[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

In my instance, I have already acquired salvation through my Faith in Jesus Christ. Now I want to know how God works in our world, which is called Creation Science. I'm not debating anyone. I'm not doing this for entertainment. I am genuinely looking for an answer to a question I have. If this is not the purpose of this thread, I am sorry. However, I don't think I'm wrong in assuming that creation scientists have an answer to my question. It still hasn't been answered, so I'll ask it again:

Since gravity (as the secular theorists call it) does not exist and God controls the all things, why does He allow atheists, secularists, naturalists, homosexuals, Satan, and blacks to continue to roam our green earth? Why does God choose to tolerate things He can't tolerate?

I am so confused. Please help.

All you know need to know is that Jesus Christ temporarily died on the cross because of your filthy anal abominations, and all you need to do is repent of this vicious crusade against God and Christianity.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

All you know need to know is that Jesus Christ temporarily died on the cross because of your filthy anal abominations, and all you need to do is repent of this vicious crusade against God and Christianity.

Nothing has ever gone into my anus, and the only thing to leave has been fecal matter. I don't believe by any means I have taken a vicious crusade against God and Christianity. I have only quoted Scripture to back myself up. I do fully believe in Christ's death. I only have one little question.

Again, this is an ad hominem attack and does not help me get any closer to the truth. Please only respond if you have a response to my question. All of the responses have been very helpful thus far when they apply to my question. Again, this thread's focus is on the immorality of gravity, not salvation. I've already read through that thread and agree with everything I read.

I am just looking for an answer to my question. Please help.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Nothing has ever gone into my anus, and the only thing to leave has been fecal matter. I don't believe by any means I have taken a vicious crusade against God and Christianity. I have only quoted Scripture to back myself up. I do fully believe in Christ's death. I only have one little question.

Again, this is an ad hominem attack and does not help me get any closer to the truth. Please only respond if you have a response to my question. All of the responses have been very helpful thus far when they apply to my question. Again, this thread's focus is on the immorality of gravity, not salvation. I've already read through that thread and agree with everything I read.

I am just looking for an answer to my question. Please help.

This whole forum is about Salvation(tm), friend, this thread included. The immorality of gravity is only important to us because your Salvation(tm) is important to us. If you want to spit in Jesus' face and burn in Hell, that is your choice, but I'm not going to pretend like that's not what you're doing. Remember, Jesus is my savior, and when you spit in His eye, I feel it too.

Just admit that you are spitting in Jesus' eye with this whole line of questioning, and I will stand aside.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

This whole forum is about Salvation™, friend, this thread included. The immorality of gravity is only important to us because your Salvation™ is important to us. If you want to spit in Jesus' face and burn in Hell, that is your choice, but I'm not going to pretend like that's not what you're doing. Remember, Jesus is my savior, and when you spit in His eye, I feel it too.

Just admit that you are spitting in Jesus' eye with this whole line of questioning, and I will stand aside.

I understand what you're saying. You make a very good point that the whole forum is about salvation. I'm sorry for my confusion.

I don't think I'm spitting in Jesus' eye at all. I just have a question I want answered. Please answer my question. God tells us to question things when we have a question. I have a question, and I would like it to be answered.

Please help. Thank you for those working on an answer to my question.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

God tells us to question things when we have a question. I have a question, and I would like it to be answered.

Does He really?

1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Seems to me that God wants us to do as we are told without question but you carry on making stuff up.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Does He really?

1 John 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

Seems to me that God wants us to do as we are told without question but you carry on making stuff up.

I don't see anywhere in either of those verses a place where it says to follow without question. Those verses in particular say that if we truly love Jesus, we will follow His commandments. So what are His commandments?

1 Thessalonians 5:21 says,
"Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."

Right now I am proving the argument of gravity's influence on morality by asking a question to help solidify the argument. Also, look at Jesus!

Matthew 15:21-28 says,
"Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon. And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, "Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil." But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, "Send her away; for she crieth after us." But he answered and said, "I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Then came she and worshipped him, saying, "Lord, help me." But he answered and said, "It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs." And she said, "Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table." Then Jesus answered and said unto her, "O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt." And her daughter was made whole from that very hour. "

Even Jesus Himself decided to show love to and answer the concern of a Canaanite woman. So why isn't my question valid? I'm not starting an argument or a debate. All I have is a question that I would like to be answered by the Creation Scientists of LBC. That question again is:

Since God is in direct control of all of the forces normally attributed to gravity, why does he tolerate the survival of those He hates and cannot tolerate - in particular atheists, homosexuals, secular scientists, witches, Satan, and blacks?

Thank you all for your time and gentleness (for the most part) in answering my questions.

PS I didn't miss that ad hominem attack.

but you carry on making stuff up.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Since God is in direct control of all of the forces normally attributed to gravity, why does he tolerate the survival of those He hates and cannot tolerate - in particular atheists, homosexuals, secular scientists, witches, Satan, and blacks?

Please point out the Bible verse where it says He hates blacks. Perhaps you are trying to find Biblical support to justify your own deep seated racism? If so, you will come up short.

But, to answer the rest of the question, God is Love (1 John 4:8) and He is gracious enough to give sinners like atheists, homosexuals, and other ilk a chance to repent. He loved the world so much (John 3:16) that He sent His only son to be crucified on the cross for the sins we were born with.

Still, I wouldn't consider it "tolerant" in any way, since eventually the sinners land in Hell for all eternity. That doesn't sound too tolerant to me. If God was tolerant of evil like you claim, then there would be no punishments for sin, right?

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Please point out the Bible verse where it says He hates blacks. Perhaps you are trying to find Biblical support to justify your own deep seated racism? If so, you will come up short.

But, to answer the rest of the question, God is Love (1 John 4:8) and He is gracious enough to give sinners like atheists, homosexuals, and other ilk a chance to repent. He loved the world so much (John 3:16) that He sent His only son to be crucified on the cross for the sins we were born with.

Still, I wouldn't consider it "tolerant" in any way, since eventually the sinners land in Hell for all eternity. That doesn't sound too tolerant to me. If God was tolerant of evil like you claim, then there would be no punishments for sin, right?

Finally. An answer. Thank you Rev. Osborne.

I do not hate black people at all. My mother is black. That whole side of my family is black in fact. Yes, I have read this forum's opinion on those of mixed race. The reason I brought up blacks is because they are seen as inferior to the members of this forum. That is all. Thank you for the answer.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Ephesians 6:6Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Ephesians 6:6Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;

I'm sorry. What are you getting at?

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

I'm sorry. What are you getting at?

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

You seem to forget God hates the gays, for example.

It's not for us to justify why He does anything at all.

Job 37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.

What I'm getting at is that you seem to be trying to railroad scripture into fluffy bunny hippie Jesus territory.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Leviticus 18:22 You shall not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

You seem to forget God hates the gays, for example.

It's not for us to justify why He does anything at all.

Job 37:5 God thundereth marvellously with his voice; great things doeth he, which we cannot comprehend.

What I'm getting at is that you seem to be trying to railroad scripture into fluffy bunny hippie Jesus territory.

1) Can you take this to my "Noob" thread so that this thread can keep on topic?

2) I did not forget that. Read my posts for further clarification.

3) I still don't understand how asking about gravity is "railroad[ing] scripture into fluffy bunny hippie territory."

Thanks to everyone who has helped me.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Why are you deliberately missing the point that we aren't meant to be able to understand why God does anything. God's not going to change His mind just because you're unable to understand Him.

[MichaelJohnson]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Why are you deliberately missing the point that we aren't meant to be able to understand why God does anything. God's not going to change His mind just because you're unable to understand Him.

I'm not asking Him to change His mind. I just want to understand. I do now. You, friend, are putting words in my mouth. Now, as I asked before, will you please direct this conversation to my "Noob" thread? That way this thread can stay on the topic of gravity. Thanks.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Gravity destroys your morals!

Since gravity (as the secular theorists call it) does not exist and God controls the all things, why does He allow atheists, secularists, naturalists, homosexuals, Satan, and blacks to continue to roam our green earth? Why does God choose to tolerate things He can't tolerate?

First of all, you can't demand "Why?" of God. I have already explained to you that He knows more than you do.

Isaiah 55:8-9: For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

All you need to know is that God uses us all as He sees fit. He used Charles Darwin to send countless people to hell. He allows the queers and feminazis to run rampant on earth so that they might serve as an example of how to get yourself condemned to hell. And so on.

You see, God did not create us to be His personal meat puppets. We have the choice to obey Him in all things or spend eternity being anally raped by every demon in hell.

I am so confused.

That is obvious.