[vincientv]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

osamba and fluffy bunnies. you definitely have a rational, strong argument there.

We have been Saved by Christ.

I find that unlikely. It seems like you're way to busy trying to save yourselves, you can't possibly have enough time to be saved by Christ. Of course, I wouldn't presume to judge like you, but I would advise you to consider luke 13:24. I understand you've already deciphered the exact meaning of all the things God said, but I'll post it anyway.

24 “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Sir, open the door for us.’

“But he will answer, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’

Maybe you should think a little more critically about what you're saying and doing, because the consequences are pretty serious.

Of course, I can't argue with you, as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct....

Nobody in the world is perfect. only God. If you would stop being so arrogent as to presume you are on the same level as him, you would realize it. But you're not interested in god. You're interested in cultism and vitriol.

Here's some homework reading, (although I bet all this will be deleted shortly because you can't handle people challenging your cult belief ):

http://www.lermanet.com/deprogramming/five-steps-to-create-a-cult.htm

I'm done here, because nothing good come from doing this. Don't drink the kool-aid. (or eat the pies.)

[Roberta]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Learn to use the quote system, TV, or go enter a Canadian beauty pageant.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

osamba and fluffy bunnies. you definitely have a rational, strong argument there.

I don't need a "rational, strong argument" to avoid Hell. I need only the Grace of Christ Jesus, which I have.

Maybe you should think a little more critically about what you're saying and doing, because the consequences are pretty serious.

What I'm saying and doing is a direct reflection of my LORD, Jesus Christ. I have been saved, I have been adopted according to the good pleasure of His will (Ephesians 1:5), I have been made a new creature in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:17).

And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
John 10:28-29

I am SAFE! PRAISE THE LORD!!!!

Of course, I can't argue with you, as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct. --> And as you said, I'm evil because I'm questioning you. Why is questioning you evil? --> Because everything you or anyone else you agree with is 100% biblically accurate. --> So whatever you say is the same as what God says, and therefore correct....

Dear, I think a virus got into your computer.

Nobody in the world is perfect. only God. If you would stop being so arrogent as to presume you are on the same level as him, you would realize it. But you're not interested in god. You're interested in cultism and vitriol.

I am interested only in serving my husband, as is my duty. (Genesis 3:16)

Here's some homework reading, (although I bet all this will be deleted shortly because you can't handle people challenging your cult belief ):

http://www.lermanet.com/deprogramming/five-steps-to-create-a-cult.htm

I'm done here, because nothing good come from doing this. Don't drink the kool-aid. (or eat the pies.)

Then you are a coward? Why do you leave so soon? Why not learn what God wants from you?

[vincientv]

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oh wow. i understand it all now. JESUS HAS SPOKEN TO ME! this is wonderful. you guys really are doing gods work. consider me saved! hahaha.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

...consider me saved! hahaha.

Visa, MasterCard, or AmEx?

[TheCarlinist666]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Honest Question....who the wrote the bible?

Lets be honest....moses did not get the 10 commandments up on a hill....when no one was around. He probably had heat stroke.

And by the way....ever heard of the CRUSADES?

I would never want to be a member of a group whose symbol was a guy nailed to two pieces of wood.
I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death
I've begun worshipping the sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the sun. It's there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, a lovely day. There's no mystery, no one asks for money, I don't have to dress up, and there's no boring pageantry. And interestingly enough, I have found that the prayers I offer to the sun and the prayers I formerly offered to God are all answered at about the same 50-percent rate.

When it comes to BULLSHIT...BIG-TIME, MAJOR LEAGUE BULLSHIT... you have to stand IN AWE, IN AWE of the all time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion.

Hey heathen basher go kiss a dude

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Honest Question....who the wrote the bible?

God, who penned it by the men he chose (2 Peter 1:19-21)

Lets be honest....moses did not get the 10 commandments up on a hill....when no one was around. He probably had heat stroke.

Oh wow, why we're doing that, why not just say that every holy prophet of God was fallible and ignorant and misled the world based on their own greed and desires for power. Is that what you believe? Not everyone is like your idol Carl Marx who was wicked and conceited to the core.

And by the way....ever heard of the CRUSADES?

One word: Catholics

I'm completely in favor of the separation of Church and State. My idea is that these two institutions screw us up enough on their own, so both of them together is certain death

The idea of Separation of Church and State gets a real good laugh around here. A number of Landover's senior pastors are on the board of oversight for the United States Department of Faith. You really don't think we own this country already?

Ignorant Stalinist.

I've begun worshipping the sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the sun. It's there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, a lovely day.

There's no mystery, no one asks for money, I don't have to dress up, and there's no boring pageantry. And interestingly enough, I have found that the prayers I offer to the sun and the prayers I formerly offered to God are all answered at about the same 50-percent rate

When it comes to BULLSHIT...BIG-TIME, MAJOR LEAGUE BULLSHIT... you have to stand IN AWE, IN AWE of the all time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims, religion.

Quoting the damned will get you infractions fast around here!

Pastor Ed

[Bobby-Joe]

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Honest Question....who the wrote the bible?

What part of it? It was written over a 1,000 year period.

Also "writer" in the modern sense - a guy sitting as his desk writing his thoughts down on a piece of paper doesn't apply to the ancient world. All the books were almost certainly dictated to a scribe.

And while you are at it, since reason free of religion is such a wonderful thing please explain to me eugenics.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

Honest Question....who the wrote the bible?

Lets be honest....moses did not get the 10 commandments up on a hill....when no one was around. He probably had heat stroke.

Yes, and carved stone tablets on a high mountain (where it would be COLD) as evidence.

Are all atheists as stupid as you?

By the way, the man whose blasphemy you're quoting without attribution is dead. God will resurrect, then burn George Carlin alive in His Lake of Fire for all time. Thought you might have forgotten.

[MentalFin9erz]

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-Notable atheists have converted to Christianity. The reverse never happens.

I'm a Christian converted to atheism and I have MANY friends and family members who are the same. So, you're very wrong. Also, just because a book says something is true doesn't mean it is. Do you believe in Voldemort and Narnia too?

[MentalFin9erz]

Re: Why atheism is wrong - the shocking and unbiased truth

What part of it? It was written over a 1,000 year period.

Also "writer" in the modern sense - a guy sitting as his desk writing his thoughts down on a piece of paper doesn't apply to the ancient world. All the books were almost certainly dictated to a scribe.

And while you are at it, since reason free of religion is such a wonderful thing please explain to me eugenics.

Dude...your icon is a KKK member and your description is clearly anti-gay. How could any "god" make people as hateful as yourself? The members of this website are misguided, racist, prejudiced, and disgusting, just like your stupid beliefs.

Atheists for the win. 666 OFWGKTA!!!!

[Alphonse Alban]

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-Notable atheists have converted to Christianity. The reverse never happens.

I'm a Christian converted to atheism and I have MANY friends and family members who are the same. So, you're very wrong.

What part of "Notable" you did not understand?

[tyrone the godmocker]

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I found a great article online, and in case you don't feel like reading it all (it's quite long), I'll summarize it here for you:

http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism

-All atheists believe in evolution, which means they don't believe in morality and think we should all act like animals.

-Atheists try to shift the burden of proof unfairly upon theists (ie, atheists make the wild and unprovable claim that God does not exist, and then unfairly expect us Christians to prove that He DOES exist)

-The Bible says atheism is wrong, and the Bible is always right (see: Genesis 1:1, Psalms 14:1, Psalms 19:1, Romans 1:19-20)

-Some famous atheists have shown they occasionally have doubts about their disbelief, which proves that all atheists really do believe in God. Of course, no Christian has ever doubted the existence of God.

-Everybody who has ever been in the army will tell you that there are no atheists in foxholes. That is, once they are in danger of death, the atheist will strip himself of his irrational disbelief in God, and come to admit he believed in God all along. Only liberal slimebags like MSNBC report otherwise.

-Communism, which is inherently evil, is founded by atheism, and all atheists are probably secret communists.

-Because we can think of the existence of God, God must obviously exists, and therefore atheists are illogical.

-Everything in the universe shows obvious and undeniable signs that it was created by a mind far superior to our own.

-a lot of mass murderers were atheists, and all atheists, having no morality to guide them, are only a bad day away from going on a genocide spree. There have no exactly zero cases on Christian mass murderers throughout all of history.

-no atheists contribute to charitable causes, and all Christians do. This is because of atheist's beliefs in Darwinism.

-I quote: "The Barna Group found regarding atheism and morality that those who hold to the worldviews of atheism or agnosticism in America were more likely, than theists in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable: illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; abortion; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language; gambling; pornography and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in homosexuality/bisexuality" Despicable.

-I quote: "
Atheism The belief that there was nothing and nothing happened to nothing and then nothing magically exploded for no reason creating everything and then a bunch of everything magically rearranged itself for no reason what so ever into self-replicating bits which then turned into dinosaurs."


-atheists don't believe in miracles, although many Christian philosophers disagree.


-atheism cannot explain the origins of the universe, therefore God exists.


-Atheists have more mental and physical health problems than Christians. This is attributed to theists having something more to life for. Therefore, God exists.



-Friedrich Nietzsche went crazy and was an atheist, therefore atheism drove him insane (although there is an ongoing debate on the matter...)


-Countries with large numbers of atheists have higher suicide rates, therefore atheism makes you want to kill yourself. Of course they would take the easy way out, not realizing like normal people that God sends suicide cases to hell. Also, developed nations also tend to have higher rates of both atheism and suicide, so we must conclude that technology and wealth are evil.


-Sigmund Freud said religious belief was unhealthy, but many doctors think Freud is wrong, therefore atheism is evil.


-many famous atheists tell lies, therefore atheists are deceptive.



-Fewer people believe now as opposed to x number of years ago (usually around twenty) in evolution, therefore evolutionary theory is wrong and by proxy atheism is wrong, since it's the same thing.


-Non-Christians are more likely to believe in silly superstitions, like palm reading and astronomy (note: Non-Christian = atheist). Christians believe only in the cold, hard logical of the world around them.


-Some theologians say atheist is on the decline, therefore it is. However, this is no reason to lose caution of the atheist threat!



-There are a number of anti-atheist blogs (isn't that good to know? )


-there is a pro-atheist bias in the liberal controlled media, but as we know from stated above that atheism is on the decline, this hardly matters.


-Causes of atheism (I quote): moral depravity, rebellion, superficiality, error, state churches, poor relationship with father, division in religion, learned times, peace, and prosperity, negative experiences with theists, scientism.



-atheists question why evil exists since God is good, but don't ask why good exists if God isn't real.


-early scientists were Christian, therefore Christianity owns a monopoly on science and atheists are not allowed to say there is discrepancy between the beliefs in the two.


-Sir Francis Bacon said he'd rather belief in any silly old legend then believe that God doesn't exist


-Some Christian apologists have problems with the beliefs of Bertrand Russell



-Creation scientists tend to win creation-evolution debates


-Notable atheists have converted to Christianity. The reverse never happens.




A poll found these results =

Position: This group does not at all agree with
my vision of American society: I would disapprove if my child wanted
to marry a member of this group: Atheist 39.6% 47.6%

Therefore, the majority of normal people clearly know atheism is evil.


-atheists criticism of the Bible can't be trusted because, I quote: "a thorough understanding of the Bible -- and this would actually apply to any complex work from any culture -- requires specialized knowledge, and a broad range of specialized knowledge in a variety of fields.... Not even most scholars in the field can master every aspect"


Of course, I quote: The Bible is still loved by millions, read by millions, and studied by millions.


-atheists make bad arguments on the internet, says Christian apologist.


-atheists try to convert young people to atheism over the internet. Christians, of course, never stoop to such behavior.


-Nearly a quarter or a third of philosophy professors are theists, therefore, I quote: "God is not 'dead' in academia; he returned to life in the 1960's and is now alive and well in his last academic stronghold, philosophy departments."


-atheists do not really exist, they just pretend that they don't believe in God.


-atheism brought upon the French Revolution, one of the most evil events of all of history.


-atheists make up a small percentage of the world population, therefore it is wrong.


-a lot of famous people said bad stuff about atheists

You sir, are the most retarded person I've ever seen. I AM in fact a Christian, but Evolution has been scientifically proven. While I don't agree with Atheism, Evolution and Atheism have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Hell, Evolution and Morals have nothing to do with each other. Listen, Evolution is a THEORY, T-H-E-O-R-Y. Which means it's a fact. Theory DOES NOT mean Hypothetical. Gravity is a theory, but does it exist? Yes, has it been proven to exist? Yes! Now, there is a LAW of Gravitation, but it simply explains WHY it happens, not that it DOES happen. If evolution doesn't exist, then what about all the remains of extinct species? Huh? Are you suggesting that all species were created at the same time? I can still believe in God and Evolution. For example, God DID direct and control the evolution of species, he guided them, and he formed the new species from the old ones, but Evolution does, in fact, exist. What about current Evolution? How about the increasing population of tuskless Elephants in Africa due to poaching? The poachers want the tusks, so they kill the Elephants and take the tusks. God made it so that a mutation which caused an elephant to be born without tusks existed. The poachers didn't kill them because they didn't have anything valuable to gain by killing them. SO, the population of elephants with no tusks is increasing. Even to this day, it's happening right as I speak. Eventually, a new species of elephants without tusks is going to branch off from the current ones, and it was all an act of God. So you sir, need to be educated on your principles of life and Darwin's theories.

(P.S. Not everything in the Bible is 100% literal. It's called a FUCKING METAPHOR!!)

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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You sir, are the most retarded person I've ever seen. I AM in fact a Christian, but Evolution has been scientifically proven. While I don't agree with Atheism, Evolution and Atheism have absolutely nothing to do with each other. Hell, Evolution and Morals have nothing to do with each other. Listen, Evolution is a THEORY, T-H-E-O-R-Y. Which means it's a fact. Theory DOES NOT mean Hypothetical. Gravity is a theory, but does it exist? Yes, has it been proven to exist? Yes! Now, there is a LAW of Gravitation, but it simply explains WHY it happens, not that it DOES happen. If evolution doesn't exist, then what about all the remains of extinct species? Huh? Are you suggesting that all species were created at the same time? I can still believe in God and Evolution. For example, God DID direct and control the evolution of species, he guided them, and he formed the new species from the old ones, but Evolution does, in fact, exist. What about current Evolution? How about the increasing population of tuskless Elephants in Africa due to poaching? The poachers want the tusks, so they kill the Elephants and take the tusks. God made it so that a mutation which caused an elephant to be born without tusks existed. The poachers didn't kill them because they didn't have anything valuable to gain by killing them. SO, the population of elephants with no tusks is increasing. Even to this day, it's happening right as I speak. Eventually, a new species of elephants without tusks is going to branch off from the current ones, and it was all an act of God. So you sir, need to be educated on your principles of life and Darwin's theories.

(P.S. Not everything in the Bible is 100% literal. It's called a piffleING METAPHOR!!)

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. We're right and you're wrong, according to Jesus and the Holy Word of God. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

If you want to debate people, THIS is the place to go.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

And if you're here to flame us, better take a look at THIS before making an even bigger ass out of yourself.

I will pray that the Holy Spirit enter you and chase the demons out of your rectum and let Jesus fill you with His Grace. If you use your God-given free will to reject Christ and His temporary death on the cross for my sins, then you are sending yourself to hellfire.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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You sir, are the most retarded person I've ever seen. I AM in fact a Christian, but Evolution has been scientifically proven.

Really? Show us the proof. Not evidence . . . proof.

While I don't agree with Atheism, Evolution and Atheism have absolutely nothing to do with each other.

So when evolutionism requires millions of years, and God's Word says the planet is only about 6,000 years old, you declare you do not believe God's Word. Yet you then call yourself a Christian.

From what source do you learn of Jesus? The Bible, God's Word, which you've already declared untrustworthy?

Listen, Evolution is a THEORY, T-H-E-O-R-Y. Which means it's a fact.

I suggest you learn the difference between a hypothesis, a theory, and a law.

I suggest you also learn something about the scientific method, since you clearly have no clue.

(P.S. Not everything in the Bible is 100% literal. It's called a piffleING METAPHOR!!)

Please tell me how you know which parts of God's Word are to be taken at face value, and which you can treat as so much toilet paper because it's just "a metaphor".