I have reprimanded myself for not reading more completely before posting. As you know, it's not my way to seem critical of other, false, belief systems however far they have migrated from The Truth (assuming they were ever in contact with it at all) and Rome is a good example of this. Having reread the thread to appreciate all the posts in context, two points stand out regarding
[1] Noah and
[2] Christ Jesus, highlighted in SeaGreen and RoyalBlue respectively.
How could any two points be distinguished in a world completely covered by water? Such locations would be necessary for any traversing to be done. God is clear that the waters rose up from below as much as fell down from above, perhaps like a boat in a bathtub with the plughole working in reverse but definitely not like a reservoir's dam bursting.
Genesis 7:11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
As we know, The Firmament (colloquially known as "sky") restrains a significant volume of water. Let's go woke and accept the astrologers' claim:
a sphere of water 540,833,534,332,891,911,238,367⅞ miles across!
all held back except for windows operated by God. So in other words like having a boat in your bathtub with reverse plughole function and the shower on. The water rises straight up. A major difference is that your toy could be assigned a location by measuring from the edge of the bath. Mount Everest could substitute for that but the problem is that Mount Everest was covered with water if it even existed beforehand and that Noah came back down more-or-less where he started from. "Traversing" from anywhere to anywhere else is completely absurd under such circumstances.
Genesis 8:2-5 The fountains also of the deep and the windows of heaven were stopped, and the rain from heaven was restrained; and the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated. And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat. And the waters decreased continually until the tenth month: in the tenth month…were the tops of the mountains seen.
THEN, a location could be determined but were those mountains even there beforehand? There were
some, as we know from their tops having been covered,
vv18-20, but regardless of how high they were it's certain that Everest was covered because no mountains were visible until the time recorded by God to inform us. This brings us to the blue section.
Quote:
Originally Posted by GodThe shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things that they had heard and seen, as it was told unto them. And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
When the days of her [Mary's] purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord…and to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.
When they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.
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Luke 2:20, 21, 22, 24, 39
Colombo, San Sebastián and Thomson Bay are settlements on the islands of Ceylon, Grand Tierra del Fuego and Rottnest respectively. Travel between them is relatively straightforward. One could start in Colombo for example and go to Thomson Bay, then turn hard right and go on to San Sebastián. Mostly this would be by sea or air.
Jesus similarly had several options, in getting to Nazareth (or returning to in the case of Mary & Joseph) from Bethlehem. When He was born, after a few days, they'd all gone to Jerusalem and spent some time there. Several options exist for getting to Egypt on the way home, sea would be one, road another. Probably by road via Egypt, pausing to take in the Egyptian riviera, maybe a look at the pyramids, this is just a fancy on my part you understand, then a pleasant cruise back up to the coast near Nazareth, disembarking around modern-day Haifa. In none of these places would Jesus be any sort of migrant, neither an immigrant nor an emigrant. Exactly the same as in my other imagined journey. God gives the destinations but nobody went anywhere to actually
live. It's an important distinction and worth pointing out.
Thank you.