The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Millennials - (people born between 1980 and ?): are they a potent political force, that will turn politics to the left as dramatically as FDR did? Are Millennials the new left, as the Daily Beast claims? Is it true that Larry Summers is their first victim, and Hillary Clinton their next?

No, I say. And I have one very simple reason:

They're soft.

I don't mean flabby, I mean doubting and weak. And they're so lazy they don't even bother to vote!

Compare them to REAL generations:

The greatest generation had the great depression - everybody except the richest saw their standard of living fall, and for everyone who said "recovery is on the way", there was someone else saying it would last forever - that is was "the new normal" as people would say today.

There's nothing comparable today, at least for young people who are smart enough to learn Chinese and are willing to relocate.

And where is their war? Everybody knows young people are only good for one thing: acting as meat-shields to stop bullets that would otherwise hurt their elders and betters. (Bush used the term "flypaper strategy" an image that suits millenials well: skinny, immobile, disgusting, and liable to get stuck in someone's hair).

We fought in Vietnam (well, not myself, since I had other priorities). The millennials haven't fought a war. And don't say Iraq, where everyone welcomes you with flowers, and you grab the WMD and then you're gone. I mean a real war where people get shot.

Not to mention, their diet has a serious lead deficiency.

With nothing to build character, and an education of liberal propaganda teaching them to be wishy-washy, polite, and subservient, they will never survive against other generations of fanatical, goal-oriented go-getters. We might not be the best when it comes to table-manners, but at least we have enough gumption to actually get out and vote.

So what do the rest of yall think? Are today's teens and twentysomethings a potential powerhouse, unaware of their own power, or will they be as pathetic in politics as they are in life?

[James Hutchins]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Kids today are all whiney EMO queers. Afraid to get a little blood and guts on their iphones. Too busy to drop to their knees for a Pastor and open up to take in the Love of Jesus. I do not know a single ten year old that is not a limp wristed gametard (excepting of course, the strong backed Sons of Landover(r), bless their open-ness to sensible acceptance of Jesus).
That liebral slut, Caroline Kennedy was sent off to yellowville to submit to the gooks, what does that tell you? In my day, we sent Enola Gay.

[Jeb Stuart Thurmond]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Millennials...are they a potent political force...Is it true that Larry Summers is their first victim, and Hillary Clinton their next?

Bump.

[Basilissa]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

So what do the rest of yall think? Are today's teens and twentysomethings a potential powerhouse, unaware of their own power, or will they be as pathetic in politics as they are in life?

You spoke like a true Prophet of the Lord, Brother!

[handmaiden]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

I don't mean flabby, I mean doubting and weak. And they're so lazy they don't even bother to vote! . . .We might not be the best when it comes to table-manners, but at least we have enough gumption to actually get out and vote. . .So what do the rest of yall think? Are today's teens and twentysomethings a potential powerhouse, unaware of their own power, or will they be as pathetic in politics as they are in life?

Based on the storming of the ramparts here at LBC when someone insulted one of their video games, I think you have your answer.

We cover some pretty controversial topics from a Biblical perspective here on this forum, and none of those seemed to stir their interest.

Also, their table manners are hardly challenged on a diet of pizza and nachos. If they had to sit down for a formal dinner, their mothers would probably have to cut up their meat.

The other question to consider is whether people who have actually served in the military find warfare themed video games as appealing as keyboard warriors who likely couldn't handle the physical effort and potential for pain of a gutsy game of handball.

Praise Jesus that the Bible at least provides some insight into the real costs of war.

2 Kings 9:8
For the whole house of Ahab shall perish: and I will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel:

I just love that verse.

Staunchly Yours,
Handmaiden

[Brother Gonzalez]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Millenials are going to stop being millenials once Trump get the real jobs back in America. Construction, factories, mines, real jobs for real men.

Now what do they do? They take their macs and go to the nearest starbucks. They call that "work". What do you do? "I'm a consultant in trends in the fashion industry" I try not to punch them in the face when they tell me that.

Guess what: that is not working. And it is not Biblical. It is opossed to God's will.

Have you seen any millenial sweat at his job? Me neither. They sweat doing Crossfit or whatever they call the newest gay fad. They do not sweat at job.

But God said: In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. (Genesis 3:19)

So this newer generations are, again, doing against God's will. No wonder they are a bunch of pansies.

The glorius election of Donald the First will change everything, will harden up the boys, will make every woman a lady again (even if he has to grab every woman by the pussy and put them in their place) And we will forget that there was something called "millenials", they will be called men.

[Please Flush Me]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Oh Jesus Christ, I don't even know where to start with this one...

I mean, come on, you're part of the generation that raised us "millenials". You raised us to be "doubting and weak" - just look at how much belittling you do.


And then you say that everyone but the richest had their standard of living fall during the Great Depression. Seriously? The struggles a vast amount of your college students go through just to afford basic necessities is ridiculous. They have no standards because what's the point? They're just gonna have to be lowered anyway as tuition prices rise and minimum wage decreases.


Ooh, my favourite point. War! You wanna know why we don't have "our war", since according to you, the Iraq war isn't a real war. It's because we're not idiotic enough to jump headfirst into something so clearly dangerous and stupid without asking questions yet.


Actually, I think I wanna change my mind on that. I just realised, this is our war - against the racists, the misogynists, the bigots. We don't need guns as our weapons because after all, the pen is mightier than the sword.


I think I'm going to ignore that whole "lead deficiency" thing, because that's not even worth touching with a 10 foot pole.


I would like to finalise this by saying, that yeah, there are "millenials" that sweat as they work, or at least, there are here in Australia, where a large majority of our tradesmen are "millenials". Those that don't generally work in retail or hospitality or education or a million other occupations that allow society to function.


After all, how else would you be able to spread things like this if it weren't for "millenials" in the workforce?


Also, seriously? "The Greatest Generation"? Delusional much?

[handmaiden]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

. . .I mean, come on, you're part of the generation that raised us "millenials". You raised us to be "doubting and weak" - just look at how much belittling you do.

Two words: Participant trophies.

. . . you say that everyone but the richest had their standard of living fall during the Great Depression. Seriously? The struggles a vast amount of your college students go through just to afford basic necessities is ridiculous. They have no standards because what's the point? They're just gonna have to be lowered anyway as tuition prices rise and minimum wage decreases.

My grandmother lived through the Depression. I still have ribbons that she saved because she didn't dare to throw anything away. My father had to visit a public facility to take baths and bring his own towel and soap (which was dear.)


There was a popular song at that time urging people to spur the economy by having "another cup of coffee and another piece of pie". Most millennials spend plenty on their primo coffees, and that includes the college students.


A staffer at a local assistance agency told me about people who come to them for help with their rent who would never consider saving money by giving up their cable, wi-fi and expensive phones and data plans.


Young people today may face some tough choices, but most of them don't make the choice--they want to have their cake and eat it, too. During the Great Depression, people just didn't have the choice in the first place. They toughed it out or they starved. Sometimes they took their own lives and that of their families.


I, myself, have lived at various times without central heat, any air conditioning, running water, clean hot water, flush toilets, a bathtub, and-- horror of horrors-- home internet connection. And I don't delude myself for an instant that I have suffered as much as my grandparents and parents.

Ooh, my favourite point. War! You wanna know why we don't have "our war", since according to you, the Iraq war isn't a real war. It's because we're not idiotic enough to jump headfirst into something so clearly dangerous and stupid without asking questions yet.


Actually, I think I wanna change my mind on that. I just realised, this is our war - against the racists, the misogynists, the bigots.

I remember hearing so many liberals decry Donald Trump as racist, misogynist and bigoted. But the millennials were too pre-occupied with their computer games to get out and vote against him, so now he controls your fate. And not just for four to eight years. If he gets to pack the Supreme Court with his kind of people, the next 25 to 40 years will be molded in his image. . . Wait, you did make mention of "here in Australia". In that case, Trump's election means nothing to you. Our soon-to-be Fearless Leader has never mentioned you, so I assume that he barely knows you exist. But then, you Aussies are used to that, aren't you?

We don't need guns as our weapons because after all, the pen is mightier than the sword.

You don't even know how to use pens! Or write cursive. You type everything, and roughly 30% of the time, you use abbreviations. About 20% of your communication is in emojis. The remaining 50% of your chosen "weaponry" is often misspelled and set out in the wrong verb tense.

In order to make words your weapons, you first need to be able to read with discernment. Start with the Bible. It was the first book ever printed.


Non-delusionally Yours,
Handmaiden

[Please Flush Me]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Two words: Participant trophies.

Oh yes. Because we clearly gave these to ourselves. And really? That's meant to be encouraging? It's not really encouraging is it if everyone got one.

I remember hearing so many liberals decry Donald Trump as racist, misogynist and bigoted. But the millennials were too pre-occupied with their computer games to get out and vote against him, so now he controls your fate.

They were more preoccupied with reminding people why voting for trump is a bad thing, or with their education, or with working.

You don't even know how to use pens! Or write cursive. You type everything, and roughly 30% of the time, you use abbreviations. About 20% of your communication is in emojis. The remaining 50% of your chosen "weaponry" is often misspelled and set out in the wrong verb tense.

In order to make words your weapons, you first need to be able to read with discernment. Start with the Bible. It was the first book ever printed.

Well huh, guess all those books I see student with are all empty. I do wonder how those engineering students right their notes then. It is rather hard to insert complicated maths functions into a word document, but to do it quick enough to keep up with the slides? Kudos to them.


Now, that point about us using abbreviations or misspelling words or "wrong verb tense", I recommend a site called AO3. There are millions of examples to disprove this. Or even on Tumblr. Plenty of example on there - even ones saying how language changes, especially when different platforms are involved.


Also, I regret to inform you, the Bible was only the first MAJOR book printed on a printing press. Prior to that was the Jikji, a Korean Buddhist text.


Oh dear.

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Oh yes. Because we clearly gave these to ourselves. And really? That's meant to be encouraging? It's not really encouraging is it if everyone got one.



They were more preoccupied with reminding people why voting for trump is a bad thing, or with their education, or with working.


Well huh, guess all those books I see student with are all empty. I do wonder how those engineering students right their notes then. It is rather hard to insert complicated maths functions into a word document, but to do it quick enough to keep up with the slides? Kudos to them.


Now, that point about us using abbreviations or misspelling words or "wrong verb tense", I recommend a site called AO3. There are millions of examples to disprove this. Or even on Tumblr. Plenty of example on there - even ones saying how language changes, especially when different platforms are involved.


Also, I regret to inform you, the Bible was only the first MAJOR book printed on a printing press. Prior to that was the Jikji, a Korean Buddhist text.


Oh dear.

Corrections:

Well huh, guess all those books I see students with are all empty. I do wonder how those engineering students write their notes then. It is rather hard to insert complicated math functions into a word document, but to do it quick enough to keep up with the slides? Kudos to them.



Now, that point about us using abbreviations or misspelling words or "wrong verb tense", I recommend a site called AO3. There are millions of examples to disprove this on Tumblr - even ones saying how language changes, especially when different platforms are involved.

So let me see if I have the logic straight in your argument - every time anyone misspells words, uses wrong grammar, uses non-standard abbreviations and employs improper punctuation it is considered to disprove all established rules of writing?

With regard to the invention of the printing press, Johannes Gutenberg's invention was unique in employing a number of technologies, and was the only one to be widely adopted - along with its effects in the West. Your example of the Korean Buddhist text was an example of movable type (along with earlier woodblock printing), it never went mainstream - mainly due to the fact that the chinks had all these thousands of squiggly little characters to express their language - extremely difficult for the time to make a comprehensive set of type. The West had already developed the alphabet, much more conducive to Gutenberg's invention.

[handmaiden]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Oh yes. Because we clearly gave these to ourselves. And really? That's meant to be encouraging? It's not really encouraging is it if everyone got one. [Should be a question mark there.]



They were more preoccupied with reminding people why voting for trump [Trump should be capitalized.] is a bad thing, or with their education, or with working. [Those may be reasons for not voting, but not excuses. Those who do not vote should not complain.]


Well huh, guess all those books I see student [Either add an "s" or admit that you only saw one person with a book.] with are all empty. I do wonder how those engineering students right [The word is "write".] their notes then. It is rather hard to insert complicated maths [I'm going to give you this one. I have heard "math" referred to as "maths" by British speakers.] functions into a word["Word" document to refer to the specific software.] document, but to do it quick [You need the adverb "quickly" here.] enough to keep up with the slides? Kudos to them.


Now, that point about us using abbreviations or misspelling words or "wrong verb tense", I recommend a site called AO3. There are millions of examples to disprove this. Or even on Tumblr. Plenty of example [You need an "s" here.] on there - even ones saying how language changes, especially when different platforms are involved.


Also, I regret to inform you, the Bible was only the first MAJOR book printed on a printing press. Prior to that was the Jikji, a Korean Buddhist text. [Do make sure to help Wikipedia out with a financial contribution, won't you? Without them, your generation will have to take time from whining and goofing off in order to do actual research. . . And I doubt that you regret anything.]


Oh dear.

Cheerfully Yours,
Handmaiden

[Basilissa]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Actually, I think I wanna change my mind on that. I just realised, this is our war - against the racists, the misogynists, the bigots. We don't need guns as our weapons because after all, the pen is mightier than the sword.

You do realize that you lost that war on November 8, right?

They were more preoccupied with reminding people why voting for trump is a bad thing, or with their education, or with working.

Keep up the good work, sweetie, just keep whatever you're doing and keep not voting in the elections. Especially the midterm ones, I bet you didn't even know there was such a thing.

[handmaiden]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Well, Brothers and Sisters, our angry young friend has they the building before I could post this response. If the moderators feel that it is of no use, I accept their decision.
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Dear Young Person;


Please forgive me. I got so caught up in pointing out your (many) grammar flaws that I neglected to impart some useful advice.


Let me start by pointing out what you wrote here:

I mean, come on, you're part of the generation that raised us "millenials". You raised us to be "doubting and weak" - just look at how much belittling you do.

This indicates that you feel that belittling is not an ideal parenting strategy.

My response to this was to allude to the practice of giving out trophies just for showing up for a sporting event. Essentially, I was countering your claim that those of your generation have suffered denigration by indicating that you had, in fact, been coddled.

Two words: Participant trophies.

Your response to my counter argument was to point out that participant trophies weren't really all that encouraging

Oh yes. Because we clearly gave these to ourselves. And really? That's meant to be encouraging? It's not really encouraging is it if everyone got one.

First of all, kudos to you for really seeing through that nonsense. I mean that.


However, what you've done here doesn't exactly make sense. Either "we" (whoever you mean by that) have done you and yours wrong by belittling you or by falsely building you up. Which is it exactly?


While you ponder that question I want to share that useful advice that I mentioned.


Now, I'm not kidding or taking a snarky tone here at all. I'm speaking as one adult to a slightly younger adult.


Here it is: When you are old enough and smart enough to see your parents' mistakes, that's when the responsibility for the rest of your personal development falls on you.


Whatever their faults, no matter how accurate your assessment of the blame they bear, directing your energy to what they did wrong will avail you nothing.


You may not be able to fix their mistakes entirely, but you now have to work with what you've got to make the best life that you can. Nobody is going to do it for you.


My mother basically ate my ego for breakfast, but if I want people to feel sympathy for me and the things that I suffered in my childhood, then I have to extend that same sympathy to my mother for her childhood, which apparently was really hard. She was orphaned during the Depression and passed around as a burden between family members for years. And that was before she ended up in a children's home because her favorite uncle had married a girl about two years older than her.


I know of this, not because she told me, but because I found letters that she had written while in the children's home, begging to come live with her uncle. (Her penmanship was exquisite, by the way.)


My heart aches for the child who never really got to be anybody's little girl. But my mother survived that, and a cancer diagnosis back when the word was whispered because it was a virtual death sentence. The woman was tough, no doubt about it. And if I never really felt loved by her, I have to acknowledge that she did her best.


Not knowing your story, I'm going to guess that the people in your life did their best. If I have any complaint about the Millennials, it is that you've never really pushed yourselves to discover your best, because you're too used to being comfortable.*


Honestly Yours,
Handmaiden


* That, and the lack of writing skills. It really does drive me crazy.

[Segoosuoia]

Re: The Millennial Generation: new political powerhouse, or pathetic losers as allways?

Wow, Handmaiden, that is really sad.