[SweetDeath]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

thx 4 the fun. ill b bak 2morrow to get some more

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

When a rape happens, there are two victims: the woman and the man. Do you think the man enjoys being hated for the rest of his life and being sodomized in prison? No.

But has one never heard of a false rape accusation?

Look here, for example: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...ccusation.html

[QUOTE]A lesbian who regretted a one night stand with a man has been jailed after making a false allegation of rape that left her victim "suicidal".[/QUOTE]

The poor man was held (and hated) for 19 hours for something he didn't even do.

All it takes is for a woman to say "he raped me" and boom, your life is over. How is that fair?

Also check out this informative article:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,194032,00.html

Now please inform us why we are the evildoers here? We do not yell "rapist!" at a man and then destroy his life even though he is 100% innocent. And even in the isolated case where he is innocent, the Bible offers clear and moral solutions.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Great point GOD=life! I would also think this is a great opportunity to point out to everyone here that I have created a ministry aimed at helping rapists. It's called "Raptured Rapists" and provides counseling and support for men who have committed rape.

A man who commits rape is going through a lot. Obviously if he is forcing a woman to have sex with him, he has a lot of psychological issues. Then afterwards he struggles with feelings of intense guilt from his crime, depression, anxiety attacks from worrying about getting caught by police, and more.

These men need our help. Please, spread the word and get it it out.

[God's Student]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

What about serial rapists? That feel no crime and continue to rape women, even good, married, Christian women?

Surely there is no hope for these men?

[James Dewitt]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

What about serial rapists? That feel no crime and continue to rape women, even good, married, Christian women?

Surely there is no hope for these men?

If the man has repented for his repeated sins and has accepted Jesus as his savior. If the man becomes baptized and follows the word of God for the remainder of his life, surely there is hope. Is that not the reason that Jesus died for us? His death, while brutal as it was, had to be so that ALL mankind(Christians) could be cleansed of our sins and return to be with our Lord and Savior in Heaven .

Praise Jesus, Shout Glory to the Heavens.

[Rev Jeffrey Lebowski]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Originally Posted by God's Student What about serial rapists?

What?
Any fool that would attempt to diddle a bowl of Cheerios is one sick dude.
Wouldn't the milk be cold?
How would ya hold the bowl?
Freakin' perverts will try and fornicate with almost anything.
I knew of a guy who had a Mason jar full of buttered macaroni, and he would....
Ooopps, sorry!
Sister Verna has told me to remember that we are in polite company, and that I should not tell tales about her family members.

Rev Jeffrey Lebowski
Sister Verna Too {she is embarrassed when I do man-talk}

[James Hutchins]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

What about serial rapists? That feel no crime and continue to rape women, even good, married, Christian women?

Surely there is no hope for these men?

Are you sure these unfortunates are not just screaming out for help? Perhaps, if you took a second to reach out to your fellow man, a lot of his heartbreak could be dampened by your love.

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

It is funny that people try hypothetical scenarios... "what if X, what if Y". Guys, read Deuteronomy. It's all there. It is childishly simple.

You want a factual scenario? How about the men who are put in prison for 20 years and sodomized by homersexuals because they were too poor to be able to afford a hot shot lawyer?

Then after they are completely broken, they are freed on the basis of DNA evidence.

Can you really use logic to back up that men should be raped and sodomized for decades whenever a woman decides that she didn't like the one-night stand after all??

It is PROVEN FACT that a) women frequently make false rape accusations and b) at least 9% of women admit to having frequent rape fantasies.

Please, if you want to go for non-Biblical facts, prove those facts are wrong. You are so blinded by the fact that people use the Bible as reference that you completely let go of any logic.

In rational debate, it does not matter what your feelings or emotions are about a subject. Calling people idiots for instance is not an argument (i.e. ad hominem fallacy). Please do not claim intellect or logic when you are overcome by your own negative emotions. You are merely being someone with an emotionally-grounded opinion.

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Love? So according to the Bible and according to you all such thing does not exsist. Marriage is just to clean sins. There is no trace of love anywhere. And that you call happiness.

Go back and read my post. Did I say that people who love each other can not marry? Did I say that the only purpose of marriage was to absolve or avoid sin? Have I been anything but straightforward in dealign with you? Please point out where I said these things.

I was speaking of God's commandment that a rapist marry the woman who slept with him. That is all. Do you have any other questions about what the Bible says? Do you need a free copy?

[Sir Oral Essex III]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

It is funny that people try hypothetical scenarios... "what if X, what if Y". Guys, read Deuteronomy. It's all there. It is childishly simple.

You want a factual scenario? How about the men who are put in prison for 20 years and sodomized by homersexuals because they were too poor to be able to afford a hot shot lawyer?

Then after they are completely broken, they are freed on the basis of DNA evidence.

Can you really use logic to back up that men should be raped and sodomized for decades whenever a woman decides that she didn't like the one-night stand after all??

It is PROVEN FACT that a) women frequently make false rape accusations and b) at least 9% of women admit to having frequent rape fantasies.

Please, if you want to go for non-Biblical facts, prove those facts are wrong. You are so blinded by the fact that people use the Bible as reference that you completely let go of any logic.

In rational debate, it does not matter what your feelings or emotions are about a subject. Calling people idiots for instance is not an argument (i.e. ad hominem fallacy). Please do not claim intellect or logic when you are overcome by your own negative emotions. You are merely being someone with an emotionally-grounded opinion.

I am standing and applauding at my desk.

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Maybe she went to buy her friggin tampons.

First of all, watch your language. This is God's Favorite Church, not Satan's Filthiest Tongue!

Next, let's keep this thread on topic. We don't need to get into what the Bible says about the curse of "being visited by Aunt Flow." It is VERY CLEAR that women who are "riding the cotton pony" are unclean and need to be exiled for the entire time while they are "being invaded by the communists."

Leviticus 15:19-30
And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it be on her bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she shall be unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe himself in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one for a sin offering, and the other for a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness.

I am not sure how there could be ANY doubt about what the rule is here. But in case there is, there are at least two more passages I know of:

Leviticus 20:18
And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people.

Ezekiel 18:5-6
But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right, and hath not ... come near to a menstruous woman.....

Now let's stay on topic, people.

[Lindsay the Heathen]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Ok, i briefly read some of this thread, i would like to know in what fucked up logic makes it ok for me to repeatedly rape a woman as long as i ask for forgiveness and live a saved life after. So it the girls fault for being a temptress whore, that is why she got raped? Enlighten me on how you can ignore the facts about rape to make these arguments.

[GOD=life]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

i would like to know in what piffleed up logic makes it ok for me to repeatedly rape a woman as long as i ask for forgiveness and live a saved life after

I will answer:
1. Why do you want to rape women?

2. No one spoke about repeated rapes, only a single rape and against a virgin who is not bethrothed. There is capital punishment for practically all other situations.

3. It is about taking responsibility and dedicating the rest of your life to this woman.

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

Ok, i briefly read some of this thread, i would like to know in what piffleed up logic makes it ok for me to repeatedly rape a woman as long as i ask for forgiveness and live a saved life after.

Frankly, I am shocked that you would honest enough to admit such crimes on the internets, but I suppose such is the Power fo the Lord within our website! Shout Glory!

That said, if you were a True Christian™ then the subsequent times you forced the woman to have relations with you would NOT constitute rape since you would be married.

So it the girls fault for being a temptress whore, that is why she got raped? Enlighten me on how you can ignore the facts about rape to make these arguments.

What facts have we not already discussed? Have you read the Bible? We are just repeating what it says. Why do you hate the Bible? Perhaps you were raised in a community of people who like to talk about John 3:16 as if it were the ONLY part of the Bible? If so, I am sorry for you.

Try this simple exercise to get rid of the "cafeteria Christian" type of "belief" taht may be haunting you and preventing you from connecting with Jesus: Every time you hear a True Christian™ politician or talking head mention "Christian Values" or that our country was created based on "Biblical Values," visit our fairly new Read The Bible in a Year forum and read the Bible scripture for whatever day you are on. I recommend watching Fox News since this will guarantee that you visit our forum at least once every 20 minutes. I guarantee you that doing so will quickly show to you what the Bible is REALLY all about and turn you into a True Christian™!!

[dontsaveme]

Re: What can you do if your daughter refuses to marry her rapist?

you bible tumping retards have blown my mind with this topic please tell me how in any fucking way you can support rape i mean really it just blows my mind all of you christans claim that god is so loving,caring and forgiving and yet you support such evil fucking actions and clim that it was the girls fault saying things like she must of dressed like a slut or she led him on and then you say she sould marry him for GODS sake that doesnt sound vary christain at all and how can you sick twisted fucks even belive in supporting rape when majority of the world thinks its one the most wicked and evil actions a human can do and if it is GOD telling you that she was some how wrong and that the rapeist should be forgiven then I am damn proud to be an athiest cause if thats the way god works then im better of going with satan if i ever need a religion

ps. all christains who belive god will forgive any and everyone and show them love and mercy are beliveng hipacritcal christain bullshit because in truth your god is a jealous a god and a real jackass