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STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-09-2008, 09:20 PM
The cripple lobby wins again. That's right, in a act of shameless pandering to Big Disability, Joe Biden suggested that Sarah Palin's pet retard could be helped by murdering microscopic Americans:
"I hear all this talk about how the Republicans are going to work in dealing with parents who have both the joy, because there's joy to it as well, the joy and the difficulty of raising a child who has a developmental disability, who were born with a birth defect. Well guess what folks? If you care about it, why don't you support stem cell research?" - Joe Biden
These cripples think that it's okay to sacrifice the life of an able-bodied stem-cell to give a handout to some drooling, dripping, lurching, freakish deviant cripple! These rejects of God will never be satisfied! First they wanted the best parking spaces, then they want wheelchair ramps (which are magnets for skateboarding teenage trash) and now, like the false gods the Azteks worshipped, they want human sacrifices!
Apart from giving people permission to go out and murder anyone who happens to be microscopic, stem cell research is an attempt to reverse God's will:
"Who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?" -- Exodus 4:11
God chose to make the cripples crippled and the tards retarded. Why? As a punishment for failing to obey the Old Testement's laws:
"The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart." -- Deuteronomy 28:28
King David, a good Christian role model from the Bible, hated cripples so much he wanted them killed:
"And David said on that day, Whosoever ... smiteth ... the blind that are hated of David's soul, he shall be chief and captain. Wherefore they said, The blind and the lame shall not come into the house." -- 2 Samuel 5:8
Isn't it obvious now, why God does not permit blemished people to approach His altar?
"Whosoever ... hath any blemish, let him not approach to offer the bread of his God. For whatsoever man he be that hath a blemish, he shall not approach: a blind man, or a lame, or he that hath a flat nose, or any thing superfluous, Or a man that is brokenfooted, or brokenhanded, Or crookbackt, or a dwarf, or that hath a blemish in his eye, or be scurvy, or scabbed, or hath his stones broken;... Only he shall not go in unto the vail, nor come nigh unto the altar, because he hath a blemish; that he profane not my sanctuaries." -- Leviticus 21:17-23
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I've already pointed out Obama's pandering to the blemished, many of whom are witches. But it gets worse. Obama is recruiting those who are hated of David's soul: Obama campaign reaches out to deaf community.
No wonder kids listen to so much loud devil-rock music - they know that if they end up deafened, they will be coddled by their big mulatto nanny.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-09-2008, 09:27 PM
Stem cells are not people.
And how can being born with a disability be a punishment for pissing off God? How can a baby possibly have sinned before it was even conceived?
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-09-2008, 10:45 PM
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Stem cells are not people.
And how can being born with a disability be a punishment for pissing off God? How can a baby possibly have sinned before it was even conceived?
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Why not? I'm not writing out a huge theological explanation that you should have learned in Bible School. Look here, this is the gist:
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One long-term result of "the fall" was that all of their descendants were born in a state of "original sin".
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Adam and Eve, disobeyed God and ate "the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil." When they disobeyed, they committed a crime against God and were immediately punished. Sin and death entered the world for the first time.
A consequence of original sin is that every person's normal destination at death is Hell, where they will be eternally punished without any hope of mercy or relief.
Another result had been an unbridgeable chasm between God and humanity; reconciliation and avoidance of Hell can only be achieved through the individual becoming "saved."
Salvation is based on the concept of substitutionary atonement, i.e the Crucifixion and the Resurrection
Ephesians 2:8-9: "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-09-2008, 11:37 PM
Stem cells are people indeed! Even though they are as yet a tiny cluster of cells, they have a soul!! And when they divide into two people, they have two souls!! This is all according to God's Plan!!
Why do these hateful monkey worshiping scientists have such cold disregard for blessed human life?
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-10-2008, 07:02 AM
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And how can being born with a disability be a punishment for pissing off God? How can a baby possibly have sinned before it was even conceived?
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It's called Pre-Emptive Punishment.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-10-2008, 08:21 AM
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Stem cells are not people.
And how can being born with a disability be a punishment for pissing off God? How can a baby possibly have sinned before it was even conceived?
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Did you not read the Bible verses above you? THAT is why the tards are crippled! Dumb-bucket!
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
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If you are here to flame us, then you'd better read THIS, trollboy.
Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:
Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-17-2008, 05:13 PM
Jesus wouldn't allow babies to be made if He didn't want them to be born.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-18-2008, 07:02 PM
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We're not here to be one of your "flamer hangouts". Whatever sort of flaming you do will be accepted in Hell, I can assure you of that. I suggest you go hang out at the bus stops with all your friends and leave us True Christians™ to spread the Gospel to people not blind to the Truth™. Either open your mind to the Loving message of the Gospel, or don't waste our time. Our message is valuable, and the Bible commands us not to spread our Pearls of Wisdom® to swine like you.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-18-2008, 08:33 PM
As you do all your "flaming" in bus station restrooms the only cells you are familiar with have tails and swim.
Go troll one of the catlick forums.
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Leviticus 26:27-29
27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-18-2008, 10:23 PM
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What do you mean? I see no problem with what you said.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-20-2008, 04:01 AM
Cells cannot talk
Cells do not have a brain, Nucleus but no brain
Cells cannot express their own opinion
Cells do not have any thought process
therefore, Cells arent people.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-20-2008, 01:40 PM
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Cells cannot talk
Cells do not have a brain, Nucleus but no brain
Cells cannot express their own opinion
Cells do not have any thought process
therefore, Cells arent people.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-20-2008, 09:04 PM
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Cells cannot talk
Cells do not have a brain, Nucleus but no brain
Cells cannot express their own opinion
Cells do not have any thought process
therefore, Cells arent people.
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I'm afraid that's not true. Guys who can;t talk are people.Also guys who are retarted or cannot express their own opinion due to a religion or a goverment(huh,where did I see THAT one these days?) are people too.
So,to sum it up,if True Christians are people, stem cells are people too,
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-20-2008, 11:22 PM
Look at this twisted article from a LIEbral that continues to mock our Godly Pastor Zeke.
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The abortion debate solved
By Ezekiel K. Bush - September 20, 2008, 12:15AM
I was recently talking to my wife about the prospect of the McCain/Palin (or Palin/McCain) winning this election then turning the Supreme Court into a perverted wet dream of the foaming at the mouth right wing. We are one close (and most likely stolen) election away from the reversal of roe v wade, and women in this Country being forced to give birth to children they are unprepared to raise. The morning after pill will be eliminated, and if they have their way, birth control may be as well. Abstinence only education will be the only education children get in schools, right along with learning how dinosaurs were on board Noah's Ark and that Adam and Eve were the first living beings on this planet when God created the earth and the entire Universe a few thousand years ago.
But my wife made a point that should be brought up to every pro life person out there. They should be forced to answer the following questions, and they shouldn't be allowed to skirt the issue with answers that don't make sense (keep in mind, nothing they say makes much sense - but this is one of the best arguments I've heard to combat the pro life viewpoint. You simply agree with them, and make their God as big as they claim he is.
Evangelical Christians believe the following:
1) God does not make mistakes
2) God is all powerful and can do anything he chooses
Life begins at conception and is pre-ordained ("before I formed you in the womb, I knew you" Jeremiah 1:5
God decides when to “call us home”. We’ve all heard Christians say when trying to comfort us about the loss of a loved one, “They are in a better place”, “God needed them in Heaven more than we needed them here”, or “It was their time, and only God can know when that is”.
Taking all this into account, why would we mere mortals presume that God wouldn’t be able to save a baby if he wanted to? Also, there are many examples in the Old Testament of God using humans to do his work. What if he’s just deciding that the babies that do get aborted are supposed to be “called home”? Don’t Christians have faith that God will decide which baby’s are born and which are called home?
What about Christians who are all too willing to send our young men and women into war? Does God decide who lives or dies, or by choosing to participate in an unnecessary war did we decide for God? What is the first thing we hear when our brothers or sisters or parents come home in a pine box? We hear that they are in a “perfect place”, free of pain and suffering and worry and want. So we as humans are going to deny small babies that same perfection? And many of the soldiers who die are going to go to Hell, and will spend eternity burning and in constant unbearable torture for ever and ever and ever. With unborn babies, I’m sure God takes them into his loving arms and they will forever bask in the eternal bliss of heaven.
What about the condemned prisoner? How can the pro lifers feel that we have the right to decide when someone is called home, regardless of the crimes he’s committed on this earth? Isn’t Christianity at its heart a religion of forgiveness? How can a man who’s received God’s forgiveness be executed? Wouldn’t the twelve men and women on the jury, the people involved in the prosecution, and the Governor be risking God’s wrath by killing one of his beloved children? If you value the life of an unborn child and feel that taking that life is a sin, how is allowing a condemned man to die any less of a sin?
The question we pro choicers need to ask the pro lifers is why they feel the need to distrust God. We believe in choice. We believe that God will not allow a life to be taken that shouldn’t. Maybe if a group of cells is aborted, God simply transfers that soul into another woman? How can we say? We can’t. But we don’t presume to turn God into god by limiting his power or by putting him in a small box and claiming that he can only create life in babies and take it once they’ve been born.
Have the pro lifers considered that changing the law and taking the decision out of the hands of God, we are putting millions of babies at risk? Those babies would have spent eternity in heaven, in eternal bliss. But instead, we are sentencing a good portion of them to eternity in hell. Those babies will undoubtedly not have the cushy life that Governor Palin’s granddaughter has. They will be born to drug addicted mothers, and into poverty. They may not get a good education, and will most likely at one point in their life commit the unforgivable sin of blasphemy. And when they are roasting in hell, their skin being burned off as they are continually cast into the lake of fire do you think they will thank you?
I think not.
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Leviticus 26:27-29
27 And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
28 Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-23-2008, 02:53 AM
THIS IS WHAT MURDER LOOKS LIKE!
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-24-2008, 04:50 AM
Whoa, and you're a moderator. I think I just realized this whole place is a practical joke.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-24-2008, 05:43 AM
The joke will be on you when you end up in the fiery pits of hell, you Godmocker. Why do you hate Baby Jesus?
Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
Psalm 81:10:
I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
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Re: STEM CELLS ARE PEOPLE TOO! -
09-24-2008, 10:46 AM
You do know that that Stem Cells are not even human, right?
A Stem Cell is a cell which can be manipulated into taking on the form of any other cell in the body, most commonly found in a foetus.
A Foetus isn't even a baby, it's essentially a parasite.
A "cripple" is a person who's genetics were either messed up during conception or a person who has been injured beyond repair later in life.
Stem Cells are about a human as a Red Blood Cell are, 0% human.
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