[True Disciple]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Account for the missing land sharks

The simple fact that, in order to hunt on land, a shark would need to evolve lungs and a means or movement (during which time they would be at a distinct disadvantage in the water - lungs would shrink gills and developing legs would impede hydrodynamics).

Exactly. You are very right. Marine creatures cannot evolve into land creatures, because it is disadvantageous for them to have both lungs and gills. This is why sharks didn't evolve into land animals, and it is also why other fish never evolved into land animals, in contrast to what evilutionists claim. Thanks for confirming that.

Explain why human's aren't perfect

Partially see above but also, a third arm would have clear drawbacks (e.g. affecting balance).

Then why not an extra arm at both sides?

If evolution is true, then why don't trees stretch up to the stratosphere?

Because they would fall over? And no they wouldn't grow wider because when volume increases, mass increases twice as quickly as strength.

They could evolve a stronger and lighter material to build their stems. Why didn't that happen?

Please, for the sake of common sense, forget your deeply flawed and obviously wrong theories.

Our theories are quite a lot more scientific than yours. Learn here more about the major mistakes of secular science!

[balzac]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

We already understand the mechanism which allows evolution to take place, it is called DNA and is present in all living creatures and we learnt to manipulate it to create new strains of crops and genetically modified animals for research purposes. Evolution tries to explain how over long periods of time random variations in a species’ DNA can cause large changes in a species until it reaches a point that we can classified the evolved organism as a new species.

The theory of evolution is a component part of a scientific model that tries to explain every aspect of the universe that we live in. It has been hugely successful in allowing humans to interact with their environment. The computers that you all use are only possible because of an understanding of quantum physics (science of the very small) whilst the GPS satellites that direct your cars rely on Einstein’s theory of relativity (science of the very large). The one thing that science does not need is magic or the intervention of a supernatural being to work.

I am an atheist, but if there is a god then he has created a world that is stable, predictable, and measurable. All that science is doing is trying to understand God's creation. What is so terrible to say that humans evolved from primates? If there is a god and he is omnipotent then he must have know that firing off the big bang would have lead to the creation 15 billion years later of humans, which if that was what he planned then he has achieved it.

The problem with evolution is that it appears to contradict a few verses in the bible (I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong!). Why is this a problem? The way I see it is that God is not going to try and explain a complex scientific theory to a group of bronze age hunter gatherers. As with children you start with simple stories and then let them develop over time. To me the Bible appears to be a spiritual journey about a developing relationship with God. Why could God have not revealed evolution to Darwin, or general relativity to Einstein? Is science not helping believers to understand the wonder of his creation?

Just my musings on the subject.

[John Scopes]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

We already understand the mechanism which allows evolution to take place, it is called DNA and is present in all living creatures and we learnt to manipulate it to create new strains of crops and genetically modified animals for research purposes. Evolution tries to explain how over long periods of time random variations in a species’ DNA can cause large changes in a species until it reaches a point that we can classified the evolved organism as a new species.

The theory of evolution is a component part of a scientific model that tries to explain every aspect of the universe that we live in. It has been hugely successful in allowing humans to interact with their environment. The computers that you all use are only possible because of an understanding of quantum physics (science of the very small) whilst the GPS satellites that direct your cars rely on Einstein’s theory of relativity (science of the very large). The one thing that science does not need is magic or the intervention of a supernatural being to work.

I am an atheist, but if there is a god then he has created a world that is stable, predictable, and measurable. All that science is doing is trying to understand God's creation. What is so terrible to say that humans evolved from primates? If there is a god and he is omnipotent then he must have know that firing off the big bang would have lead to the creation 15 billion years later of humans, which if that was what he planned then he has achieved it.

The problem with evolution is that it appears to contradict a few verses in the bible (I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong!). Why is this a problem? The way I see it is that God is not going to try and explain a complex scientific theory to a group of bronze age hunter gatherers. As with children you start with simple stories and then let them develop over time. To me the Bible appears to be a spiritual journey about a developing relationship with God. Why could God have not revealed evolution to Darwin, or general relativity to Einstein? Is science not helping believers to understand the wonder of his creation?

Just my musings on the subject.

You are making a noble effort but if you spend time in this place you will learn the meaning if the phrase "Pissing into the wind".

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]The problem with evolution is that it appears to contradict a few verses in the bible (I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong!). Why is this a problem? The way I see it is that God is not going to try and explain a complex scientific theory to a group of bronze age hunter gatherers. As with children you start with simple stories and then let them develop over time. To me the Bible appears to be a spiritual journey about a developing relationship with God. Why could God have not revealed evolution to Darwin, or general relativity to Einstein? Is science not helping believers to understand the wonder of his creation?

Just my musings on the subject.

Evolution has a big contradiction with the reveled TRUTH of the Bible; for one thing evolution claims man came from MUD. This is a patent lie!

This what really happened

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

We came form dust, not mud. If science can't get that right how can we trust anything else science says?

[True Disciple]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

We already understand the mechanism which allows evolution to take place, it is called DNA and is present in all living creatures and we learnt to manipulate it to create new strains of crops and genetically modified animals for research purposes. Evolution tries to explain how over long periods of time random variations in a species’ DNA can cause large changes in a species until it reaches a point that we can classified the evolved organism as a new species.

First of all, your username translates to the Dutch word for "scrotum." Is that intentional?

Secondly, being Christians, we are very interested in our fellow man. This is why it is a forum rule that people introduce themselves in the Introduction section. Kindly tell something about yourself, your church, your Pastor and your favorite Bible Verse here.

Thirdly, the science of genetics is grossly mistaken. I've explained this in my essay on major mistakes in science here.

The theory of evolution is a component part of a scientific model that tries to explain every aspect of the universe that we live in. It has been hugely successful in allowing humans to interact with their environment. The computers that you all use are only possible because of an understanding of quantum physics (science of the very small) whilst the GPS satellites that direct your cars rely on Einstein’s theory of relativity (science of the very large). The one thing that science does not need is magic or the intervention of a supernatural being to work.

We are not saying all of science is wrong, of course. Some subareas are only partly wrong.

And by the way, I do not use GPS. GPS presupposes a round earth, while every True Christian™ knows the Earth is flat (again, I refer gladly to my essay). Because of this error, this system will inevitably lead me to the wrong place, so I never bothered to try it.

I am an atheist, but if there is a god then he has created a world that is stable, predictable, and measurable.

Nonsense. God created a world that is grand, mysterious, wonderful and far beyond the limits of understanding. Such is the grandeur of creation.
Science tries to degrade it to the level of human understanding, which is an insult to the Great Craftsmanship of God, and therefore blasphemy.

All that science is doing is trying to understand God's creation. What is so terrible to say that humans evolved from primates?

Don't you realize that? It contradicts God's Word, so it calls Him a liar. In addition, the Bible teaches we were Created in God's Image. Claiming we we descended from monkeys equals calling God a monkey. Again, this is blasphemy.

If there is a god and he is omnipotent then he must have know that firing off the big bang would have lead to the creation 15 billion years later of humans, which if that was what he planned then he has achieved it.

If there is a god and He is omnipotent, than He certainly wouldn't need 13 billion years before finally succeeding in Creating Man.

The problem with evolution is that it appears to contradict a few verses in the bible (I am sure you will correct me if I am wrong!). Why is this a problem? The way I see it is that God is not going to try and explain a complex scientific theory to a group of bronze age hunter gatherers. As with children you start with simple stories and then let them develop over time. To me the Bible appears to be a spiritual journey about a developing relationship with God. Why could God have not revealed evolution to Darwin, or general relativity to Einstein? Is science not helping believers to understand the wonder of his creation?

Many of these subjects are taught to teenagers today. "First you were monkeys, then you were humans" doesn't exactly require much intellectual capacities to grasp. Are you saying that Moses was dumber than the average teenager?

Just my musings on the subject.

And that is exactly the problem. Evilutionists never progress beyong simple musings: "If that happened, then this could have happened like that, and that could have happened like this, if that happened, of course, which might have resulted then and from that."

Where are the hard facts, like those found in the Holy Bible?

[balzac]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

First of all, your username translates to the Dutch word for "scrotum." Is that intentional?

Secondly, being Christians, we are very interested in our fellow man. This is why it is a forum rule that people introduce themselves in the Introduction section. Kindly tell something about yourself, your church, your Pastor and your favorite Bible Verse here.

Thanks for the info about my username, I never knew it was the Dutch word for "scrotum! My username is in fact taken from the French writer Honoré de Balzac.

As to about myself, I am an atheist, but culturally christian living in London.

Thirdly, the science of genetics is grossly mistaken. I've explained this in my essay on major mistakes in science here.

Thank you for pointing me to this which I found very interesting. I have to say that our views on science are so diagramatically opposed that trying to argue them I think will be fruitless for both of us. Your reply did however raise a few points that I wanted to comment on.

Nonsense. God created a world that is grand, mysterious, wonderful and far beyond the limits of understanding. Such is the grandeur of creation.
Science tries to degrade it to the level of human understanding, which is an insult to the Great Craftsmanship of God, and therefore blasphemy.

If science is sinful, then should you be using the products of this science in your day to day life? I am thinking of the computer in this instance. BTW, this is not meant as an attack in your morals, merely an attempt to unstand them.

If there is a god and He is omnipotent

, than He certainly wouldn't need 13 billion years before finally succeeding in Creating Man.

If there is a God would not 13 Billion years be as a blink of an eye to him?

Many of these subjects are taught to teenagers today. "First you were monkeys, then you were humans" doesn't exactly require much intellectual capacities to grasp. Are you saying that Moses was dumber than the average teenager?

He lived in a technologically more primitive world but he was at the very pinnacle of his civilisation. And I don't think that places him below the great mass of humanity today. Teenagers in school are simply fed ideas, Moses created ideas which are still relavent to today and that makes him a great man.

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And that is exactly the problem. Evilutionists never progress beyong simple musings: "If that happened, then this could have happened like that, and that could have happened like this, if that happened, of course, which might have resulted then and from that."

Where are the hard facts, like those found in the Holy Bible?
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They are not facts in the sense that the scientic method would regard as a fact.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Thanks for the info about my username, I never knew it was the Dutch word for "scrotum! My username is in fact taken from the French writer Honoré de Balzac.

Friend,
Welcome to the forum but I am finding your explanation that your name doesn't mean "scrotum" a bit to much to swallow. But I will not rush to judgment and pray your future conduct is proper for a forum like Landover Baptist. I would hate to think you see this forum as a place to make a few cheep jokes.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

If there is a God would not 13 Billion years be as a blink of an eye to him?

Yes. But I assure you once both of us are death and I am in Heaven and you are in Hell, 13 billion years will seem like an eternity to you. I intend to visit you in 13 billion years to remind you of this nice conversation we are having here. I will laugh at your ignorance that day while Satan is sodomizing you once more in the fires of Hell.

[True Disciple]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Thanks for the info about my username, I never knew it was the Dutch word for "scrotum! My username is in fact taken from the French writer Honoré de Balzac.

Oh. Alright. Never knew the French honored scrotums...

As to about myself, I am an atheist, but culturally christian living in London.

As to about myself, I am an atheist, but culturally christian living in London.

Yes, I had to read this twice. Culturally, you are a Christian? That is one of the least sensible things I've read in a while. You go to Church every Sunday, but you do not believe in God? Is that even supposed to make sense?

Thank you for pointing me to this which I found very interesting. I have to say that our views on science are so diagramatically opposed that trying to argue them I think will be fruitless for both of us.

It's not a shame to have your worldviews completely shattered by Christian, Creation-Scientific Truth, you know. You can just post there that you can't object to my points. Why don't you just accept the Truth and Jesus and become a True Christian(tm)?

If science is sinful, then should you be using the products of this science in your day to day life? I am thinking of the computer in this instance. BTW, this is not meant as an attack in your morals, merely an attempt to unstand them.

That is no problem, of course. The Bible teaches the following about using the goods of heathens:

Luke 16:9-12:
And I say unto you, Make to yourselves friends of the mammon of unrighteousness; that, when ye fail, they may receive you into everlasting habitations.
He that is faithful in that which is least is faithful also in much: and he that is unjust in the least is unjust also in much. If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?
And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?

If there is a God would not 13 Billion years be as a blink of an eye to him?

Of course. Still, it would be 13 billion pointless years. That just wouldn't make sense.

He lived in a technologically more primitive world but he was at the very pinnacle of his civilisation. And I don't think that places him below the great mass of humanity today. Teenagers in school are simply fed ideas, Moses created ideas which are still relavent to today and that makes him a great man.

So you agree with me that he was completely able to grasp the concept of evolution?

They are not facts in the sense that the scientic method would regard as a fact.

No, of course not. The religion of science never uses the Bible, because it is not a part of their religion. However, the Bible is written by God, but the Holy Books of Science (Principia, Origin of Species, etc.) are written by man. Who would you trust, God or man?

[tommi 94]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

and this is why you are ignorant, monkeys, they have the same ancestor as us, we didnt evolve form monkeys, we evolved from the same ancestor monkeys evolved from, so thats why monkeys evolved differently and why they are not evolving into humans. i really cant be bothered to answere any of the oher questions partially becaiuse i didnt read any of them. basically we all evolved from the same ancestoria race of organisms and then with natural selection all the species where created and now here we are.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

and this is why you are ignorant, monkeys, they have the same ancestor as us, we didnt evolve form monkeys, we evolved from the same ancestor monkeys evolved from, so thats why monkeys evolved differently and why they are not evolving into humans. i really cant be bothered to answere any of the oher questions partially becaiuse i didnt read any of them. basically we all evolved from the same ancestoria race of organisms and then with natural selection all the species where created and now here we are.

So basically you are basing your post on what? You have not studied any thing to formulate an opinion on.
Are you just shooting from the hip? Pick up a KJV1611 dummy and read it.

[Logan]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

and this is why you are ignorant, monkeys, they have the same ancestor as us, we didnt evolve form monkeys, we evolved from the same ancestor monkeys evolved from, so thats why monkeys evolved differently and why they are not evolving into humans. i really cant be bothered to answere any of the oher questions partially becaiuse i didnt read any of them. basically we all evolved from the same ancestoria race of organisms and then with natural selection all the species where created and now here we are.

Stop moving the goal posts, it's no wonder you can't win an argument.

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Stop moving the goal posts, it's no wonder you can't win an argument.

Yes, suddenly we aren't monkeys, we just share a common ancestor with them, oh that somehow can't do archeology on the Garden of Eden, the list goes on.

Science is what ever the Darwinist can come up with to fit what ever evidence he just found. <- and you can quote that for the TRUTH.

[James Dewitt]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

Originally Posted by tommi 94
and this is why you are ignorant, monkeys, they have the same ancestor as us, we didnt evolve form monkeys, we evolved from the same ancestor monkeys evolved from, so thats why monkeys evolved differently and why they are not evolving into humans. i really cant be bothered to answere any of the oher questions partially becaiuse i didnt read any of them. basically we all evolved from the same ancestoria race of organisms and then with natural selection all the species where created and now here we are.

I liked the fact that the dummy did not read anything, he could not be bothered......LOL

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Questions that evolutionist can’t answer

basically we all evolved from the same ancestoria race of organisms and then with natural selection all the species where created and now here we are.

I see. So your entire philosophy of being can be summed up in one short sentence. Fascinating. Truly impressive. Are you a university professor, by any chance?