you the favor of making an honest woman out of you. (1st Timothy 2:15)
Actually there is a chapter on how God hates men do not treat their wifes well and how "she thy companion": Malachi 2
There is also Genesis 15 which speaks of how through a woman's seed that prophecy of Mary and how her son would destroy the work of the serpent or as said 'crush his head'. This is also a prophecy of the freedom of a woman, the first blessing that women are given from God without going through men first. That this curse came through a woman and that the blessing came through on as well.


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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 09:15 PM

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Actually there is a chapter on how God hates men do not treat their wifes well and how "she thy companion": Malachi 2
Yes, and one of the best things a man can do for his wife is ensure she obeys, as the Bible commands, so that her salvation is ensured. Correct?
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There is also Genesis 15 which speaks of how through a woman's seed that prophecy of Mary and how her son would destroy the work of the serpent or as said 'crush his head'.
I think you're interpreting again, dear. There is no "work of the serpent"; it was just a snake*, and God was telling them that humans and snakes would be enemies, so humans would kill snakes.

*The serpent was more of a proto-snake, given that it could talk and apparently had legs until God took them away.


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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 09:16 PM

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Young lady, according to the Bible, you are to be subject to their husbands in everything. You are not allowed to make such demands.

Ephesians
5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.

Also, my young friend, as a True Christian™ I cannot make demands of Jesus as you are making demands of the "requirements" of a husband. The husband, or another male figure, will tell you what is best for you as Jesus tells us what is best for us.

5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

5:24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
A man is not my husband until we are married, as such a man can make no such demands until he is married. And yes I know and agree the husband is the head of the hosue but just because he is does not mean the wife has do obey everything he says. I would be unto my husband, give him as he requires as long as he is of the sort I will marry.


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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 09:16 PM

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Actually there is a chapter on how God hates men do not treat their wifes well and how "she thy companion": Malachi 2
There is also Genesis 15 which speaks of how through a woman's seed that prophecy of Mary and how her son would destroy the work of the serpent or as said 'crush his head'. This is also a prophecy of the freedom of a woman, the first blessing that women are given from God without going through men first. That this curse came through a woman and that the blessing came through on as well.
You seem to be implying that the Bible is internally contradictory...



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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 09:22 PM

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You seem to be implying that the Bible is internally contradictory...
I am implying nothing of the sort, I was just showing scriptures from the Holy Bible that say a that a women is more then what ahs been said. Who says it is contradictory, I don't? The Holy Bible is 100% true and as such you must take all the scriptures as a whole and as such as a whole one cannot say God believes women meant to be slaves.

The sort of man I am looking for can be shown in a song, and I will do the same as they do to me. The song is Martina Mcbride - For The Love Of A Woman: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti0JzA5cWvs


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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 09:24 PM

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You seem to be implying that the Bible is internally contradictory...
She seems to be implying she an uppity female...


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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 09:25 PM

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A man is not my husband until we are married, as such a man can make no such demands until he is married. And yes I know and agree the husband is the head of the hosue but just because he is does not mean the wife has do obey everything he says. I would be unto my husband, give him as he requires as long as he is of the sort I will marry.
Oh dear, who taught you such things? The Bible clearly teaches that the woman, even among animals, is the property of the male, and property is under the control of the owner.

It cannot be different than that my young friend.

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5:21
Neither shalt thou desire thy neighbour's wife, neither shalt thou covet thy neighbour's house, his field, or his manservant, or his maidservant, his ox, or his ass, or any thing that is thy neighbour's.


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Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
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Default Re: A Candle in the Darkness - 08-05-2012, 09:32 PM

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She seems to be implying she an uppity female...

Yes, it does appear that way. She apparently makes demands, and gives orders to the liberal-false-God that she prays to. We know that it sure ain't Jesus that she prays to.


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Psalm 50:22 Now consider this, ye that forget God, lest I tear you in pieces, and there be none to deliver.
Deuteronomy32:35 To me belongeth vengeance and recompence; their foot shall slide in due time: for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them make haste.
Jerimiah 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.
Numbers 32:23 But if ye will not do so, behold, ye have sinned against the LORD: and be sure your sin will find you out.
Leviticus24:14 Bring forth him that hath cursed without the camp; and let all that heard him lay their hands upon his head, and let all the congregation stone him.
Ephesians5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
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