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  • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

    Originally posted by dvdenco View Post
    And by the way don't you know that some things in old testament don't apply in the new ? For example eye for an eye.
    Yeah, in your liberal, hippie, "let's 'rehabilitate' repeat murderers" touchy-feely world they do not apply. Here in the real adult world, they still very much do apply as the Lord intended. If you grew up and took your head out of your proverbial arse, you'd probably realize this.

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    • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

      [a reminder for people who can't be bothered to read the whole thread]

      DEUTERONOMY 22
      28 If a man find a damsel that is a virgin, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found;
      29 Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days.


      The rapee must marry her rapist, and may never divorce him (nor he, her)

      That only applies to single women/girls. Those betrothed or married are killed.

      married:
      22 If a man be found lying with a woman married to an husband, then they shall both of them die, both the man that lay with the woman, and the woman: so shalt thou put away evil from Israel.

      betrothed:
      23 If a damsel that is a virgin be betrothed unto an husband, and a man find her in the city, and lie with her;
      24 Then ye shall bring them both out unto the gate of that city, and ye shall stone them with stones that they die; the damsel, because she cried not, being in the city; and the man, because he hath humbled his neighbour's wife: so thou shalt put away evil from among you.


      An additional matter could be raised about divorce - women may not divorce husbands who hate them.

      hate:
      16 And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her;
      17 And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city.
      18 And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him;
      19 And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days.


      I would welcome some pastoral guidance here; in verses 25-27 we read:

      25 But if a man find a betrothed damsel in the field, and the man force her, and lie with her: then the man only that lay with her shall die.
      26 But unto the damsel thou shalt do nothing; there is in the damsel no sin worthy of death: for as when a man riseth against his neighbour, and slayeth him, even so is this matter:
      27 For he found her in the field, and the betrothed damsel cried, and there was none to save her.


      Does that mean that either the girl's father (or betrothed husband) is stuck with her WITHOUT COMPENSATION?

      As to the other posters gainsaying God, who created them, it may be that they can't read, and just use some sort of voice recognition application to do their posting. That would explain their extreme ignorance of God's Perfect Love, and of His plan for the whole world.

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      • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

        What happens if you have a serial rapist raping all your virgin daughters ? Does he need to marry them all ? Or can a man only have one woman ? Or what if there is a rapist that abuses ur virgin boy ? Hoho all these questions can i have a brother answer it for me

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        • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

          Yes, being as he seems a man of some stamina, he could marry them all, as long as he has the money. A man may have many wives (only check the law in your state) If he rapes a boy, both shall be put to death. He is a homer and the boy has been tainted by his homerism.
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          • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

            I am The Lord Thy God, thou shalt not impose thine will upon others, surely i have made you all with a free will of your own.
            Ye who impose your will on others shall be punished in the pit of eternal fire whilst maggots dine on thine festering remains.

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            • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

              Originally posted by TheLordThyGod View Post
              I am The Lord Thy God, thou shalt not impose thine will upon others, surely i have made you all with a free will of your own.
              Ye who impose your will on others shall be punished in the pit of eternal fire whilst maggots dine on thine festering remains.
              Who are you, really?
              “By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” – 1 John 5:2-3

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              • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                Originally posted by Adilene View Post
                Who are you, really?
                You dare question the Lord? Hath mankind forgotten the true purpose behind the scriptures so soon? You bring about you the end of days and for each of you disbelievers whom stray from the scripts and attempt to wrong youre brethren by imposing thine will upon them.
                As for you little christian girl, you may claim to follow mine son but thou art no believer in mine eyes. Alike the rest though shall burn in the eternal pit of tar and fire. And for all thee who question me only the deepest pits of Tartarus shall house thee, from the end of days and unto eternity.

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                • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                  Originally posted by TheLordThyGod View Post
                  You dare question the Lord? Hath mankind forgotten the true purpose behind the scriptures so soon? You bring about you the end of days and for each of you disbelievers whom stray from the scripts and attempt to wrong youre brethren by imposing thine will upon them.
                  As for you little christian girl, you may claim to follow mine son but thou art no believer in mine eyes. Alike the rest though shall burn in the eternal pit of tar and fire. And for all thee who question me only the deepest pits of Tartarus shall house thee, from the end of days and unto eternity.

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                  • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                    Originally posted by TheLordThyGod View Post
                    You dare question the Lord? Hath mankind forgotten the true purpose behind the scriptures so soon? You bring about you the end of days and for each of you disbelievers whom stray from the scripts and attempt to wrong youre brethren by imposing thine will upon them.
                    As for you little christian girl, you may claim to follow mine son but thou art no believer in mine eyes. Alike the rest though shall burn in the eternal pit of tar and fire. And for all thee who question me only the deepest pits of Tartarus shall house thee, from the end of days and unto eternity.

                    Galatians 6:7


                    Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.



                    “By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” – 1 John 5:2-3

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                    • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                      Originally posted by Old Iron Crotch View Post
                      The rapist is NOT the victim. The rapist is a criminal. No one forced him to whip out his johnson.

                      I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.... Some people are just too blinded to see the real problem in some things.... What if one of your beloved nuns get raped? The rapist is still the victim i guess? What if a father rapes his daughter? The father is the victim.... DONT BE SO STUPID... Theres a great difference between religion and being stupid.... You pastors are too blind... Im sorry but I have to agree with her at some points... I am a Christian.. and I do believe in God... but I am not blind....

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                      • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                        Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
                        You are a blatant liar. I defy you to show any proof of that idiotic statement.



                        here... and if that doesnt work.. go to google....

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                        • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                          Originally posted by doreen View Post
                          I know this sounds bad, but I feel like I know where those women are coming from. It breaks my heart to think about my son Josias burning in Hell, but he rejected Jesus and I know that's where he's going to end up. If only he had died as a child before he reached the age of accountability, he'd be in Heaven waiting for me right now. Now he went and got a restraining order against Pastor so he can't share the word of God with him anymore. Breaks my heart. I'm going to be in Heaven, but Josias will be suffering in Hell.

                          I'm just glad to know that Jesus is going to wipe away my tears.

                          Revelation 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

                          Praise Him!

                          WHO GIVES YOU THE RIGHT TO SAY THAT YOU WILL BE GOING TO HEAVEN????? PASTORS? PRIESTS? Isnt it a shame that you yourselves judge others and act like you have never committed sin....

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                          • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                            Originally posted by Iwanttoproveapoint2 View Post
                            What if one of your beloved nuns get raped?
                            Our what?

                            I am a Christian.. and I do believe in God... but I am not blind....
                            So you basically believe in God, but disagree with his instructions?
                            Psalm 81:10:
                            I am the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt:
                            open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.

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                            • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                              Originally posted by Ezekiel Bathfire View Post
                              There is no innocence in adultery. Both are to be killed. You show me where it says otherwise.

                              Le:20:10: And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
                              THEN GO KILL THE GIRL AND THE RAPIST IF YOU WANT... =) OH THE IRONY....

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                              • Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

                                Originally posted by Wide-Open View Post
                                Our what?



                                So you basically believe in God, but disagree with his instructions?
                                I dont but i disagree to the fact that the girl is the sinner... they aren't married... God created love right? kindly explain to me what love is.... ill say that its not forcing yourself to be married to someone who raped you... im so sorry for this... but i just think that having to marry the rapist is stupid... Don't avoid my question by saying that I am evil.... It wont work...


                                Im curious at the time when God will come... Will he be coming in a simple manner??? How sure are we that we wont treat him like Jesus??? How will we know if the saviour comes and if he really is the saviour... I admit that I need enlightenment.... It's just that when I have a daughter... I dont want her to marry a rapist... and I dont want her to marry someone she doesnt love...... I dont read the Bible much but i have to admit that I follow God's commandments... well most of them...

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