[Pastor William Nathaniel Sampson]

Re: I Need Your Help With the Ten Commandments

I did pastor and I didn't find what Pastor Sampson linked me to. I do think that my list may have included some punishments that were not on the other list.

I recently completed 2 more commandments and I only brought this up to have experts like Pastor Sampson check my work for accuracy.

4th. Commandment, Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy”.


Old Testament punishment - Exodus 31:15 “Whosoever shall work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death”. Numbers 15:32. “And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the Sabbath day…And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.”
5th. Commandment, Exodus 20:12 “Honour thy father and thy mother”.


Old Testament punishment - Exodus 21:15-17 “And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death”. More punishment - Exodus 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death”.


When I found out that Landover Baptist felt the same way about listing the punishments with the commandments I was thrilled. That was a bonus. I am sorry if I wasted our Lord's holy bandwidth.
I hope this doesn't offend you or Jesus but here is goes. I am under investigation and can appreciate that. The unsaved should be unwelcome but at the same time I have investigated churches to see if they are practicing true or false doctrine. So far it looks like LBC is practicing true doctrine and so far all Jesus has told me on the subject is to keep digging so that I can ferret it out. He wants me to do this on my own for now.

Those are good points raised. I looked at the thread today and noticed that it was indeed missing Numbers 15. These are good observations.

I'm going to move these posts over to Pastor Rune's thread.

[4 Christ]

Re: I Need Your Help With the Ten Commandments

Those are good points raised. I looked at the thread today and noticed that it was indeed missing Numbers 15. These are good observations.

I'm going to move these posts over to Pastor Rune's thread.

Hey, I'm pleased that I was able to contribute but I am confused on this one.

6th. Commandment, Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill”. Strangely enough this is a commandment despite all the punishments that require death in the New Testament and the Old Testament. How can thou not kill when thou is commanded to kill at the same time God's enemies will ask? The liberal atheists will cry hypocrisy and twist scripture on this one. The confusion they will create on this commandment would surely bring capitol punishment into question. One of the things that makes this country a decent place is capital punishment.

The answer would be this I think. It comes with a caveat. Thou shalt not kill unless God orders it. That means to me that if someone violates God's law they should be put to death. Is that how I see it. What do you think?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: I Need Your Help With the Ten Commandments

Hey, I'm pleased that I was able to contribute but I am confused on this one.

6th. Commandment, Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill”. Strangely enough this is a commandment despite all the punishments that require death in the New Testament and the Old Testament. How can thou not kill when thou is commanded to kill at the same time God's enemies will ask? The liberal atheists will cry hypocrisy and twist scripture on this one. The confusion they will create on this commandment would surely bring capitol punishment into question. One of the things that makes this country a decent place is capital punishment.

The answer would be this I think. It comes with a caveat. Thou shalt not kill unless God orders it. That means to me that if someone violates God's law they should be put to death. Is that how I see it. What do you think?

When someone commits murder, we are supposed to kill that person. Then we must kill the person who killed the murderer too.

Genesis 9:6

King James Version (KJV)

6Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

[4 Christ]

Re: I Need Your Help With the Ten Commandments

When someone commits murder, we are supposed to kill that person. Then we must kill the person who killed the murderer too.

Genesis 9:6

King James Version (KJV)

6Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.

If they are saved does that still hold true?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: I Need Your Help With the Ten Commandments

If they are saved does that still hold true?

We must take God at His Word(c), my friend.

[Disciple_of_Khorne]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

1- genocide because people do not have the same religion as you is no better than genocide for a specific religion. much like what the NSDAP, or Nazis if you prefer, did to the Jews (or as you ignorant sacks of shit like to say "joo") in the 1930s and 40s

2- saying that all Europeans are godless heathens, that only true Christians are Americans and refusing to provide any kind of support is bullshit. The Vatican is in Europe, the head of the catholic church is German(Germany is in Europe if you didn't know, I wouldn't be surprised if most the people who post on this site couldn't find it on a map of Germany). Catholicism is part of Christianity(I wonder if some of your "True Christians" even know what Christianity is).

3- those that claim to be true Americans and true Christian but support the idea of genocide for not believing the same thing they do are hypocritical jackasses. Most Americans would say that their country is one of liberty , freedom and democracy but these people say thousands or even millions should die because they do not believe what they do. The 6th commandment is thou shall not kill. Why is it right for thousands or millions or even a single person to die because one man claims it is what god wants?


I have not read through all 23 pages of this crap but this is what I think about what I have read.

[Holy Donkey]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

In reference to commandments 1 & 2, I was just curious as to what circumstances would differentiate between every person being killed, and then all being killed besides some women being kept alive for raping?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

In reference to commandments 1 & 2, I was just curious as to what circumstances would differentiate between every person being killed, and then all being killed besides some women being kept alive for raping?

God said so.

[Pastor Rune Enoe]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

In reference to commandments 1 & 2, I was just curious as to what circumstances would differentiate between every person being killed, and then all being killed besides some women being kept alive for raping?

First of all, I have to caution you to remember that this question is obviously a purely hypothetical one, since Biblical Law hasn't been introduced in our great country yet.

In order then to analyze this - purely hypothetical - question, we may let the Bible interpret the Bible by looking at some examples in the past:

Numbers 31:14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.
Numbers 31:15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
Numbers 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
Numbers 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

In this case it was the women who had caused the children of Israel to trespass against the Lord -- much like Eve did when she caused Adam to fall. Therefore God ordered His people to kill only "every woman that hath known man by lying with him", since it would unfair to kill young innocent girls.

Let's juxtapose this with the battle of Jericho:

Joshua 6:17 And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent.
Joshua 6:18 And ye, in any wise keep yourselves from the accursed thing, lest ye make yourselves accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it.
[. . .]
Joshua 6:21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
Joshua 6:22 But Joshua had said unto the two men that had spied out the country, Go into the harlot's house, and bring out thence the woman, and all that she hath, as ye sware unto her.
Joshua 6:23 And the young men that were spies went in, and brought out Rahab, and her father, and her mother, and her brethren, and all that she had; and they brought out all her kindred, and left them without the camp of Israel.
Joshua 6:24 And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD.
Joshua 6:25 And Joshua saved Rahab the harlot alive, and her father's household, and all that she had; and she dwelleth in Israel even unto this day; because she hid the messengers, which Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.

In the case of a Holy War against infidels, the situation is quite different. God's people killed the entire enemy "both man and woman, young and old" including the animals.

There might seem to be an incongruity here. Why was Rahab the harlot allowed to live? Why is it that God first orders His people to "kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him" -- and then orders Joshua to "utterly destroy[] all that was in the city" and kill women, children and cattle, but to spare Rahab the Harlot?

How do we interpret this purported contradiction? We don't! Once again we let the Bible interpret itself:

Hebrews 11:31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.

That's what True Christianity™ is all about. Faith! Have faith in our Savior and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

[Holy Donkey]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

God said so.

"God said so" is a very ignorant and unintelligent response to my question.

reminds me of when a child misbehaves and blames their friend saying "he told me so"

[Didymus Much]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

"God said so" is a very ignorant and unintelligent response to my question.

reminds me of when a child misbehaves and blames their friend saying "he told me so"

Child's friend is not God, your point is irrelevant.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

"God said so" is a very ignorant and unintelligent response to my question.

reminds me of when a child misbehaves and blames their friend saying "he told me so"

And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.
Matthew 18:3

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

"God said so" is a very ignorant and unintelligent response to my question.

reminds me of when a child misbehaves and blames their friend saying "he told me so"

You got two answers to your unintelligent comment with question mark, condensed and expanded. You decided to be ignorant and ignore the other one. Was is too long for you?

Of course, it is possible that you missed it, so let me do you a favor. Here it is again.

First of all, I have to caution you to remember that this question is obviously a purely hypothetical one, since Biblical Law hasn't been introduced in our great country yet.

In order then to analyze this - purely hypothetical - question, we may let the Bible interpret the Bible by looking at some examples in the past:

Numbers 31:14 And Moses was wroth with the officers of the host, with the captains over thousands, and captains over hundreds, which came from the battle.
Numbers 31:15 And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?
Numbers 31:16 Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.
Numbers 31:17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
Numbers 31:18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

In this case it was the women who had caused the children of Israel to trespass against the Lord -- much like Eve did when she caused Adam to fall. Therefore God ordered His people to kill only "every woman that hath known man by lying with him", since it would unfair to kill young innocent girls.

Let's juxtapose this with the battle of Jericho:

Joshua 6:17 And the city shall be accursed, even it, and all that are therein, to the LORD: only Rahab the harlot shall live, she and all that are with her in the house, because she hid the messengers that we sent.
Joshua 6:18 And ye, in any wise keep yourselves from the accursed thing, lest ye make yourselves accursed, when ye take of the accursed thing, and make the camp of Israel a curse, and trouble it.
[. . .]
Joshua 6:21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
Joshua 6:22 But Joshua had said unto the two men that had spied out the country, Go into the harlot's house, and bring out thence the woman, and all that she hath, as ye sware unto her.
Joshua 6:23 And the young men that were spies went in, and brought out Rahab, and her father, and her mother, and her brethren, and all that she had; and they brought out all her kindred, and left them without the camp of Israel.
Joshua 6:24 And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD.
Joshua 6:25 And Joshua saved Rahab the harlot alive, and her father's household, and all that she had; and she dwelleth in Israel even unto this day; because she hid the messengers, which Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.

In the case of a Holy War against infidels, the situation is quite different. God's people killed the entire enemy "both man and woman, young and old" including the animals.

There might seem to be an incongruity here. Why was Rahab the harlot allowed to live? Why is it that God first orders His people to "kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him" -- and then orders Joshua to "utterly destroy[] all that was in the city" and kill women, children and cattle, but to spare Rahab the Harlot?

How do we interpret this purported contradiction? We don't! Once again we let the Bible interpret itself:

Hebrews 11:31 By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.

That's what True Christianity™ is all about. Faith! Have faith in our Savior and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

[python]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

I found this website because of Ricky Gervais on his world famous podcast which had over 300,000,000+ downloads. But I saw that this website is just a Christan forum, I found that out online, but it says this is taken very seriously.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The Ten Commandments and their Punishments

I found this website because of Ricky Gervais on his world famous podcast which had over 300,000,000+ downloads. But I saw that this website is just a Christan forum, I found that out online, but it says this is taken very seriously.

So there's yet another fool who believes everything he reads on the internet without citation.

Look, friend, telling the world about the actual word of God instead of what fake Christians who make it up as they go along say is no joke!