[MitzaLizalor]

Re: I don't understand

The point that I was trying, but apparently failed, to make was that by insulting all those people you do not respect your own forum rules.

Those people are an affront to God.

Can one so blighted possibly understand the substitutionary Divine/human sacrifice of Jesus? The efficacy of His injuries and of His gushing Blood pumped by that dying Heart from a heathen inflicted wound? The significance of that mingled water and Blood shed upon the earth beneath?

The anguish of Isaac or of Jephthah (or his daughter)? The predestination of so many to everlasting torture in the flames of HELL?

Of course they can't. They are incapable of worshipping the Lord God of Israel and The Bible teaches us what should happen to any such abomination:

II CHRONICLES 15
12 And they entred into a couenant to seeke the Lord God of their fathers, with all their heart and with all their soule:
13 That whosoeuer would not seeke the Lord God of Israel, should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
14 And they sware vnto the Lord with a loud voice, and with shouting, and with trumpets, and with cornets.
15 And all Iudah reioyced at the oath: for they had sworne with all their heart, & sought him with their whole desire, and he was found of them: and the Lord gaue them rest round about.
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Praise God for His excellent greatness! . Psalm 150:2

[Sander1207]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

i knew that religious fanatics weren't the smartest people on the planet, but what i'm reading here is simply to insane for words. i really wish some of you would open their eyes and see the real world in stead of believing everything that's written in a book a couple of wannabe's wrote 2 thousand years ago about a hippie named Jesus. Because that's what he was, a hippie, preaching for "peace and loooooove, man".

oh btw, didn't jesus say that one cannot judge others, and to love and respect everyone, even when they are different? at least that's what they told me in my bible class when I was a young boy. I think He would be pretty ashamed of you, all of you!

and what's most childish is that everyone who doesn't follow your narrowminded and ignorant ways is expelled from this forum.

God is love! peace out!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

i knew that religious fanatics weren't the smartest people on the planet, but what i'm reading here is simply to insane for words. i really wish some of you would open their eyes and see the real world in stead of believing everything that's written in a book a couple of wannabe's wrote 2 thousand years ago about a hippie named Jesus.
Because that's what he was, a hippie, preaching for "peace ...didn't jesus say that one
cannot judge others, and to love and
respect everyone, even when they are different? at least that's what they told me in my bible class..

You are making some pretty extraordinary claims there. Please quote the scripture to support them [IN CONTEXT].

You suggested "God is love" at the end, but from what you wrote beforehand I'd say that what you mean is that "Love is god" so I've removed that bit of the quote.

As far as "different" people are concerned, God is quite clear that most of them should be killed and that Jesus will personally kill several billion such wretches. Quite soon in fact.

These facts have been quoted frequently so it is up to you to provide supporting scripture for your own heretical burblings. There is an introduction forum where you can post an introductory thread and we can welcome you more properly.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

You Christians are all the same. You read a book about a so-called "god" that has never been seen or heard

I beg to differ!

Exodus 33:17-23

17And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name. 18And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory. 19And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy. 20And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. 21And the LORD said, Behold, there is a place by me, and thou shalt stand upon a rock: 22And it shall come to pass, while my glory passeth by, that I will put thee in a clift of the rock, and will cover thee with my hand while I pass by: 23And I will take away mine hand, and thou shalt see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen.

God showed Himself to Moses (with precautions) so I suggest you get your facts right.

[god hates gais]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Tell me how is this the work of god??? how can god hate gays, lesbians or people with down syndrome, when he was the one who created them?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

God did create people. Gays chose to be gays. They go against the Bible. Retard kids are punishement for thier parents for sins they have done and refused to repent for. Often it is for premarital sex or masturbation.

I can mow my lawn perfectly but if your dog comes on it, pees and burns my grass, I have every right to seek retribution.

[Sander1207]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

These facts have been quoted frequently

these 'facts' you're referring to can only be read about in the bible, which is just a book. it does not hold any more truth than eg the shining or the da vinci code.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

these 'facts' you're referring to can only be read about in the bible, which is just a book. it does not hold any more truth than eg the shining or the da vinci code.

Friend, these facts are displayed daily, whether you want to see them or not. These drooling imbeciles are in shopping carts, having tantrums, tossing food from the shelves. In parks, shrieking and running into trees. And that insidious laugh.
So friend, the Bible describes them true, but decent, God loving, Bible following people have to be subjected to them. That is simply not right, not one bit.
I am shocked you'd say the Word of God was the same as a drug store sex novel!

[Brother Enoch]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

these 'facts' you're referring to can only be read about in the bible, which is just a book. it does not hold any more truth than eg the shining or the da vinci code.

Are you saying you can't tell the difference between the Bible and a work of fiction?

You must be one of those retardeds this thread is about.

Are you wearing a helmet right now?

[Bobby-Joe]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

these 'facts' you're referring to can only be read about in the bible, which is just a book. it does not hold any more truth than eg the shining or the da vinci code.

Idiot,

The Bible is the ONLY written, primary historical record we have about the Levant in the late Bronze age and early Iron age. Are you so utterly stupid as to think Herod the Great, Pontius Pilate and Simone the Maccabees are imaginary characters? So is Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar and Nebuchadnezzar the Second are all story book characters too?

Exactly how do you get it be such a ignorant waste of space on the planet like you Sander?

Here's a clue dummy butt; the other ancients were fascinated by the Bible because that the first time anyone thought to keep a record like that.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

Tell me how is this the work of god??? how can god hate gays, lesbians or people with down syndrome, when he was the one who created them?

We don't know why. We aren't supposed to. We're just supposed to do as we are told.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

These facts have been quoted frequently so it is up to you to provide supporting scripture for your own heretical burblings. There is an introduction forum where you can post an introductory thread and we can welcome you more properly.

I notice that you have not made an introductory post yet. Additionally you have not provided any scripture to support your statements about Jesus.

These facts have been quoted frequently

these 'facts' you're referring to can only be read about in the bible, which is just a book. it does not hold any more truth than eg the shining or the da vinci code.

And yet you are telling us what Jesus taught - based on what?
You are announcing that God is "love" - yet fail to define love or give any sources for what you say.

Where are you getting your information about Jesus?
Where are you getting your information about God?

II John 1:6 And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

We do not use some sort of secret language - we define our meanings and quote our sources. You do neither.

[Sander1207]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

oh come on, just because the bible mentions some historical figures doesn't mean everything in it is true! i don't know about all of you, but i have NEVER seen anyone cure a man from paralysis or change water into wine.

i respect your beliefs, but i just can't accept the fact that you choose to deny facts that have been proven and say horrible things like you did about people with down syndrome

[Didymus Much]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

...i have NEVER seen anyone cure a man from paralysis or change water into wine...

So I guess you don't believe in gravity or oxygen, either?

Why don't you go help the Japanese clean up a place called Fukushima? You can't see the radiation, so it's not real and won't hurt you.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Down syndrome is a lifestyle choice!

oh come on, just because the bible mentions some historical figures doesn't mean everything in it is true! i don't know about all of you, but i have NEVER seen anyone cure a man from paralysis or change water into wine.

Sandy -- May I call you Sandy?

You say that because the Bible is a book which mentions historical figures, there's no proof it's true.

My Brother Bobby-Joe asked you about Alexander the Great, for example, because you accept that he was real. He's not mentioned in the Bible; but the evidence of his existence only is found in books.

So, what proof do you have that Alexander the Great existed at all? How do you know he's not some made-up character like Theseus or Thor?

Have you ever seen Hannibal crossing the Alps? I'd bet not. So how do you know it happened? Because you read it in a book, that's why.

So, how do you decide which books are true and which aren't?

i respect your beliefs, but i just can't accept the fact that you choose to deny facts that have been proven and say horrible things like you did about people with down syndrome

If you respected our beliefs, you wouldn't be here insulting them, now would you?

So, let's stop lying. You don't respect Christianity at all. You joined a Christian church's discussion forum to tell us the Bible is a book of fairy tales.

As for "things about people with Down syndrome", let's look at this logically:

God is all-knowing, right? Right.

God is all-powerful, right? Right.

This means that God knows when a child -- say, Trig Palin -- is going to be born with Down Syndrome. Right? Right.

It also means that God can prevent or change that condition. Right? Right.

So, when a child is born with Down Syndrome, God knows, and God has chosen to allow it to be so.

Therefore, God has inflicted this horrible curse on someone -- the child, or the parent. Perhaps both. Is it a punishment? Is it a test? Has God allowed demonic possession to deform the child?

And what about curing? God can change anything; so He can cure Down Syndrome. What does it say when He chooses not to?

Obviously, the child has been cursed by God. Perhaps it's to punish its parents, or perhaps it is an evil child and God is preparing it for its future in Hell. It is not for us to say. But we do know that there is some evil afoot, or God would not allow it to happen.

Sarah Palin had a mongoloid because she was neglecting her wifely duties and asserting herself above men. God was reminding her that her job is to obey her husband, not to run the country.