Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

[Repentant Liberal]

Imagine you are standing on a merry-go round, you would get dizzy from all the spinning. If you were on the merry-go-round from birth though, you would be use to the spinning and wouldn't notice it. But then the merry-go round starts spinning in the other direction, you would get twice as dizzy and disoriented!

Now, since you've been on Earth your whole life you don't notice the alleged spinning. But if you went to the other hemisphere, you'd be spinning in the opposite direction than you have your whole life, so you would get dizzy, nauseous, even unable to stand. Since this doesn't happen the world must not spin, so the Sun must revolve around the Earth!

[Rodders]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

I don't even know where to begin correcting the mistakes in this.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Please begin by making a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

Kudos to our repentant liberal, for embracing God's Holy Word.

[Repentant Liberal]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

I don't even know where to begin correcting the mistakes in this.

That's because there are no mistakes to correct.

[Brother V]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

I've never personally met anyone who has gone around the world. When I travel to Europe, I go east. When I travel to Asia, I go west. I don't know anyone who has "circumnavigated" the "globe". Do you?

Just like I've never met anyone who has been to the moon.

Without firsthand knowledge, how am I to know for sure.

Friend, that's where BELIEF comes in. I can either believe the television news, newspapers, the internet, or radio news when they tell me someone has gone around the world; or I can believe the Bible (KJV1611).

Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

The Bible hasn't lied to me yet, but the news sure has.

YIC
V

[John Scopes]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Imagine you are standing on a merry-go round, you would get dizzy from all the spinning. If you were on the merry-go-round from birth though, you would be use to the spinning and wouldn't notice it. But then the merry-go round starts spinning in the other direction, you would get twice as dizzy and disoriented!

Now, since you've been on Earth your whole life you don't notice the alleged spinning. But if you went to the other hemisphere, you'd be spinning in the opposite direction than you have your whole life, so you would get dizzy, nauseous, even unable to stand. Since this doesn't happen the world must not spin, so the Sun must revolve around the Earth!

This is such a fascinating place. There is no end of scientific evidence here that even modern humans evolve at different rates.

In spite of the proven scientific fact that the sun, and solar system, coalesced out of a disk of gas billions of years ago, those with recessive genes still have the cognitive ability to use the internet and modern technology.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

[...] In spite of the proven scientific fact that the sun, and solar system, coalesced out of a disk of gas billions of years ago, [...]

I read a book called The King James Version 1611. This records all possible history from the Earth's creation, 6004BC, to somewhere around 70AD.

Now if there had been clouds of gas turning into the sun, I'm sure someone would have noticed it and included it in KJV1611. I mean, it's not the sort of thing that would happen one night when you are asleep, is it?

However, I am as open-minded as the next True Christian(tm) and if you can produce peer reviewed journals, written by True Christian Biblical Scientists,supporting your conclusion, I'll be willing to look into your wild claims.

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Imagine you are standing on a merry-go round, you would get dizzy from all the spinning. If you were on the merry-go-round from birth though, you would be use to the spinning and wouldn't notice it. But then the merry-go round starts spinning in the other direction, you would get twice as dizzy and disoriented!

Now, since you've been on Earth your whole life you don't notice the alleged spinning. But if you went to the other hemisphere, you'd be spinning in the opposite direction than you have your whole life, so you would get dizzy, nauseous, even unable to stand. Since this doesn't happen the world must not spin, so the Sun must revolve around the Earth!

Not particularly. The rotation of the Earth remains constant, with the same general vector of motion, even on the Southern Hemisphere. If you're talking about East to West circumnavigation, it's because when travelling along that direction your speed is ultimately tied to the Earth, being that your still within its atmosphere.

Sort of the same reason why objects in a car driving along a banked oval track simulating a straight trajectory don't move backwards when you drop them. They're already moving at the velocity of the object carrying them, though their direction of movement relative to an outside observer is parabolic.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Not particularly. The rotation of the Earth remains constant, with the same general vector of motion, even on the Southern Hemisphere. If you're talking about East to West circumnavigation, it's because when travelling along that direction your speed is ultimately tied to the Earth, being that your still within its atmosphere.

Sort of the same reason why objects in a car driving along a banked oval track simulating a straight trajectory don't move backwards when you drop them. They're already moving at the velocity of the object carrying them, though their direction of movement relative to an outside observer is parabolic.

Blah blah blah. You're a dead kraut spouting off nonsense.

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Blah blah blah. You're a dead kraut spouting off nonsense.

Nonsense? But if it were nonsense and Aristotle's view of absolute motion and rest were true, then an object dropped in the back seat of a car travelling at a constant speed would have a visibly parabolic path, moving backwards as well as down. In fact, it falls in what appears to be a straight line, despite the fact that the motion is in fact parabolic to an outside observer watching from a point stationary relative to the car.

[FoundGirlJNB]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Nonsense? But if it were nonsense and Aristotle's view of absolute motion and rest were true, then an object dropped in the back seat of a car travelling at a constant speed would have a visibly parabolic path, moving backwards as well as down. In fact, it falls in what appears to be a straight line, despite the fact that the motion is in fact parabolic to an outside observer watching from a point stationary relative to the car.

Nice try buddy, but ultimately it is all PHYSICAL (as in physics... see what I did there??). Pun intended, naturally.

I have seen more than one poster failing to dazzle us with their wit and resorting to confuse us with their bull sh!t, but you have gone that extra mile... It ain't going to work, so find yourself a friendly atheist site and confuse them with your bull sh!t.

You think we know nothing but I will challenge you without fear, you idiot!!! Oh yes, an -Almost Christian Woman is challenging you...!!!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

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[...]Oh yes, an -Almost Christian Woman is challenging you...!!!

Which is somewhat similar to being attacked by a small hamster.

Nevertheless, I think you have him on the run. Ask him what he thinks God meant when He said, Psalms 93:1
The Lord reigns; he is robbed in majesty; the lord is robbed, he is girded with strength. Yea, the world is established; it shall never be moved.

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Nice try buddy, but ultimately it is all PHYSICAL (as in physics... see what I did there??). Pun intended, naturally.

I have seen more than one poster failing to dazzle us with their wit and resorting to confuse us with their bull sh!t, but you have gone that extra mile... It ain't going to work, so find yourself a friendly atheist site and confuse them with your bull sh!t.

You think we know nothing but I will challenge you without fear, you idiot!!! Oh yes, an -Almost Christian Woman is challenging you...!!!

I'm not trying to be confusing.

All I said is that objects travelling as a part of another object have the same direction of motion. A coin being kept in your car has the same direction of movement as the rest of your car. If your car is travelling at 60 km/h, then you, and any coins or objects in your car are also travelling at 60 km/h.

Now, to you, in the car, see any objects in it as not moving, or, at rest, even though the objects in your car are moving when taking the perspective of a person standing on the sidewalk.

What that is, essentially, is the concept of relative motion. All objects in the universe move, so motion can only be defined in terms of comparison with other objects.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

[...] Now, to you, in the car, see any objects in it as not moving, or, at rest, even though the objects in your car are moving when taking the perspective of a person standing on the sidewalk.

If objects in your car are moving whilst you're driving, I would suspect demonic possession.

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

If objects in your car are moving whilst you're driving, I would suspect demonic possession.

It certainly would be strange, one could say.

That said, if the idea of relative motion holds with objects moving on Earth, then the Earth could also, despite moving, keep the individuals on it stationary. As long as the Earth doesn't undergo a traumatic change in speed, there would be absolutely no problem for anything to remain attached, since everything on the Earth is travelling at the same speed as the Earth.