[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Godly woman disowns Down Syndrome baby

Why is it wrong to offer another perspective on the passage? It's like how some might say "love your neighbour as yourself" means love everyone, but you guys say it means love only True Christians ™. It can be confusing to understand what the Bible is really saying, so that's why we need to interpret it.

God blessed us with the understanding of his Word (John 14:26). If you are upset, you are upset with the LORD, what He says, and what He desires. But you look on as a child who is denied something that is not in his best interest, or a child who is being lovingly reprimanded. God is displeased with people like you. The Prophet reveals, "And I am very sore displeased with the heathen that are at ease: for I was but a little displeased, and they helped forward the affliction." (Zechariah 1:15 ) Don’t you see how your continued rebellion hurts Jesus?

The people of this world have changed the truth of God into lies, and that is why you are so confused as to what the Bible really says. The apostle Paul wrote, "[People like you] changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshiped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen." (Romans 1:22-25) The "creature" referred to here is Satan. People like you are easily duped by Satan’s lies because he tells you just what you want to hear, and so like greedy little toddlers you rush in and gobble up whatever you can find that satiates your immediate desires.

We will not contribute to the spirit of confusion, dear. We will contribute only to the Truth™. Have you considered actually reading the Holy Bible to find out what God's will is? Or will you continue to insist on demanding your own personal, 21st century, western cultural interpretation of modern, secular moral code ought to stand in as a reference from which the Holy Word of God should be understood?

[Basilissa]

Re: Godly woman disowns Down Syndrome baby

Why is it wrong to offer another perspective on the passage? It's like how some might say "love your neighbour as yourself" means love everyone, but you guys say it means love only True Christians ™.

That's because we read all of the Bible, without cherry-picking just what we want to hear. We arrived at the conclusion that God does not want us to love everyone based on the Holy Bible. Those other folks prefer to cite a few verses taken out of context.

It can be confusing to understand what the Bible is really saying, so that's why we need to interpret it.

It probably can be confusing to someone who hasn't actually read the Holy Bible. Whenever you have some spare time, please feel free to do so - even though we Christians are severely persecuted in this country, we are still allowed to read the Word of God.

[WWJDnow]

Re: Godly woman disowns Down Syndrome baby

Why is it wrong to offer another perspective on the passage? It's like how some might say "love your neighbour as yourself" means love everyone, but you guys say it means love only True Christians ™.

We love everyone, even Mongoloids. But God told us that these retards have no place in our Church. I think Jesus knows a bit more about how we should live our lives than you or I do. Don't you?

It can be confusing to understand what the Bible is really saying, so that's why we need to interpret it.

Have you ever noticed that when people "interpret" the Bible, it always turns out to mean exactly what they want it to mean, which is usually the exact opposite of what the Bible actually says? Jesus tells us that we shouldn't beat our slaves too much, and somehow that gets twisted into "slavery is wrong!" There are a million examples like that. Well, we care about what God said, not what some interpreter said. And if you find the Bible confusing, stick with us and we'll be happy to explain it to you.

[Mei Saeki]

Re: Godly woman disowns Down Syndrome baby

A child being born with a disease does NOT make it a monster. In the original post the scripture used is referring to SATAN. Don't make fun of Downers or call them abominations, you don't know how hard their lives are, how would you feel if you were tossed from your family because you were born with a disease. That was how God designed that child, while you may think it's gross and that that baby is an abomination God loves that child.

WE ARE FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE.

[Basilissa]

Re: Godly woman disowns Down Syndrome baby

A child being born with a disease does NOT make it a monster. In the original post the scripture used is referring to SATAN. Don't make fun of Downers or call them abominations, you don't know how hard their lives are, how would you feel if you were tossed from your family because you were born with a disease. That was how God designed that child, while you may think it's gross and that that baby is an abomination God loves that child.

WE ARE FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE.

1. You're forgetting that God does not forget offenses against Him easily, punishing children for the sins of their fathers, grandparents, and great-great grandparents:

Deuteronomy 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God [am] a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth [generation] of them that hate me,

2. God does not love everyone:

Psalm 5:5 The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Romans 9:13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

3. How do we know whom God loves? He shows His love by giving good health:

Deuteronomy 7:12-15
12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, if ye hearken to these judgments, and keep, and do them, that the Lord thy God shall keep unto thee the covenant and the mercy which he sware unto thy fathers:
13 And he will love thee, and bless thee, and multiply thee: he will also bless the fruit of thy womb, and the fruit of thy land, thy corn, and thy wine, and thine oil, the increase of thy kine, and the flocks of thy sheep, in the land which he sware unto thy fathers to give thee.
14 Thou shalt be blessed above all people: there shall not be male or female barren among you, or among your cattle.
15 And the Lord will take away from thee all sickness, and will put none of the evil diseases of Egypt, which thou knowest, upon thee; but will lay them upon all them that hate thee.

On the contrary, God gives sickness to people He wants to destroy:

Deuteronomy 28:61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the Lord bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.

(Feel free to read Deuteronomy 28:15-68 for a complete list of wrath of God towards the people whom He hates; one of my personal favorites is Deuteronomy 28:53 - God wants those He despises to eat their own children).

I hope that helps.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Godly woman disowns Down Syndrome baby

That was how God designed that child, while you may think it's gross and that that baby is an abomination God loves that child.

What makes you think the second follows the first? God designs all kinds of people He will send directly to Hell upon Judgement. What makes you think He loves them all? And, goodness, what would that even mean? Your "God" would create a person He loves, curse him in life, damn him with eternal pain and torment, and be morally okay with that? What kind of monster do you worship?

[Mei Saeki]

Re: Godly woman disowns Down Syndrome baby

Explain how the child is cursed, please?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Godly woman disowns Down Syndrome baby

Explain how the child is cursed, please?

Let me put it in small, simple words for you:

With. Retardism.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Godly woman disowns Down Syndrome baby

A child being born with a disease does NOT make it a monster.

Well, it is hardly "normal" is it? God does these things to show His Glory and Power, and as a warning of what could happen to you (see John:9)

Don't make fun of Downers or call them abominations,

Meh! people, good Christian people, have been doing it for centuries - nobody means any harm - and the Mongs are completely unaware of this.

you don't know how hard their lives are,

No, and neither do they - if you were brought up like that, then that would be all you'd know, wouldn't it?

how would you feel if you were tossed from your family because you were born with a disease.

As we True Christians were brought up in God-Fearing homes, that is hardly a realistic scenario, is it? Please, let's keep this discussion real.

That was how God designed that child, while you may think it's gross and that that baby is an abomination God loves that child.

I have already told you why God did it - please pay attention...

WE ARE FEARFULLY AND WONDERFULLY MADE.

Your caps lock got stuck again... but I'm sure you mean well. However, "meaning well" is not really good enough, is it?