[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Originally Posted by Didymus Much

And until you can prove that Mr. Schrader is not a porn spammer, how about apologizing to Mr. Hutchins for that slur?

It looks like a case of the sin of hatred to me, and Didymus, I'm wondering what your motives are. I don't have the authority to check that so called link, I doubt very much that it will not be investigated.

Mr. Hutchins made the accusation, not me, he is the one that needs to back up his mouth.

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Originally Posted by Robert William

It looks like a case of the sin of hatred to me, and Didymus, I'm wondering what your motives are. I don't have the authority to check that so called link, I doubt very much that it will be investigated.

Mr. Hutchins made the accusation, not me, he is the one that needs to back up his mouth.

Spelling correction.

[Marko Loimaan-Aho]

Originally Posted by Robert William

Spelling correction.

Oh, Bobbie.

I have read some of your posts. You seem to be very confused.
And I notice that you love yourself and your own opinions very much.
In many threads you comment 3-5 times before nobody else does.
That is not conversation. That is "I love my voice"-behaviour.

That is also not very Christian. Actually not at all. Christians on this forum are not narcissists

James 4:1-6

If you do not repent, you are going to burn in Hell.

[Didymus Much]

Originally Posted by Robert William

It looks like a case of the sin of hatred to me...

And your judgement is faultless, of course. /sarcasm

Mr. Hutchins is showing True Christian™ Love©® by pointing out Mr. Schrader's sins to him, in the hopes that he will accept Christ and join him in Heaven where they can praise His Holy Name (which is Jealous, btw) for eternity. That's not hatred (according to the Bible).

...and Didymus, I'm wondering what your motives are...

I just like helping people actually live up to the title, "Christian", by making sure that they know what the Bible really says. I'm awful, that way.

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Robert William

This verse tells me that regeneration has to precede faith, because the natural man considers the gospel to be foolishness, so why would he choose it?.


1Co 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.


Also, what about the apostle Paul, he was changed first, so much for his free will.

Let's see what Paul has to say about that.

ACTS 26
2-3 I think myself happy, king Agrippa, because I shall answer for myself this day before thee touching all the things whereof I am accused of the Jews: Especially because I know thee to be expert in all customs and questions which are among the Jews: wherefore I beseech thee to hear me patiently.
4-5 My manner of life from my youth, which was at the first among mine own nation at Jerusalem, know all the Jews; Which knew me from the beginning, if they would testify, that after the most straitest sect of our religion I lived a Pharisee.
6-18 And now I stand and am judged for the hope of the promise made of God unto our fathers: Unto which promise our twelve tribes, instantly serving God day and night, hope to come. For which hope's sake, king Agrippa, I am accused of the Jews. Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead? I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth. Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them. And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities. Whereupon as I went to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me? it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest. But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.
19 Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:
20-28 But shewed first unto them of Damascus, and at Jerusalem, and throughout all the coasts of Judaea, and then to the Gentiles, that they should repent and turn to God, and do works meet for repentance. For these causes the Jews caught me in the temple, and went about to kill me. Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which the prophets and Moses did say should come: That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles. And as he thus spake for himself, Festus said with a loud voice, Paul, thou art beside thyself; much learning doth make thee mad. But he said, I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness. For the king knoweth of these things, before whom also I speak freely: for I am persuaded that none of these things are hidden from him; for this thing was not done in a corner. King Agrippa, believest thou the prophets? I know that thou believest. Then Agrippa said unto Paul, Almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian.
KJV .. look up . context

Paul was educated within the old covenant of Mosaic Law. You will recall how Jesus advised those whom He healed to present themselves in the Temple and that He acknowledged the Jewish authorities as authorities in accordance with The Law even though they did not follow their own teachings. Are you suggesting that by preaching Jesus was removing free will from the people who heard Him?

He was not. And in exactly the same way when Jesus presented Himself to Paul, Paul's free will remained intact. Paul already knew what The Law said but did not follow it. Paul was disobedient. But Paul had a choice: to remain disobedient or not. In verse 19 Paul explains that he chose to remain disobedient no longer but to receive the things of the Spirit of God which had been offered to him.

An experience of pricks is not unique to Paul (verse 14) and many of us have been troubled by such things; let's face it they can be difficult to ignore at times when Jesus is to hand, encouraging us to turn towards Him. We don't have to do that, it remains a choice, but when we choose Jesus many good things come. Things hoped for. Jesus always delivers.

HEBREWS 11
1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
KJV .. look up . context

Satan can't compete with Jesus. The false promise of fleeting bliss, dubious offers of riches and dates, luxurious fabrics and well spiced fancies but his condiments are bitter at the end as Paul recognised & as we read in Hebrews:

HEBREWS 11
40a God having provided some better thing for us..
KJV .. look up . read more here

I hope you read the links and respond to them, rather than just shoot off a load of extraneous material. Jesus has made us an offer because we are unfinished Hebrews 12:2 and once we learn what He has it's always possible to say "No, thank you" even though He's standing and ready to finish us off.

That is my yearning for you. To see your chains shaken.

What Jesus does is called knocking. He can set you free.

But only you can open the door.

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Originally Posted by Marko Loimaan-Aho

Oh, Bobbie.

I have read some of your posts. You seem to be very confused.
And I notice that you love yourself and your own opinions very much.
In many threads you comment 3-5 times before nobody else does.
That is not conversation. That is "I love my voice"-behaviour.

That is also not very Christian. Actually not at all. Christians on this forum are not narcissists

James 4:1-6

If you do not repent, you are going to burn in Hell.

Burn in Hell. Sorry, but God's children are not appointed to wrath.


It's called getting of the fence and knowing what I believe, this is why He gave His children the Holy Spirit and the word, God has not left His children in confusion, that being said I also acknowledge that I have a lot more to learn.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Robert William

It looks like a case of the sin of hatred to me, and Didymus, I'm wondering what your motives are. I don't have the authority to check that so called link, I doubt very much that it will not be investigated.

Mr. Hutchins made the accusation, not me, he is the one that needs to back up his mouth.

Friend, you have some serious issues. Reflecting on a four year old post as if you have a clue what you are talking about. I checked with the archivist. Porn posts were removed from the thread. Do you really want to see what they call 'scatting'?

You have so little faith. You post with so little understanding of God. Why do you mock decent people?

[Robert William, Spiritual Dunce]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

Friend, you have some serious issues. Reflecting on a four year old post as if you have a clue what you are talking about. I checked with the archivist. Porn posts were removed from the thread. Do you rally want to see what they call 'scatting'?

You have so little faith. You post with so little understanding of God. Why do you mock decent people?

Greetings James, remember when you point you have three pointing back at you, we all often have issues to resolve, information helps us to resolve issues, so thanks a lot for confirming the porn posts.

[James Hutchins]

Originally Posted by Robert William

Greetings James, remember when you point you have three pointing back at you, we all often have issues to resolve, information helps us to resolve issues, so thanks a lot for confirming the porn posts.

???? Drinking again? You made no sense.

What does the following mean:
lookintheroadahead

Yes, it is a trick, one used to exemplify requiring full knowledge of all context before blinding charging forward with poor choices.

You see Robert, just like with the Bible, you must read all of the Bible, and follow all of it, not just the word (or letters) that you feel the need to dwell on during a moment of deluded psychosis.

[MitzaLizalor]

But you are not God's child. You declare that you—as a subset of all people—are unable to exist without sinning. As God has explained, that is impossible for His children.

[Roland]

Originally Posted by James Hutchins

[...] Porn posts were removed from the thread. Do you really want to see what they call 'scatting'?[...]

Since I did not know what scatting is I had to Google it, or more precisely Youtube it. I fail to see how Ella Fitzgerald is porn, other than maybe to hardcore Jazz aficionado´s. I certainly would not call it inappropriate.

[Witch Hammer]

Originally Posted by Roland

Since I did not know what scatting is I had to Google it, or more precisely Youtube it. I fail to see how Ella Fitzgerald is porn, other than maybe to hardcore Jazz aficionado´s. I certainly would not call it inappropriate.

Don't play coy with us, Roland...you know exactly what "scatting" is!

[Roland]

Originally Posted by Witch Hammer

Don't play coy with us, Roland...you know exactly what "scatting" is!

All the entries in Youtube I got were about Jazz, save two videos from a band called Skrillex. I heard that Google personalizes some results so your search might have led to different results. Maybe you would care to show us what you found when you were looking for scatting?

[Witch Hammer]

Originally Posted by Roland

All the entries in Youtube I got were about Jazz, save two videos from a band called Skrillex. I heard that Google personalizes some results so your search might have led to different results. Maybe you would care to show us what you found when you were looking for scatting?

Do your own research! Do you really need me to spoonfeed you scat?

[Roland]

Originally Posted by Witch Hammer

Do your own research! Do you really need me to spoonfeed you scat?

To spoonfeed someone scat might imply shoving them feces in the mouth . Though that might be just what your god tells you to do.

Scatting is vocal improvisation with wordless vocables,nonsense syllables or without words at all. Scat singing is a difficult technique that requires singers with the ability to sing improvised melodies and rhythms using the voice as an instrument rather than a speaking medium. According to Wikipedia.

This has nothing to do with porn, save perhaps some hardcore Jazz aficionado´s, and certainly not with spoon feeding scat. The latter is perhaps something for the Christians as per Ezekiel 4:12

[MitzaLizalor]

Originally Posted by Roland

All the entries in Youtube I got were about Jazz, save two videos from a band called Skrillex. I heard that Google personalizes some results so your search might have led to different results. Maybe you would care to show us what you found when you were looking for scatting?

Please stop trying to pick up Mr Hammer he is not interested in you. Perhaps there is something wrong with my browser I can't seem to find your introductory thread or have you not posted one.


..click notice to introduce yourself

[Roland]

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor

Please stop trying to pick up Mr Hammer he is not interested in you. Perhaps there is something wrong with my browser I can't seem to find your introductory thread or have you not posted one.f

Hello Mitza,

I can't seem to find my introductory thread either. This means it is either a problem in both our browsers or not a browser problem at all.

As for your questions: My favourite bible verse has been given to me and stands under every post I make, my church can be found somewhat to the right under my user name and Jesus is not a common name in these parts of Europe so I have met none.

[Witch Hammer]

Roland, I'm waiting for a sincere apology from you! True Christians have feelings, too...

[Roland]

Originally Posted by Witch Hammer

Roland, I'm waiting for a sincere apology from you! True Christians have feelings, too...

Dear Witch Hammer,

I do not know what I did to hurt your feelings but it hurts me to see you in agony. I apologize for anything that may have made you feel bad and I hope you feel better now.

[Witch Hammer]

In fact, my nose is so out of joint about this, I won't be satisfied until you start a new thread and publicly grovel for Jesus and my forgiveness therein!