[Abnormalamerican]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

i wish hitler could be respawned and create concentration camps for you "True" Christians. Your all idiots, the bible was created over thousands of years ago.. and you still base your lives around it. I believe in God, i'm just not as fanatic as all of you are. You are all equal to the terrorists in the middle east with views which are rediculous. I do not see why you care about other races or what other people do with their lives, you will be judged when you die, so you tell us. Someone argued that if god wanted a coin to move in another direction when in your car, he would have done it, that is true. But then why would of he created black people, jewish people, and atiest people, if he then wanted you to treat them like shit? I love America, but you people make me feel ashamed being part of it.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

i wish hitler could be respawned and create concentration camps for you "True" Christians. Your all idiots, the bible was created over thousands of years ago.. and you still base your lives around it. I believe in God, i'm just not as fanatic as all of you are. You are all equal to the terrorists in the middle east with views which are rediculous. I do not see why you care about other races or what other people do with their lives, you will be judged when you die, so you tell us. Someone argued that if god wanted a coin to move in another direction when in your car, he would have done it, that is true. But then why would of he created black people, jewish people, and atiest people, if he then wanted you to treat them like shit? I love America, but you people make me feel ashamed being part of it.

Listen up maggot;

We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER. We don't sugar-coat it like so many modern day false Christian churches do. If you have a problem with what we are saying, take it up with God.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself and why you hate Jesus.

[piercegraham]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

Actually, you're overestimating the effect of centrifugal force, though you are correct in asserting the fact it exists on a rotating body.

Taking the radius of the Earth to be 6.37 million meters and the general formula of 2π*radius, the circumfrence of the Earth is 40,023,856 meters.

By definition, an object on the surface of the Earth would cover all 40,023,856 meters in 24 hours, since that's one period of rotation.

Tangential Velocity can in turn be calculated using the formula 40,023,856/(24*3600). This is equal to 463.26 m/s.

Now, centrifugal force is calculated as M*Vt^2/R, where M is the mass of an object, Vt is tangential velocity, and R is the radius of the rotating object. For sake of simplicity, let's assume a hypothetical object of 50kg sitting on the Earth's surface. Thus (50*463.26^2/6,370,000) or, 1.68 newtons.

At the same time, the force of gravity on a 50kg object on Earth is 9.8m/s*50 or, in more practical terms, 490 newtons.

Therefore, Centrifugal force reduces the pull of gravity by about 0.34%...

Despite the relatively small size of centrifugal force, it actually does cause bulging in the Equator and changes the shape of the Earth, as would be consistent with a rotating body. It's also almost impossible to explain the coriolis effect without taking the Earth to be a rotating body.

Mr Nietzsche,
You seem like a very intelligent man. I will give you a piece of advice: Don't waste your time arguing with these people. You'll never convince them, it's too ingrained in their heads that the Bible is the only explanation. I suggest you spend your time doing something more constructive. All you're doing is wasting your time. Personnally, I joined this site because of a "is your child a goth?" post a few weeks ago, but ive found many more hilarious things. This post being another. The Earth, in my opinion, does revolve around the Sun, we have overwhelming evidence of this.

PS: to any Christian who is going to respond to this, could you tell me if there's a Bible passage that states that the Earth does not revolve around the sun? Any insight would be appreciated.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

PS: to any Christian who is going to respond to this, could you tell me if there's a Bible passage that states that the Earth does not revolve around the sun? Any insight would be appreciated.

Well, we know the sun revolves around the Earth because God stopped the sun in its tracks.

Joshua 10:12-13
Then spoke Joshua to the Lord in the day when the Lord gave the Amorites over to the men of Israel; and he said in the sight of Israel, "Sun, stand thou still at Gibeon, and thou Moon in the valley of Aijalon." And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation took vengeance on their enemies. Is this not written in the Book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and did not hasten to go down for about a whole day.


We also know the Earth does not move because of several Bible passages. The Earth remains still and will never move. Scientists are wrong about evolution and they are wrong about heliocentric "theory".

1 Chronicles 16:30
tremble before him, all earth; yea, the world stands firm, never to be moved.

Psalms 93:1
The Lord reigns; he is robbed in majesty; the lord is robbed, he is girded with strength. Yea, the world is established; it shall never be moved.

Psalms 96:10
Say among the nations, "The Lord reigns! Yea, the world is established, it shall never be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity."

[Meek and Humble]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

The Earth, in my opinion, does revolve around the Sun

We don't care about your dumb opinion, we want the truth.

[F. Nietzsche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

The issue isn't "does the earth rotate" it is does the "earth orbit the sun". None of what you discussed proved that the earth orbits the sun.

How could the Earth orbit the sun when the sun is more massive than the Earth? If your position was true, the Earth would have to be the most massive object in the solar system, or even the universe... it would have to be absolutely stationary, I presume.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

How could the Earth orbit the sun when the sun is more massive than the Earth? If your position was true, the Earth would have to be the most massive object in the solar system, or even the universe... it would have to be absolutely stationary, I presume.

Your assumption that the Sun is more massive than the earth is based on a Innocent reading of the distance of the sun to the earth.

Pastor Billy-Reuben addresses that topic right here with powerful teaching.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=18076

So if the sun is only 500 miles away that would mean it was significantly smaller.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

i wish hitler could be respawned and create concentration camps for you "True" Christians. Your all idiots, the bible was created over thousands of years ago.. and you still base your lives around it. I believe in God, i'm just not as fanatic as all of you are.

I see your false Christian "caring" and "compassion" on display there.

You are all equal to the terrorists in the middle east

...says the person who wishes Hitler could be respawned and create concentration camps for people who don't share your views.

But then why would of he created black people, jewish people, and atiest people, if he then wanted you to treat them like shit?

If you ever pulled the shrink wrap off of your Bible, you'd know.

Rom 9:20-24: Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

I love America, but you people make me feel ashamed being part of it.

Feelings mutual.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

How could the Earth orbit the sun when the sun is more massive than the Earth? If your position was true, the Earth would have to be the most massive object in the solar system, or even the universe... it would have to be absolutely stationary, I presume.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that there are some things that God can't do? Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

[Gemira]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

How could the Earth orbit the sun when the sun is more massive than the Earth? If your position was true, the Earth would have to be the most massive object in the solar system, or even the universe... it would have to be absolutely stationary, I presume.

Because mass does not account for all the gravity the Earth produces. You have to factor in the effects of sin as well.

[Hansche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

So, by your own reasoning it would be impossible to tell the difference between an immobile earth and a rotating, orbiting earth, correct? This means geo verse helio centric solar system is a matter of personal interpretation. Two different conclusions reached from the same data.

All we are saying is teach the controversy.

Are you seriously trying to tell us that there are some things that God can't do? Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

then why doesn't god save small children from being raped and murdered by deranged pedophiles (mostly found in the catholic church)?? Is he just trying to be an ass hole???

[Gemira]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

then why doesn't god save small children from being raped and murdered by deranged pedophiles (mostly found in the catholic church)?? Is he just trying to be an ass hole???

Careful what you say about God here. Sin must have consequences, original sin far more so.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

then why doesn't god save small children from being raped and murdered by deranged pedophiles (mostly found in the catholic church)?? Is he just trying to be an ass hole???

Exactly. Why would God care about the Catholic church? You post as if they actually have any relevance to everyday life!

[Hansche]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

I am just saying it doesn't matter what religion is involved no ones god is doing anything so they all blow donkey balls

[Gemira]

Re: Proof the Sun Revolves Around the Earth

That's because religion CANNOT do anything for you. Ours is a faith, based on recieving the unconditional grace of God through the sacrifice of His Son, Jesus Christ. Religions, on the other hand, are based on attempting to please a distant, impersonal god and hoping your good deeds outweigh your sins at the moment you die. No, really, look them up, they're all like that. No religion has a god that just GIVES you the ticket to Heaven with the acknowledgement that nothing you could ever do could possibly earn it.