[James Hutchins]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

Coutresy of Brother Bathfire and His visit at the Creationist University last summer

[Prayer Warrior]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

Prayer Warrior is just a forum member, not a member of Landover Baptist Church or a resident of Freehold. The fact that he is undereducated in the ways of scientheism would only come as a surprise to a foolish, fencehumping agnostic such as yourself.

Coutresy of Brother Bathfire and His visit at the Creationist University last summer

My mistake, thank you for clearing this up for me. It is difficult for even me to get an education in true science with all of the lies surrounding how the Earth works. I'll be sure to remember this for future reference.

The pivot reference came from one of your own followers saying that is how the sun acts. This came about when I challenged him to take a light and revolve it around a plate, the lift would not act as with our time zones.

I believe I just caught you guys in your own contradictory acts, hahahahaha.

To Averagejoe: Billy Bob Jenkins is correct in saying that I haven't been formally educated in creation science yet. I'll try to answer questions you have with the limited knowledge that I have, but in the event my answer is different than that of a True Christian™, you should go with that True Christian's™ answer.

Even so, I think the general point I was trying to make was similar. The sun resolves around the Earth spreads light on particular areas. The fact that you would cling onto something small like whether or not pivoting is involved and make that the only point of your statement while ignoring everything else shows me your clear bias toward Round Earth science.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

Coutresy of Brother Bathfire and His visit at the Creationist University last summer

Thank you brother, that proves my point exactly.

My mistake, thank you for clearing this up for me. It is difficult for even me to get an education in true science with all of the lies surrounding how the Earth works. I'll be sure to remember this for future reference.

To Averagejoe: Billy Bob Jenkins is correct in saying that I haven't been formally educated in creation science yet. I'll try to answer questions you have with the limited knowledge that I have, but in the event my answer is different than that of a True Christian™, you should go with that True Christian's™ answer.

Even so, I think the general point I was trying to make was similar. The sun resolves around the Earth spreads light on particular areas. The fact that you would cling onto something small like whether or not pivoting is involved and make that the only point of your statement while ignoring everything else shows me your clear bias toward Round Earth science.

Do not fret, friend. We were not meant to understand things that aren't in the Bible. It is amazing that we know as much as we do.

You are also right about the obvious bias portrayed by our damned friend. How does he ever hope to escape the flames of Hell if he scurries under the baseboards like a cockroach every time the light of Jesus appears?

[dr wayne kerr]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

k.

Speaketh the Our Lords Language (American)

k is clearly not a word,
do you stutter?

[Nerddy]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

Okey.

[Cathy B.]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

Their motivation is very simple: Cold hard cash. Organizations like NASA steal billions of dollars every year from hard working Americans promoting the idea that there is a Round Earth, and spending money on “rockets”, “scientists” and “research”, yet all they have to show for their efforts are a few testimonials from the people who are on NASA’s payroll.

Thank you for this informative research. As a teacher of impressionable children, it is my responsibility to prepare them for life. As a Christian teacher, part of that responsibility is to prepare them for the lies of Satan. This is very helpful and with your permission, I would like to develop a lesson plan for my classroom based on this.

[Prayer Warrior]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

Thank you for this informative research. As a teacher of impressionable children, it is my responsibility to prepare them for life. As a Christian teacher, part of that responsibility is to prepare them for the lies of Satan. This is very helpful and with your permission, I would like to develop a lesson plan for my classroom based on this.

That would be great. I encourage you to teach your students this information. The more people who are informed about the lies of NASA and their inherit bias the better. This especially applies to our impressionable children who are often caught up in public school's secular lies, and are never able to recover.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

The more astute among you will have noticed that, as a direct result of his dedication to a true understanding of the impenetrable mysteries of God's creation, Prayer Warrior is now a True Christian. Look on his example of how to take on the word of the Lord and win.

God's word is not something to just pick the bits that don't cause arguments with the godless from. God's word is perfect and totally accurate.

GLORY

[usizss]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

Round Earth is a cock and bull story!

[Albert The Lunkhead (On Moderation)]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

Round Earth is a cock and bull story!

And why is that?

[Prayer Warrior]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

And why is that?

The Bible says the world is flat, so it is flat. While not the vocabulary I would use, usizss is correct in that any information advocating a Round Earth "is a cock and bull story!"

Jeremiah 16:19:
O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

According to Jeremiah 16:19, the earth has ends. There is no way a spherical earth could have ends, and therefore the earth must be flat. The Book of Revelation tells a similar story:

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

A spherical earth cannot have corners, it is scientifically impossible. The only logical explanation is that the earth is flat. Checkmate atheists!

Isaiah 40:22:
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in

[Albert The Lunkhead (On Moderation)]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

However, in actuality, if these ships are viewed through a telescope, people can see these “sunken” ships restored!

That's incorrect.

Scientists put full faith in these telescopes as “proof” that stars are actually trillions of miles away

They are.

Of course telescopes made by secular scientists are designed to alter reality and fool True Christians™!

We don't waste our time with you people.

Think about it, if the Earth was round like Round Earthers claim, why aren't people below the equator falling off?

Gravity.

Try getting a heavy object, such as a stone, or a clump of dirt, and suspend it up in mid air, such as through a string, or by placing it on a pedestal, or by simply holding it up. Next place a lighter object such as a smaller rock or a feather on the bottom half of the heavy object. As you can clearly see, the lighter object simply falls to the floor.

Yes, because of Earth gravity.

Furthermore, we can clearly see things like sparks, helium balloons, smoke, etc. going up!

Balloons - they don't fall because there is another force acting on them - buoyant force from air pressure.

Smoke - Smoke consists of particles of ash carried on the hot air. Since hot air is less dense than cold air, it rises as it is displaced.

It is amazing how scientists are constantly changing their stories, and can never get anything straight.

Science proof comes from the mathematics and logic equations. Science is to find new knowledge, and give explanations for natural phenomenons in a rational and logical manner that other people can do as well.

True Christians™ on the other hand will not be influenced by demonic principles like "changing your beliefs over time" or based on so called "evidence" since their beliefs are already perfect.

You don't have any evidence for your religion. Theoretically, you really are an atheist, anyway.

Why can't scientists keep their "theories" straight"?

Theories are the most important thing in science. Theories to a scientist means explanation, and these a logical constructs of facts, tested hypotheses, law etc. All these are taken together and are put into a logical fashions helps us understand it. A scientific theory has been tested extensively and found to be true in all tests. It's the closest thing to proof that exists in the real world.

Organizations like NASA steal billions of dollars every year from hard working Americans promoting the idea that there is a Round Earth

It is. You have to be an idiot to believe not.

And spending money on “rockets”, “scientists” and “research”, yet all they have to show for their efforts are a few testimonials from the people who are on NASA’s payroll.

No. What about all the theories it has created. The understanding of our Universe. The search for life. The understanding of our position in this Universe. Have a better understand of how we got here etc. etc.

They refuse to allow anyone else up in their rocket ships, other than people who are on NASA’s payroll.

Well, that's logic, isn't it? You wouldn't allow a member of the public to fly an civil airplane and not the qualified pilot how is employed in the airline.

I should also point out that Obama is on record stating he wants to increase funding to scientific programs!

I love him!

What more evidence do you need that NASA is nothing more than a corrupt government conspiracy bent on stealing our funds?

A large number because you haven't proven this.

What is NASA doing with all those billions of dollars stolen from tax payers!?

Aeronautics
Human Exploration and Operations
Science
Space Technology

The other so called "evidence" they provide include some sketchy photographs and videos that could have been made by any run of the mill HELLY-wood director. It’s been long known that HELLY-wood has been working with Satan for years, so no surprises here.

And your evidence for this. Oh, wait, none.

Furthermore, this is something that big secularists are trying to sneak into our schools to chip away at our religious values!

Yes, because science is more important than religion.

No doubt they use it to fund hoaxing (e.g. moon landings, satellites and space stations) and gay orgies.

NASA hoaxing Moon landing, satellites and the Space Stations? Where have you go you're evidence to justify this?

The Bible says the world is flat, so it is flat.

There's more evidence of the Earth being Round, than it being flat.

[Prayer Warrior]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

That's incorrect.

They are.

How would you know? Have you visited any stars? Do you have a telescope? Have you visited every person and done a survey and found out that no one in the entire world has seen a ship restored?

We don't waste our time with you people.

As always, elitists scientists refusing to have legitimate debates with anyone who disagrees with their worldview. Is it really a surprise that they believe nonsense about evolution and a round Earth when they don't even take the time to analyze opposing views?

Gravity.



Yes, because of Earth gravity.

Take a clump of Earth, suspend it in midair. Does it have gravity? Is it drawing objects toward it? Either Earth has gravity or it doesn't. Maybe since everything falls down regardless of what sort of content you suspend in midair (rocks, earth, dirt) you should consider the alternative of intelligent falling.

Balloons - they don't fall because there is another force acting on them - buoyant force from air pressure.

Smoke - Smoke consists of particles of ash carried on the hot air. Since hot air is less dense than cold air, it rises as it is displaced.

Suddenly air carries objects around now? Why aren't we all being carried away like ashes or balloons are? I thought gravity was supposed to pull in everything, and now it doesn't apply to air, or air pressure? You can even see balloons rise in doors, such as in crowded malls, where it isn't windy at all.

So much for your "air pressure" theory.

Science proof comes from the mathematics and logic equations. Science is to find new knowledge, and give explanations for natural phenomenons in a rational and logical manner that other people can do as well.

You don't have any evidence for your religion. Theoretically, you really are an atheist, anyway.

We have evidence, it is called the Holy Bible.

Maybe instead of getting your information from liberally biased god hating scientists you should get your information from God next time.

Theories are the most important thing in science. Theories to a scientist means explanation, and these a logical constructs of facts, tested hypotheses, law etc. All these are taken together and are put into a logical fashions helps us understand it. A scientific theory has been tested extensively and found to be true in all tests. It's the closest thing to proof that exists in the real world.

Except for the Holy Bible.

Who do you think we should believe, the creator of the universe, or scientists who don't even believe in God?

It is. You have to be an idiot to believe not.

For thousands of years, the majority of people believed in a flat Earth, and everyone of them is an idiot? If the world was round, then why does the Bible talk about corners of the world? Where are the "corners" in a round Earth?

Revelation 7:1:
And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

No. What about all the theories it has created. The understanding of our Universe. The search for life. The understanding of our position in this Universe. Have a better understand of how we got here etc. etc.

It took them billions of dollars to figure out the Universe, life, our position and the universe, and how we got here? They could have saved the tax payers several billion dollars by picking up a Bible instead.

Well, that's logic, isn't it? You wouldn't allow a member of the public to fly an civil airplane and not the qualified pilot how is employed in the airline.

Who said anything about flying it? I said go on it. For a nominal fee, anyone can ride in an airplane, yet NASA refuses to allow any members of the public onto their spaceships, despite being funded by the public.

A large number because you haven't proven this.

I already explained it. Perhaps my opening post was too complicated for you. God says the world it is flat, so it is flat. It is that simple.

And your evidence for this. Oh, wait, none.

Disney's Frankenweenie turns our children into Satanists and then electrocutes them!

Disney's Frankenweenie turns our children into Satanists and then electrocutes them!


NEW BATMAN MOVIE INSPIRES MASS MURDER!!!

Yes, because science is more important than religion.

Science isn't going to save you from burning in a lake of fire for all of eternity.

NASA hoaxing Moon landing, satellites and the Space Stations? Where have you go you're evidence to justify this?

Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

There's more evidence of the Earth being Round, than it being flat.

It is about quality, not quantity. I'm sure you can fine thousands of peaces of forged, falsified, and worthless evidence. When you find evidence from God or the Holy Bible that shows the world is Round, let me know.

[Albert The Lunkhead (On Moderation)]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

How would you know? Have you visited any stars? Do you have a telescope? Have you visited every person and done a survey and found out that no one in the entire world has seen a ship restored?

We measure using parallax, and looking at the star's brightness.

As always, elitists scientists refusing to have legitimate debates with anyone who disagrees with their worldview. Is it really a surprise that they believe nonsense about evolution and a round Earth when they don't even take the time to analyze opposing views?

We do analyse your views, and there is no evidence to support it. You're ignoring our views and we're ignoring yours.

Take a clump of Earth, suspend it in midair. Does it have gravity? Is it drawing objects toward it? Either Earth has gravity or it doesn't. Maybe since everything falls down regardless of what sort of content you suspend in midair (rocks, earth, dirt)

Earth does have gravity. Earth mass is much more than a clump of dirt.

you should consider the alternative of intelligent falling.

Thank you for giving me another thread for me type on.

Suddenly air carries objects around now? Why aren't we all being carried away like ashes or balloons are? I thought gravity was supposed to pull in everything, and now it doesn't apply to air, or air pressure? You can even see balloons rise in doors, such as in crowded malls, where it isn't windy at all.

Of course air is affect by gravity - that's what's keeping it wrapped round the Earth.

Anything that has a mass will be attracted to anything else that has mass. F = (m1 x m2)/d^2

We have evidence, it is called the Holy Bible.

Where anyone could have wrote it.

Maybe instead of getting your information from liberally biased god hating scientists you should get your information from God next time.

They don't hate God. They just want truth in the universe where it can be supported by positive evidence.

Who do you think we should believe, the creator of the universe, or scientists who don't even believe in God?

You should believe in anything. Just try and be rational.

For thousands of years, the majority of people believed in a flat Earth, and everyone of them is an idiot?

There are not idiot. They didn't understand the world, then. I'm calling you idiot in today's time when we have a much more better understand of the universe, and we have positive evidence for our support.

If the world was round, then why does the Bible talk about corners of the world? Where are the "corners" in a round Earth?

This is good evidence to support the saying men created it, and not an intelligent design. Like I said above, people thousands of years thought the Earth was flat, and that is what they wrote in the Bible. Either that, or your God is dumb.

It took them billions of dollars to figure out the Universe, life, our position and the universe, and how we got here?

Yes.

Who said anything about flying it? I said go on it. For a nominal fee, anyone can ride in an airplane, yet NASA refuses to allow any members of the public onto their spaceships, despite being funded by the public.

God says the world it is flat, so it is flat. It is that simple.

If you don't have a brain, yes.

Science isn't going to save you from burning in a lake of fire for all of eternity.

You never know - It might.

Curiosity Mars "landing" BIGGEST NASA HOAX EVER!!!

I've already looked at this. I'm still asking for positive evidence.

When you find evidence from God...

Prove me evidence of God.

[Eddie James]

Re: The Round Earth Conspiracy

Flat Earthers being shut out:

Critics have been quick to question the scientific competence, even sanity of people suggesting the possibility of a Flat Earth. They dismiss, and even ridicule people who so much as suggest the possibility of a flat earth. These critics claim that because Flat Earth scientists do not have works published in peer reviewed journals, that it is not legitimate and should be disregarded. Yet scientific peer reviewed data clearly exists and is disregarded:

Improbable Research

3 Experiments You Can Do At Home that PROVE THE EARTH IS FLAT! - The Landover Baptist Church Forum

Challenge the Round Earth Model

These critics claim that, in order for a Flat Earth, it must pass the review of non-flat Earth (aka. Round Earth) scientists.

There is a shocking double standard in this line of reasoning. If Flat Earth scientists are expected to have their work approved by Round Earth scientists, then why aren’t Round Earth Scientists expected to have their work approved by Flat Earth Scientists? Aren’t the peers who review information regarding a Round Earth also Round Earth Scientists? Doesn’t this fact prove the illegitimacy and inherent bias of their research?

There are countless people who are advocating the belief in a Flat Earth. When is the last time you saw a highly publicized, legitimate debate regarding whether or not the Earth was flat or round? My guess is “never”.

Many people have even lost their jobs, and lost credibility among the elitists scientific community simply for daring to question the theories regarding a Round Earth. You have to ask yourself:

“Why are Round Earthers going to such great lengths in order to avoid having legitimate debates with Flat Earthers? If they are so confident in their theories, why don’t they try to back them up?”

Evidence of a Flat Earth:

The sinking ship effect:

When a ship travels far enough into the distance, it becomes smaller and smaller, until eventually it “vanishes”, this is known as the “vanishing point”. The commonly held belief is that these ships have “sunken” over the horizon of the curved Earth, making them no longer visible at your current location.



However, in actuality, if these ships are viewed through a telescope, people can see these “sunken” ships restored! It is simply of the ship being too far away to see. Scientists put full faith in these telescopes as “proof” that stars are actually trillions of miles away, and even made up some term called “light year”, yet they completely ignore the evidence of telescopes when it conflicts with their pre-conceived theories and beliefs.

Here is an explanation from a courageous priest who looked through Galileo’s (The father of this demonic and sinful theory. No doubt influenced by Satan himself) telescope:



Even Galileo himself recanted his blasphemous theories when presented with “compelling evidence” from the Church! Why would anyone still believe him?
What happened to Godly priests like this one? Of course telescopes made by secular scientists are designed to alter reality and fool True Christians™! I guess they just forgot to design their telescopes to alter reality when looking into the ocean!

No one falling off the Earth

Credit to Rev. Jim Osborne for discovering this. I would like to say that I have tested his experiments out for myself and I can confirm that they are accurate and work as he described. Think about it, if the Earth was round like Round Earthers claim, why aren't people below the equator falling off?


If the world was flat however, it would make perfect sense.


Many Round Earthers try to rationalize this inconsistency by stating that there is something called "gravity" that pulls objects of smaller mass towards ones of greater mass. You can replicate this yourself. Try getting a heavy object, such as a stone, or a clump of dirt, and suspend it up in mid air, such as through a string, or by placing it on a pedestal, or by simply holding it up. Next place a lighter object such as a smaller rock or a feather on the bottom half of the heavy object. As you can clearly see, the lighter object simply falls to the floor.

Furthermore, we can clearly see things like sparks, helium balloons, smoke, etc. going up!

It is amazing how scientists are constantly changing their stories, and can never get anything straight. They are trying to get Christians to do the same! True Christians™ on the other hand will not be influenced by demonic principles like "changing your beliefs over time" or based on so called "evidence" since their beliefs are already perfect.

Why can't scientists keep their "theories" straight"?

Their motivation:

Their motivation is very simple: Cold hard cash. Organizations like NASA steal billions of dollars every year from hard working Americans promoting the idea that there is a Round Earth, and spending money on “rockets”, “scientists” and “research”, yet all they have to show for their efforts are a few testimonials from the people who are on NASA’s payroll. They refuse to allow anyone else up in their rocket ships, other than people who are on NASA’s payroll. I should also point out that Obama is on record stating he wants to increase funding to scientific programs! What more evidence do you need that NASA is nothing more than a corrupt government conspiracy bent on stealing our funds?

True Christian™ have to ask themselves: "What is NASA doing with all those billions of dollars stolen from tax payers!?”

The other so called "evidence" they provide include some sketchy photographs and videos that could have been made by any run of the mill HELLY-wood director. It’s been long known that HELLY-wood has been working with Satan for years, so no surprises here. I’m shocked at the people who think these photographs and videos are evidence of anything, any more than a few DVDs from Disney is evidence of blue genies, magical flying carpets, or other nonsense.

Furthermore, this is something that big secularists are trying to sneak into our schools to chip away at our religious values! Once they establish that the Bible is no longer the literal and inherit word of God, everything is fair game! It won’t be long before they’re trying to have murder, stealing, and sodo-rape legalized! Please warn as many people as you can about the Round Earth conspiracy!

Easily explained, although I won't wast my time on the whole lot
If the earth is flat explain the Coriolis effect, viewable when unplugging a sink?
All gasses come under the laws of gravity, they go up because they're lighter than the nitrogen and oxygen here at the surface. Sparks and smoke go up due to the heat they produce, which displaces atoms, allowing the cooler gasses above to sink, the smoke fills the void, like a vacuum and rises, it's called convection, and it's very simple science.