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  • Ezekiel Bathfire
    Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
    Christ's Rottweiler
     
    • Jan 2008
    • 22886

    #1

    A Painting From The Time of Christ.

    Landover Foundation for Christian Art is proud to announce that they have acquired from the Roseblatt Tel Aviv Institute for Biblical Antiquities, the original painting of “The Universe Prior to The Creation.”

    The Work, in oil on shitim wood. is believed to have been done by the Disciple Thomas with whom Jesus spoke in John 13, and who was present when Jesus uttered the immortal words: Joh:17:5: And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

    This tentative attribution is based upon a few words by the historian Jospehus in “The Antiquity of the Jews” who mentions “and one of their number made images but not of earthly things,” and the idea that Thomas was depressed at Christ’s temporary death and would have painted such things.

    The Roseblatt Institute traced the provenance of the painting from Jerusalem to the Republic of Florence in the 11th century where a small war was fought over the ownership (details are sketchy and this was probably part of the “Investiture Controversy” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Investiture_Controversy and among documents found in the papers of the contemporary Margrave of Florence there is a note of “One frame for a painting: 20 Florins” and this coincides with the style of the frame in which the picture is now housed.

    The painting reappeared in the mid-1300’s in southern Bavaria in the ownership of Hertzog Mannfred Von Ehrenburg when, at the time of the Black Death, it may well have been the painting that was taken to be a specific against infection. According to tradition, a sufferer should, at night and in a dark room, stare intently at the painting and contemplate the ineffability Christ.

    It is believed that the painting remained within the Von Ehrenburg family for many centuries but changed hands in the War of Austrian Succession during which the Von Ehrenburg line perished.

    Why the painting is next thought to have appeared in St Petersburg is a mystery but in an early draft of Evgeny Onegin by Alexander Sergeyevich Pushkin, now lost, there was a line “The black of the black of the Emptiness” in reference to a painting at Tatyana’s home.

    The Roseblatt Institute came into possession of the painting in late 1940 at an auction of the estate of Leon Trotsky in Mexico City.

    Negotiations for the sale to Landover have now been completed and the painting will be on display at The Landover Foundation for Christian Art from November 9th for a week for Platinum tithers, followed by general viewing thereafter - admission $100 per person.

    This is a remarkable chance to connect with Christ through the work of a Disciple.

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    “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

    Author of such illuminating essays as,
    Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.
  • Basilissa
    South of the Border outreach program
    True Christian™
     
    • Mar 2013
    • 12978

    #2
    Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

    I have to add that the photograph does not reflect the deep richness of the painting.

    It is the most beautiful painting by an Apostle that I've ever seen.
    God created fossils to test our faith.

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    • Dana723
      Forum member
      Forum Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 771

      #3
      Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

      Absolutely beautiful and breathtaking! I tried to print it out to display in our living room, but sadly we ran out of ink halfway through. Is there a way to buy a print?
      Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
      1 Corinthians 11:13

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      • Martha Chump
        Unsaved trash
        • Oct 2020
        • 86

        #4
        Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

        This is amazing! What a beautiful painting!

        How can one see it and not believe in a living God?
        Psalm 19:14 Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O Lord, my strength, and my redeemer.

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        • Dr. Anthony J. Toole
          An old soul
          True Christian™
          • Aug 2013
          • 5002

          #5
          Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

          You know what it looks like to me? Finally someone painting decent conservative art.
          If I have seen further, it is by standing on the heads of others.

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          • Joanna Lytton-Vasey
            True Christian™ Lady Extraordinaire, an Honorary Male Biblicist
             
            • Jul 2014
            • 8409

            #6
            Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

            Oh, what a beautiful painting! It's just how I always imagined the universe prior to God's creative intervention. Is there a name for this style of art: Primitive Realism, perhaps?
            Vaccinated by the love of Jesus!!!

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            • Johny Joe Hold
              Mayor of Freehold
               
              • Feb 2010
              • 12702

              #7
              Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

              One thing I hate is abstract art, paintings of nothing. Here we have a precious work of realism that informs us in our faith.

              I hope adequate precautions are being taking for security. No doubt art thieves around the world know exactly where this piece is located.
              Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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              • Joanna Lytton-Vasey
                True Christian™ Lady Extraordinaire, an Honorary Male Biblicist
                 
                • Jul 2014
                • 8409

                #8
                Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

                Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
                I hope adequate precautions are being taking for security. No doubt art thieves around the world know exactly where this piece is located.
                Should we perhaps ask the forum administrators to delete this thread? Obviously I have every confidence in Bobby-Joe and his team - thank you, gentlemen, for all you do - but in these times there is no need to ask for trouble. And I hate to bother Jesus with unnecessary prayers.
                Vaccinated by the love of Jesus!!!

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                • Ezekiel Bathfire
                  Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                  Christ's Rottweiler
                   
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 22886

                  #9
                  Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

                  Originally posted by Johny Joe Hold View Post
                  I hope adequate precautions are being taking for security. No doubt art thieves around the world know exactly where this piece is located.
                  More than adequate Mr Mayor: Pastor Zeke has blessed it. The Lord is watching over it.
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                  “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                  Author of such illuminating essays as,
                  Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                  • Ezekiel Bathfire
                    Pastor for Diversity and Tolerance
                    Christ's Rottweiler
                     
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 22886

                    #10
                    Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

                    Originally posted by Joanna Lytton-Vasey View Post
                    Oh, what a beautiful painting! It's just how I always imagined the universe prior to God's creative intervention. Is there a name for this style of art: Primitive Realism, perhaps?
                    Pre-primordian.

                    This was the name given to it by the venerable Bede in his work "De temporibus" (703AD): "on meting be þæm folgerum Crists halig hāteþ ond cræftwise, anteprimum, be se Eallwealda het inblæweþ."

                    [a painting by the Disciples of Christ is called holy and in style [is called] pre-primordian as the Almighty inspires it.]

                    Given the subject, this name seems most felicitous but I suggest that it be called "Thomasian Pre-primordian" as, who knows, other Disciples might have tried their hand.
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                    “We must reassert that the essence of Christianity is the love of obedience to God’s Laws and that how that complete obedience is used or implemented does not concern us.”

                    Author of such illuminating essays as,
                    Map of the Known World; Periodic Table of Elements; The History of Linguistics; The Errors of Wicca; Dolphins and Evolution; The History of Landover (The Apology); Landover and the Civil War; 2000 Racial Slurs.

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                    • Joanna Lytton-Vasey
                      True Christian™ Lady Extraordinaire, an Honorary Male Biblicist
                       
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 8409

                      #11
                      Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

                      Thank you, Pastor Bathfire.
                      Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
                      Given the subject, this name seems most felicitous but I suggest that it be called "Thomasian Pre-primordian" as, who knows, other Disciples might have tried their hand.
                      If they did, then it seems that has not seen fit to preserve their work. Or perhaps it is just that He has not yet revealed it to us?
                      Vaccinated by the love of Jesus!!!

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                      • WWJDnow
                        True Christian™
                        True Christian™
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6312

                        #12
                        Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

                        That's definitely Thomas's work. No doubt about it.
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                        • Johny Joe Hold
                          Mayor of Freehold
                           
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 12702

                          #13
                          Re: A Painting From The Time of Christ.

                          Originally posted by WWJDnow View Post
                          That's definitely Thomas's work. No doubt about it.
                          It speaks to me as profound, yet minimalist and understated. What a find.
                          Isaiah 24:1-3 Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty (2)...as the taker of usury, so with the giver of usury to him. (3) The land shall be utterly emptied, and utterly spoiled: for the LORD hath spoken his word.

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