[Roberta]

Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians

This must be the newest LDS ploy. Doing your mission over the internets.

For your own information, the two kids who showed up at my place last week couldn't contain their lustful urgings. One of them actually attempted to obscure his engorgement by resettling the Book of Mormon over his crotch!

Too funny, I decided to flash them and they scurried like the folks from Nauvoo. I figured they had seen tatas before--afterall, Utah is the biggest porn subscribing state in the US.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/16056...f_america.html

[cody johnson]

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Why thank you, dear.



Interestingly, the same thing happens to other people when finding out if the real Christian scriptures are true. Your testimony of such a calming feeling isn't unique to Mormonism, so I can't help but wonder if it was a figment of your imagination. How do you know it's not? Have you tried praying to Jesus of the Holy Bible? If you have a truly open heart He will reveal to you that He is part of the Holy Trinity, not a "spirit brother" to Lucifer or anyone else, there is no "Heavenly Mother," and that people don't become reincarnated as gods and goddesses after death. Besides, who wants to work for eternity when they can sing the praises of God for ever and ever!

I agree that the the feelings I received from the Holy Ghost are not unique to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I truly believe you too have felt the Holy Ghost in your life as well since I can tell that you are a good Christian from your posts I believe that we are all children of our Heavenly Father. Acts 17:29. Thus, our Heavenly Father loves each of us and will guide us towards truth to help us return to him.

How do I know it wasn't a figment of my imagination? I can't prove it, but I feel it. Just like I can't see the wind, I sure enough feel its soft breath on my face and know its real. Further, I feel it quite often as I study the scriptures and get on my knees every day in prayer.

Maybe I should clarify myself a bit. We don't believe that other religions are evil, we simply believe that the fullness of the gospel has been restored once again as it was originally organized by Christ himself during his ministry on earth. We don't believe we are fixing anything, but rather completing something. As the former Prophet stated before his death regarding converts to our religion - he told them to bring all their good with them.

I read the Holy Bible (KJV) just as much as I read the Book of Mormon. I truly believe them to be companions which both teach of Jesus Christ and Gods dealings with the people on the American continent at the time.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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I agree that the the feelings I received from the Holy Ghost are not unique to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I truly believe you too have felt the Holy Ghost in your life as well since I can tell that you are a good Christian from your posts I believe that we are all children of our Heavenly Father. Acts 17:29. Thus, our Heavenly Father loves each of us and will guide us towards truth to help us return to him.

How do I know it wasn't a figment of my imagination? I can't prove it, but I feel it. Just like I can't see the wind, I sure enough feel its soft breath on my face and know its real. Further, I feel it quite often as I study the scriptures and get on my knees every day in prayer.

Maybe I should clarify myself a bit. We don't believe that other religions are evil, we simply believe that the fullness of the gospel has been restored once again as it was originally organized by Christ himself during his ministry on earth. We don't believe we are fixing anything, but rather completing something. As the former Prophet stated before his death regarding converts to our religion - he told them to bring all their good with them.

I read the Holy Bible (KJV) just as much as I read the Book of Mormon. I truly believe them to be companions which both teach of Jesus Christ and Gods dealings with the people on the American continent at the time.

Deuteronomy 12:32

King James Version (KJV)

32What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.


Proverbs 30:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

I find it hard to believe that you have read the Bible, believe it, and persist in following the book of moron, when the Bible clearly forbids adding to scripture. How do you justify this abominable crime against God? Do you think He is unfair to you? Does He not coddle you enough?

[cody johnson]

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This must be the newest LDS ploy. Doing your mission over the internets.

For your own information, the two kids who showed up at my place last week couldn't contain their lustful urgings. One of them actually attempted to obscure his engorgement by resettling the Book of Mormon over his crotch!

Too funny, I decided to flash them and they scurried like the folks from Nauvoo. I figured they had seen tatas before--afterall, Utah is the biggest porn subscribing state in the US.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/16056...f_america.html

Please remember, your body is a temple and if this story is true, I'm happy to hear the missionaries fled such a situation. 1 Corinthians 6:18-19.

Please also remember that you are literally a daughter of God. You need to treat yourself as such - for you are royalty. Just as I want my daughters to stay pure, I know our Father in Heaven expects the same from you. You can do it. I promise you that you deserve better than that kind of life.

[cody johnson]

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I find it hard to believe that you have read the Bible, believe it, and persist in following the book of moron, when the Bible clearly forbids adding to scripture. How do you justify this abominable crime against God? Do you think He is unfair to you? Does He not coddle you enough?

Hello,

I'm hoping that we can keep a civil tone and speak of our beliefs without condescension.

I agree that no one is supposed to add to the gospel as it was originally taught. However, if one was to interpret said scriptures to mean that no further revelation nor scriptures could ever come to pass, then wouldn't the scripture from the old testament mean that the new testament is void since no more prophets could write holy scripture? Further, you do realize that the bible was not compiled at the time these scriptures were being written and thus they do not refer to adding or subtracting from the "Bible" since the Bible as a book did not yet exist. Finally, what of the many scriptural books that are mentioned in the Bible itself - that are not contained in the Bible - are they now void since a group of men hundreds of years later didn't add them into the compilation of the Bible?

This is a key and distinguishing difference between my faith and others. We believe in continued revelation. We believe that God is the same yesterday, today and forever and once again uses a prophet to guide us, His children. Amos 3:7.

The Book of Mormon does not add to the gospel principles, it simply is a companion - another testament of Jesus Christ that teaches the same things. If you take a look at an actual Book of Mormon, you'll notice the footnotes at the bottom of each page with many, many, references to the Bible on every page.

Anything we believe that is not commonly practiced now, is not an addition, but rather a restoration of what was originally taught.

What if what I was saying was true? What if God once again speaks to us through living prophets just as he did for thousands of years in the Bible? What if God still lives and speaks? What would be more important to find out? I promise that anyone can know what I know to be true, just go to mormon.org to find out more - and then pray about it with real intent. Then act on it.

Sorry for ending the conversation here, but I've gotta run. I'll see if I can log on again later if anyone has any more questions.

Thank you all for your civility. I hope we understand each other better now

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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Hello,

I'm hoping that we can keep a civil tone and speak of our beliefs without condescension.

I agree that no one is supposed to add to the gospel as it was originally taught. However, if one was to interpret said scriptures to mean that no further revelation nor scriptures could ever come to pass, then wouldn't the scripture from the old testament mean that the new testament is void since no more prophets could write holy scripture? Further, you do realize that the bible was not compiled at the time these scriptures were being written and thus they do not refer to adding or subtracting from the "Bible" since the Bible as a book did not yet exist. Finally, what of the many scriptural books that are mentioned in the Bible itself - that are not contained in the Bible - are they now void since a group of men hundreds of years later didn't add them into the compilation of the Bible?

This is a key and distinguishing difference between my faith and others. We believe in continued revelation. We believe that God is the same yesterday, today and forever and once again uses a prophet to guide us, His children. Amos 3:7.

The Book of Mormon does not add to the gospel principles, it simply is a companion - another testament of Jesus Christ that teaches the same things. If you take a look at an actual Book of Mormon, you'll notice the footnotes at the bottom of each page with many, many, references to the Bible on every page.

Anything we believe that is not commonly practiced now, is not an addition, but rather a restoration of what was originally taught.

What if what I was saying was true? What if God once again speaks to us through living prophets just as he did for thousands of years in the Bible? What if God still lives and speaks? What would be more important to find out? I promise that anyone can know what I know to be true, just go to mormon.org to find out more - and then pray about it with real intent. Then act on it.

Sorry for ending the conversation here, but I've gotta run. I'll see if I can log on again later if anyone has any more questions.

Thank you all for your civility. I hope we understand each other better now

Okay, so the Bible and the book of moron teach the same thing. Then obviously the book of moron was not revealed by God. After all, why would God repeat Himself, if He had already made Himself clear? He is not some jabbering imbecile who speaks compulsively.

Next you say that, while the Bible forbids additions, the very nature of writing necessitates additions. Again, it sounds like you're saying God is an idiot. Why would God forbid adding to scripture, if that was what He wanted?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I'm hoping that we can keep a civil tone and speak of our beliefs without condescension.

True Christianity(tm) is the only true religion that adheres to God's Holy Word without error.

Your cult deserves nothing but scorn and ridicule.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Why Mormons are NOT Christians

I agree that the the feelings I received from the Holy Ghost are not unique to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I truly believe you too have felt the Holy Ghost in your life as well since I can tell that you are a good Christian from your posts I believe that we are all children of our Heavenly Father. Acts 17:29. Thus, our Heavenly Father loves each of us and will guide us towards truth to help us return to him.

Well, my heavenly Father was never a man. (Genesis 1:1)

How do I know it wasn't a figment of my imagination? I can't prove it, but I feel it. Just like I can't see the wind, I sure enough feel its soft breath on my face and know its real. Further, I feel it quite often as I study the scriptures and get on my knees every day in prayer.

I'm sorry, I'm confused. Does that mean you haven't prayed to Jesus to reveal Himself to you as He really is? You just trust your own feelings to be right?

Maybe I should clarify myself a bit. We don't believe that other religions are evil

Apparently Nephi doesn't agree with you:

And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church, which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth.
1 Nephi 14

Why do you come here to persecute us by calling us members of the church of the devil?

I read the Holy Bible (KJV) just as much as I read the Book of Mormon. I truly believe them to be companions which both teach of Jesus Christ and Gods dealings with the people on the American continent at the time.

Where in the KJV do you find the American continent spoken about?



You might find this sermon helpful.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Hi Noah,

Thank you so much for your kind demeanor. I truly appreciate it.

That is a great question! The first one that come to mind is:

John 3:16
16 ¶For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Thanks!

But you don't believe in Him. You believe in some palpably made up twaddle.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Hi Mary - beautiful name by the way -

That is one of the best questions I've heard in a long time. The way I know, and the only way anyone can know the truth, is through prayer. After reading and studying Joseph Smith's words and revelations, I prayed with real intent to know if they were true. I then felt such a calming feeling and the Holy Ghost testified to my heart, with undeniable force, the that it was true.

How do I know it wasn't a figment of my imagination? I can't prove it, but I feel it. Just like I can't see the wind, I sure enough feel its soft breath on my face and know its real. Further, I feel it quite often as I study the scriptures and get on my knees every day in prayer.

Cody, I have a question for you.

Islamists have that same feeling. So do Wiccans. Also, Jews and Hindus.

What makes you think your "feeling" is right, but theirs is wrong? Your only reason given for believing in the tales in the Book of Mormon is this "feeling" that everyone who has subscribed to any religion in the history of the world, each of which claims it is correct and all others are false, has felt.

Without relying upon the objective reality of the Holy Bible, all you've got is a "feeling". That's the same "feeling" many what we call "false Christians" have, when they decide that God couldn't possibly mean THEM when He says adulterers, homosexuals, idolators, etc. will not enter Heaven. They actually decide that the Bible must be "wrong", because their "feeling" tells them otherwise.

The "god" they worship just happens to agree with them on every matter. Why? Because it's a "god" they created for themselves, much like the one Joseph Smith created for himself. You know, the one that says Negroes are "dirty" and it shows in their skin color, but who changes his mind when such a position becomes unpopular in the 1970s.

[cody johnson]

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Cody, I have a question for you.

Islamists have that same feeling. So do Wiccans. Also, Jews and Hindus.

What makes you think your "feeling" is right, but theirs is wrong? Your only reason given for believing in the tales in the Book of Mormon is this "feeling" that everyone who has subscribed to any religion in the history of the world, each of which claims it is correct and all others are false, has felt.

Without relying upon the objective reality of the Holy Bible, all you've got is a "feeling". That's the same "feeling" many what we call "false Christians" have, when they decide that God couldn't possibly mean THEM when He says adulterers, homosexuals, idolators, etc. will not enter Heaven. They actually decide that the Bible must be "wrong", because their "feeling" tells them otherwise.

The "god" they worship just happens to agree with them on every matter. Why? Because it's a "god" they created for themselves, much like the one Joseph Smith created for himself. You know, the one that says Negroes are "dirty" and it shows in their skin color, but who changes his mind when such a position becomes unpopular in the 1970s.

I'm still happy to share my beliefs, even now. Do you really want to know?

[Redeemed Papist]

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I'm still happy to share my beliefs, even now. Do you really want to know?

To be perfectly honest I'm quite shocked by your unbelievable arrogance that you claim to know the mind of God from such ridiculously fabricated evidence.

Are you incapable of seeing that some convicted con merchant coming up with palpably constructed nonsense about the US being where Biblical events happened is just a scam?

All the various revisions and tweakings over the years because people started to see the scam for what it really is - can you not see?

There's a world of difference between the Holy Bible and stuff made up by men to further their own interests by getting a community to behave and think just like they do and to hold them in reverence so they don't have to do any actual work.

Shame on you!

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I'm still happy to share my beliefs, even now. Do you really want to know?

That'd be why I asked. Are you able to answer?

[Bobby-Joe]

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Cody,

You are welcome to talk about your possibly Christian faith Mormonism. You are NOT allowed to use our forum to attack Landover Baptist.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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That'd be why I asked. Are you able to answer?

Apparently Cody is unable to answer some relatively simple questions about his Mormonism.

I'll repeat here, for any Mormons who might stray in:

I agree that the the feelings I received from the Holy Ghost are not unique to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

. . .

How do I know it wasn't a figment of my imagination? I can't prove it, but
I feel it.

Cody, I have a question for you.

Islamists have that same feeling. So do Wiccans. Also, Jews and Hindus.

What makes you think your "feeling" is right, but theirs is wrong? Your only reason given for believing in the tales in the Book of Mormon is this "feeling" that everyone who has subscribed to any religion in the history of the world, each of which claims it is correct and all others are false, has felt.

Without relying upon the objective reality of the Holy Bible, all you've got is a "feeling". That's the same "feeling" many what we call "false Christians" have, when they decide that God couldn't possibly mean THEM when He says adulterers, homosexuals, idolators, etc. will not enter Heaven. They actually decide that the Bible must be "wrong", because their "feeling" tells them otherwise.

The "god" they worship just happens to agree with them on every matter. Why? Because it's a "god" they created for themselves, much like the one Joseph Smith created for himself. You know, the one that says Negroes are "dirty" and it shows in their skin color, but who changes his mind when such a position becomes unpopular in the 1970s.