[Brother_Percy]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

I hope Barney shoves a knife your ass &

your parents force you to marry him because
of your so called "religion"

btw this isn't a joke then your a seriously piffletarded caveman

you should go see a therapist.

The only 'joke' here is you, friend. It's pathetic!

[LovePeopleCorrectly]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

I'll tell you exactly what to do. Maybe when you get to the end of the Old Testament, instead of putting the Bible down for the night, read a little bit of the New Testament. There is not a single sane person in the entire world that would want to marry someone that forced them to have sex. You're crazy to even suggest that such horrid actions take place. That "poor soul" you keep talking about is a monster. When Jesus died for our sins, he left us with one commandment: Love thy neighbor as I have loved you. When you do that, everything else falls into place. You would kill someone you loved, right? Would you steal from someone you loved? No? Then why would you rape them? Good for her for wanting to persecute a criminal and a sinner. Shame on you for furthering her torment, and shame on all of you who agree with this lunatic.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

When Jesus died for our sins, he left us with one commandment: Love thy neighbor as I have loved you.

No he didn't. find me that commandment. Chapter and verse.

As for "with [only] one commandment" I actually gasped when I heard that.

John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

Mark 12:29-31 The first of all the commandments is...thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these

1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Ephesians 5:11 Have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord

Ephesians 5:24 As the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing

1 Peter 3:1-5 Wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation [behavior] of the wives; while they behold your chaste conversation [behavior] with fear. Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; but let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands

I think if I go on I'm rather labouring the point if I listed all 180.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

I'll tell you exactly what to do. Maybe when you get to the end of the Old Testament, instead of putting the Bible down for the night, read a little bit of the New Testament.

I did, and guess what I found:

Matt. 5:17-18: Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Heaven and earth give every indication of still being here.

[vengence]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Originally Posted by Brother_Percy
Friends,

I recently received a letter from a concerned parent. In the letter she told me that her daughter had been raped, but was refusing to marry her rapist. The stupid girl actually wants to press charges on the man!

Good for her!

Not only that, but that she also plans to kill the poor unborn baby her rapist had given her! Sickening! Have young people today got NO morals?

You make it sound like being raped is a good thing if it results in a pregnancy.

Any and all advice on what I can say to convince this girl to do the right thing would be great. Should I start with the basics ?

"Whore, you'll burn in Hell for all eternity - unless you marry your rapist"??

Or should I go for a more subtle approach??

For all of you uneducated and simple minded rapist supporters Here are your scriptures. The fact that any of you could consider yourselves Christian is beyond me. I worship a god that is Just, Kind, Loving, and yet Vengeful. That "POOR RAPIST" was self seeking when he defiled that girl. The most sickening portion of all of this is the fact that you would even consider forcing one person into a bond of marriage with a bastard who wants nothing more than to satisfy his own desires of the flesh.

2 chronicles 19:7 “Now then let the fear of the LORD be upon you; be very careful what you do, for the LORD our God will have no part in unrighteousness or partiality or the taking of a bribe.”

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming.Revelation 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war.Revelation 19:15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. "He will rule them with an iron scepter." He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.Job 4:9 At the breath of God they are destroyed; at the blast of his anger they perish.Isaiah 3:14 The LORD enters into judgment against the elders and leaders of his people: "It is you who have ruined my vineyard; the plunder from the poor is in your houses.Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. The zeal of the LORD Almighty will accomplish this.Isaiah 13:11 I will punish the world for its evil, the wicked for their sins. I will put an end to the arrogance of the haughty and will humble the pride of the ruthless.Isaiah 14:30 The poorest of the poor will find pasture, and the needy will lie down in safety. But your root I will destroy by famine; it will slay your survivors.Isaiah 16:5 In love a throne will be established; in faithfulness a man will sit on it--one from the house of David--one who in judging seeks justice and speeds the cause of righteousness.

1 Corinthians 13:4-7 Love is patient, love is kind and is not jealous; love does not brag and is not arrogant, does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

There is no excuse for stupidity anyone can cut portions of scripture to bend it to what they want

Genesis 34:7 Now the sons of Jacob came in from the field when they heard it; and the men were grieved, and they were very angry because he had done a disgraceful thing in Israel by lying with Jacob’s daughter, for such a thing ought not to be done.


YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!




The rest of the civil world is

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

There is no excuse for stupidity anyone can cut portions of scripture to bend it to what they want

You've amply demonstrated that. Now what do you make of the Bible passage quoted in the OP — you know, the one that's on point, and which you've conveniently snipped when responding? After all, we believe in the entire Bible, not just the parts of which you approve.

[vengence]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

You've amply demonstrated that. Now what do you make of the Bible passage quoted in the OP — you know, the one that's on point, and which you've conveniently snipped when responding? After all, we believe in the entire Bible, not just the parts of which you approve.

My point was exactly that.... read all of the scripture before you decide that you are on the level with God to make his judgments for him. No man, Woman or child can condemn anyone to hell for something that happened to them. Having been a rape victim myself I find this disgusting. I was raped in my home in my bed while I slept and my children were in the next room does this make me a whore too because someone entered my home and violated me while I was defenseless? I did nothing to encourage this advance how is this my fault? I do not agree with Abortion but I also to not believe in condemning a person for events that happened to them at the hand of another person.

Luke 6
37“Do not judge, and you will not be judged; and do not condemn, and you will not be condemned; pardon, and you will be pardoned. 38“Give, and it will be given to you. They will pour into your lap a good measure—pressed down, shaken together, and running over. For by your standard of measure it will be measured to you in return.” 39And He also spoke a parable to them: “A blind man cannot guide a blind man, can he? Will they not both fall into a pit? 40“A pupil is not above his teacher; but everyone, after he has been fully trained, will be like his teacher. 41“Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 42“Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck that is in your brother’s eye. 43“For there is no good tree which produces bad fruit, nor, on the other hand, a bad tree which produces good fruit. 44“For each tree is known by its own fruit. For men do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they pick grapes from a briar bush. 45“The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.

[Didymus Much]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

...YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!!!!...

Rage much?

[Jedediah]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Then maybe you shouldn't have been going around dressing like a slut. Don't get mad at us because you ignored the advice given in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611).

I Timothy 2:9
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Like a typical false Christian-in-name-only (CHINO), you try to distort God's Word to insinuate that we are not supposed to judge anything or anyone. The LORD only forbids hypocritical judgment, as indicated in Luke 6:37-38, which you attempted to take out of context earlier. Basically, these verses say that if you judge others, you will be judged accordingly. But since we True Christians(tm) are perfect, there is no hypocrisy in our righteous judgments.

There is no beam in our eyes, lady. In fact, as blood-bought sons of the King, abiding in righteousness and perfection (I John 3:6-9), we welcome God's judgment. Doesn't everyone like a pat on the back and to be told what a great job they've done?

Psalm 7:8
The LORD shall judge the people: judge me, O LORD, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity that is in me.

II Timothy 4:7-8
I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

[vengence]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Then maybe you shouldn't have been going around dressing like a slut. Don't get mad at us because you ignored the advice given in the Holy Bible (KJV 1611).

I Timothy 2:9
In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Like a typical false Christian-in-name-only (CHINO), you try to distort God's Word to insinuate that we are not supposed to judge anything or anyone. The LORD only forbids hypocritical judgment, as indicated in Luke 6:37-38, which you attempted to take out of context earlier. Basically, these verses say that if you judge others, you will be judged accordingly. But since we True Christians(tm) are perfect, there is no hypocrisy in our righteous judgments.

There is no beam in our eyes, lady. In fact, as blood-bought sons of the King, abiding in righteousness and perfection (I John 3:6-9), we welcome God's judgment. Doesn't everyone like a pat on the back and to be told what a great job they've done?

Psalm 7:8
The LORD shall judge the people: judge me, O LORD, according to my righteousness, and according to mine integrity that is in me.

II Timothy 4:7-8
I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith:
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

Pardon my laughter No man is without fault

John 8

7But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. 10Straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” 11She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.”]

What if it was your wife or daughter would you feel the same knowing that they never went out without being covered?

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!




The rest of the civil world is

Of course rest of the world is ashamed of themselves, they are heathens. We, however, are saved. That is nothing to be ashamed of, in fact we happily shout it out to the rest of the world.

Shout GLORY!

[Jedediah]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Pardon my laughter No man is without fault

John 8

7But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.” 8Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. 9When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. 10Straightening up, Jesus said to her, “Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?” 11She said, “No one, Lord.” And Jesus said, “I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more.”]

What if it was your wife or daughter would you feel the same knowing that they never went out without being covered?

Where in those verses of Scripture does it say that True Christians™ are not perfect? Are you trying to twist the Word of God in a vain attempt to show the Holy Bible (KJV 1611) as internally contradictory? Why are you here? This is a Christian forum - a place of praise and fellowship.

You are not the first CHINO to come here and quote John 8:7-11 at us, thinking you are making some sort of profound point. Really, all you are doing is placing further distance between yourself and your Creator by twisting the Word out of context. In these verses, Jesus is speaking to unsaved trash like yourself, who have not accepted Him as their personal LORD and Savior. At that point in time, Jesus had not temporarily died on the cross for our sins, so it was not possible for anyone to have had their sins washed away by His Blood at that point in time (I John 1:7).

However, the Holy Bible tells us that those of us who have accepted Christ as our savior and who do the will of God by following His commandments (Matthew 7:21) are indeed righteous and without error (for more information, read Pastor Jones' sermon, copiously cited with Scripture). We may judge others, but nobody may judge us, lest they do so hypocritically and bring divine punishment down upon their heads.

I Corinthians 2:15
But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

If anyone is to cast the first stone, it is us.

I'm not really sure what you mean about minding that my wife is covered. Of course she is covered when she leaves the house, which she does only with my express permission. She is not even allowed to make herself a dress with sleeves that stop above the elbow. Or are you going to try to twist Scripture to tell me that God wants our women going around dressed like wanton trollops now?

[vengence]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

Of course rest of the world is ashamed of themselves, they are heathens. We, however, are saved. That is nothing to be ashamed of, in fact we happily shout it out to the rest of the world.

Shout GLORY!

again pardon my laughter you honestly don't know that you can speculate

[Thomas Dalton]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

My point was exactly that.... read all of the scripture before you decide that you are on the level with God to make his judgments for him. No man, Woman or child can condemn anyone to hell for something that happened to them. Having been a rape victim myself I find this disgusting. I was raped in my home in my bed while I slept and my children were in the next room does this make me a whore too because someone entered my home and violated me while I was defenseless? I did nothing to encourage this advance how is this my fault? I do not agree with Abortion but I also to not believe in condemning a person for events that happened to them at the hand of another person.

Well, if you were not a single mom, you wouldn't have gotten raped would you? Your husband would have woken up, you see how it's your own fault that you got raped? It's dangerous to go against God.

Did you also know that between 5-25% of the rape cases has been made up?
Don't you think it's clear women are sluts who try to get men to ravish them, but don't like to be called harlots, and that's why they make it up?

Or they make those stories up to try to shock Christians on a private forum, for whichever purpose. That's possible too.

[vengence]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist??

no my husband was not home again with speculation....